Chiefs v Crusaders
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<p>Too damn right he did!!! It was a thing of grace and ridiculousness</p>
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<p>the best thing about retallick making that break away was the look on sam whitelock's face. he noticed it pretty much first and was yelling 'get him' and pointing, while wearing a look that said 'oh fuck i'm never going to stop hearing about this'.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="593411" data-time="1467409222"><p>He wasn't awesome, but he wasn't why the Crusaders lost either. All in all, he's really come on this season - let's put it this way, we'd take him at the Blues</p></blockquote><br>I Admit I am making great generalisations from last nights performance and he has actually looked decent in other outings, however West is a better 1st 5 than<br>him by some distance all things considered and after watching his option taking last night, I concluded Banks the back up Landers 1st 5 is a better candidate.<br><br>I guess the three plays that dissapointed me the most were:<br><br>1) getting run over when attempting a tackle at one point<br>2) kicking for territory when the Saders had the ball only 40 metres out from the try line with 15 minutes left. Why not run it from there.<br>3) With the Saders hot on attack and ten metres out from try line he did a cross field up and under for Nadolo to score from. The kick<br>was terribly inaccurate and he would have been better served keeping ball in hand<br><br>But in his favour as people have pointed out he did do some good things<br><br>1) A line break from his own 22<br>2) Decent goal kicking<br>3) good touch finders.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="593417" data-time="1467411542">
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<p>Also ridiculous to sub taufua so early. Clearly out best player and tupou added fuck all.<br><br>
Alaalatoa for franks was also baffling. Need to find a better tighthead backup than useless fat sack of shot</p>
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<p>Yes I do wonder why Alaalotoa is there. Your scrum instantly goes from world class to mediocre with him there. I thought Mitch Hunt could have made an impact if he was given a go and probably should have been given a go with how badly Mo'unga was going.</p> -
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<p>I Admit I am making great generalisations from last nights performance and he has actually looked decent in other outings, however West is a better 1st 5 than<br>
him by some distance all things considered and after watching his option taking last night, I concluded Banks the back up Landers 1st 5 is a better candidate.</p>
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<p>Take off the black and white tinted glasses, Mounga's better than West. You're right that Banks is better than them both but who cares, he's off to Italy next season.</p>
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<p>Anyway, couldn't catch the game last night but I watched it this morning and that was fucking awesome. Hosting a game in Fiji is a nice change from the same old scenery we've seen for the last 20 odd years and it was great to see the locals get right into it. Hosting AB games in the island is a bit of a reach but I'd like to see more of this.</p>
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<p>As for the game itself, everyone seemed to write off the Chiefs pack but they were huge. It took a while but they've really turned things around in the last few months, so credit to the coaches and players, especially Yamashita, who got a lot of shit early on but is pretty fucking solid now. And in the backs, I thought McKenzie and Donald were awesome. Fingers crossed Beavers injury is just a niggle.</p>
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<p>One other thing is I think the Welsh game was a pretty big factor in the way that game played out. The Chiefs always seem to play like shit after the June test break but in this game they didn't and I think a lot of that is down to not having an entire month off without a single "real" game. Training sessions and practice games just aren't a replacement for a high intensity game.</p> -
<p>Sounds like the Crusaders got damned by the Beaver. Well he is only 32.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="593449" data-time="1467429984">
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<p><strong>Take off the black and white tinted glasses, Mounga's better than West. </strong>You're right that Banks is better than them both but who cares, he's off to Italy next season.</p>
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<p>Anyway, couldn't catch the game last night but I watched it this morning and that was fucking awesome. Hosting a game in Fiji is a nice change from the same old scenery we've seen for the last 20 odd years and it was great to see the locals get right into it. Hosting AB games in the island is a bit of a reach but I'd like to see more of this.</p>
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<p>As for the game itself, everyone seemed to write off the Chiefs pack but they were huge. It took a while but they've really turned things around in the last few months, so credit to the coaches and players, especially Yamashita, who got a lot of shit early on but is pretty fucking solid now. And in the backs, I thought McKenzie and Donald were awesome. Fingers crossed Beavers injury is just a niggle.</p>
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<p>One other thing is I think the Welsh game was a pretty big factor in the way that game played out. The Chiefs always seem to play like shit after the June test break but in this game they didn't and I think a lot of that is down to not having an entire month off without a single "real" game. Training sessions and practice games just aren't a replacement for a high intensity game.</p>
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<p>I don't think Hurricane is a Bay fan, I think you've muddled him up with Stargazer who is a Bay fan and an uber Crusaders fan pretending to not be ;). </p>
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<p>To really compare West and Mo'unga you'd need them to swap teams for the rest of the season. At any rate Mo'unga has had a good season so far, last night probably more reflective of the team as a whole than him personally.</p> -
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Yes I do wonder why Alaalotoa is there. Your scrum instantly goes from world class to mediocre with him there. I thought Mitch Hunt could have made an impact if he was given a go and probably should have been given a go with how badly Mo'unga was going.</p></blockquote>
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Mitch hunt deserved a chance.<br><br>
And after getting 0 minutes last night, he's forbidden from playing club rugby today and had to watch from the sideline <br><br>
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Mitch hunt deserved a chance.<br><br>
And after getting 0 minutes last night, he's forbidden from playing club rugby today and had to watch from the sideline <br><br>
Volavola was playing though, and is still shit</p></blockquote>
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I watched the same club game and Volavola was hopeless. Took the ball at half pace and just shoveled it on. Whoever recruited him for the Crusaders should be sacked. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hurricane" data-cid="593590" data-time="1467457715">
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<p>@Nepia or a long time fan (this isn't connected to this game but not sure where to post), who replaced Jones in the Sunday match in the '87 world cup?<br>
It was a trivia question tonight at the bar...</p>
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<p>Zinzan Brooke against Argentina, although Mark Brooke-Cowden was the back up 7 in the squad.</p> -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="593460" data-time="1467436487">
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<p>I don't think Hurricane is a Bay fan, I think you've muddled him up with Stargazer who is a Bay fan and an uber Crusaders fan pretending to not be ;). </p>
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<p>To really compare West and Mo'unga you'd need them to swap teams for the rest of the season. At any rate Mo'unga has had a good season so far, last night probably more reflective of the team as a whole than him personally.</p>
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<p>Not a mix up, I thought he was a HB fan.</p>
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<p>One thing I forgot to mention in my other post is that Rennie now has 9 wins over Toddy's Saders, to Toddy's 3 over Rennie's Chiefs.</p> -
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<p>One thing I forgot to mention in my other post is that Rennie now has 9 wins over Toddy's Saders, to Toddy's 3 over Rennie's Chiefs.</p>
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<p>That's quite an amazing stat, particularly because whenever I've compared the teams on paper, the Crusaders seems so much stronger with their AB forward pack.</p>
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<p>what is the Rennie v JJ stat?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="593680" data-time="1467499417">
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<p>what is the Rennie v JJ stat?</p>
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<p>Without knowing exactly I would say closer to 50:50. The Chiefs had a long run of wins over the Highlanders but now that has reversed in the last 2 seasons.</p> -
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<p>It was Brooke-Cowden v Wales.<br><br>
Zinny played 7 v Argies but that was a weekday game.</p>
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<p>Cheers for the correction Booboo - I can't actually remember Brooke-Cowden playing at the WC.</p> -
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<p>Without knowing exactly I would say closer to 50:50. The Chiefs had a long run of wins over the Highlanders but now that has reversed in the last 2 seasons.</p>
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<p>10 matches, 6-4 to Joseph. 3 wins last season definitely helped.</p>
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<p>Hopefully the Chiefs can start pegging that back in the final round.</p>
