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    @Dan54 The U20 replays are on Sky Sport, tonight. On now (Sky Sport 9), England v Scotland, followed by Italy v France at 9.05pm, and then Wales v Ireland at 11.00pm.

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    @Stargazer Yep mate were all on live this morning about 7,30-8. Sorry if I spoiled the viewing assumed everyone would of seen it.

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    So who else watched and enjoyed this morning's (NZ time) tests. I surely did very good rugby!

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    @Dan54 watched the replays. Both ended up surprisingly as I expected. VDM was on fire.

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    @ARHS Yep no real surprises on results, that Irish team is so bloody good, and Scotland I think while not going to win it will push for 3rd place (unless Ireland lose Sexton to injury, then 2nd spot maybe open). That's not saying they one man team by any means, but he certainly sets their game plan.

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    Youtube's 'Two Cents Rugby' has a front page headline article and a regular gig with Rugby Planet- good on him -

    "Two Cents Rugby picks five of the standout players of the round and it’s a healthy mix of forwards and backs.

    The YouTube star is joining us throughout the Championship and kicks off with his Round One selection."

    Two Cents Rugby  /  Feb 7, 2023  /  Six Nations

    Six Nations: Two Cents Rugby picks his top five players of Round One

    Six Nations: Two Cents Rugby picks his top five players of Round One

    With the first week of the Six Nations in the bag, Two Cents Rugby picks five of the best players of the round and it's a healthy mix of forwards and backs.

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    An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -

    Paul Tait  /  Jan 19, 2023

    Foreign-Born / Produced / Trained Players in 2023 Six Nations - Americas Rugby News

    Foreign-Born / Produced / Trained Players in 2023 Six Nations - Americas Rugby News

    The 2023 Six Nations sees changes in player eligibility to that from prior years. World Rugby’s eligibility law changes entitle eligible players to represent a second country following a three-year stand-down period from their last binding representative appearance for their first country. The...

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    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Six Nations 2023:

    An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -

    Paul Tait  /  Jan 19, 2023

    Foreign-Born / Produced / Trained Players in 2023 Six Nations - Americas Rugby News

    Foreign-Born / Produced / Trained Players in 2023 Six Nations - Americas Rugby News

    The 2023 Six Nations sees changes in player eligibility to that from prior years. World Rugby’s eligibility law changes entitle eligible players to represent a second country following a three-year stand-down period from their last binding representative appearance for their first country. The...

    Went straight to Wales

    Any list that contains Faletau as foreign is drivel

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    @MiketheSnow

    They only said foreign born which is correct. The salient point for most of these "born here, play there" guys is where they learned their rugby, where they were brought up in effect. Faletau is as Welsh as anyone on that basis.

    Looking at the Wales list you have four blatant poaches in Roberts, Francis, Tompkins and Cuthbert - all born there, played there and then jumped ship.

    However, you can keep Cuthbert 😁

    Edit: I see Scotland have 20, bloody 20 in that category including 14 that have played representative rugby elsewhere. Sheesh!

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    @MiketheSnow said in Six Nations 2023:

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Six Nations 2023:

    An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -

    Paul Tait  /  Jan 19, 2023

    Foreign-Born / Produced / Trained Players in 2023 Six Nations - Americas Rugby News

    Foreign-Born / Produced / Trained Players in 2023 Six Nations - Americas Rugby News

    The 2023 Six Nations sees changes in player eligibility to that from prior years. World Rugby’s eligibility law changes entitle eligible players to represent a second country following a three-year stand-down period from their last binding representative appearance for their first country. The...

    Went straight to Wales

    Any list that contains Faletau as foreign is drivel

    It does say both born AND produced then clearly shows what is what.

    Without looking closely at every "born and produced in one UK country but playing for another" to ascertain their exact story (it's not like there are hard borders) and therefore removing them and focussing on the born and produced in clearly other countries, then the numbers are more like

    Scotland - 8
    Ireland- 7
    Wales - 1
    Italy - 5
    England - 1
    France -2

    The only country that has clear signs of a poaching system to target players from other countries is Ireland IMO.
    Scotland also draw on "heritage" players, a lot

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    Personally I'm not a fan of the grandparent eligibility. It's not enough of a link in my opinion

    Scotland - 8
    Wales - 3
    Ireland - 2
    Italy -2
    England - 1
    France - 0

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    @Duluth said in Six Nations 2023:

    Personally I'm not a fan of the grandparent eligibility. It's not enough of a link in my opinion

    Scotland - 8
    Wales - 3
    Ireland - 2
    Italy -2
    England - 1
    France - 0

    Agree. We jokingly had this conversation with one of the kids the other day that there were options to play for three countries. Apart from knowing that grandparents came from overseas they have zero attachment to that country culturally, financially or physically.
    The various national laws around gaining citizenship then muddy the waters even further.

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    @Crucial I personally don't really agree with parent rule, I believe where you were born, or where you reside. Only you yourself should influence your eligibility!
    With Granparent rule there is a possibilty of eligibilty of 7 countries that you may not have ever been to! My kids nor I ever had the problem if we were good enough anyway as all parents and grandparents were kiwi born and raised, and I think in my case even my parents were in same boat! Kiwi as I,m afraid!

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    Does India have a grandfather rule? Maybe it's not too late to play international rugby...

    Doubt I'd make the cricket side

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    Some of the lads on Mrs Cato’s side of the family have played international rugby for Malta based on the grandparent rule.

    Also Mrs Cato has put in for a Maltese passport to enjoy the personal benefits of being a member of the EU.

    After voting leave in 2016… 🙄

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    The crazy thing about the grandparent eligibility is that in many cases those grandparents themselves emigrated as youngsters.
    There is also the way that the rules are pretty much one-way traffic dragging new world players back to 'old' countries.
    The craziness that is UK eligibility is a separate thing. Someone born in Berwick upon Tweed or Chester or the Wye Valley for example are virtually two country eligible from the start. Mum only had to pop over the river, over the road or off to a pub to find Dad and bang, there you go.

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    @Crucial

    Yep and if you’re born on one of the Channel Islands you are eligible for any of the four countries.

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    @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2023:

    @Crucial

    Yep and if you’re born on one of the Channel Islands you are eligible for any of the four countries.

    That's because it is unclear who is your parent and who is your grandparent.

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    @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2023:

    @Crucial

    Yep and if you’re born on one of the Channel Islands you are eligible for any of the four countries.

    I didn't know that. If your grandmother is born there, does that still count?

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