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Whilst I agree in theory, I feel you are underestimating the ability of British bureaucracy to fuck simple things up.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Whilst I agree in theory, I feel you are underestimating the ability of British bureaucracy to fuck simple things up.
They managed to get the vaccine sorted
Voting should be a piece of piss
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Emphasis on the word should...
On the subject of ID for voting, I can see no reason for it not to apply but also wonder if it is really necessary. We have ID checks and balances in place already, to one degree or another but more relevant is the question of whether we are trying to solve a problem that doesn't really exist. Is there widespread voter fraud? It hasn't to my knowledge been something that has been an issue.
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@Catogrande id checks, really? Last couple of times I've just rocked up to the church around the corner, said my name and they've crossed it off a bit of paper.
Foreigners eh.
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
Voting should be a piece of piss
The sensors on the UK urinals must be super sophisticated...
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Yeah, checked off against your voting eligibility slip, this is determined by the local authority in relation to your identification. Council Tax roll etc.
Sure, Bones is eligible to vote because of that, but I'm not sure how you're confirming the fat fuck standing in front of you is actually bones just because he says he's bones.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
It's far from watertight that's for sure and IF there was a real problem with voter fraud then it would absolutely need to be tightened up but the question remains - do we have a real problem with voter fraud?
I guess how do you know, if there's nothing other than a check that the name you said is on a list?
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Emphasis on the word should...
On the subject of ID for voting, I can see no reason for it not to apply but also wonder if it is really necessary. We have ID checks and balances in place already, to one degree or another but more relevant is the question of whether we are trying to solve a problem that doesn't really exist. Is there widespread voter fraud? It hasn't to my knowledge been something that has been an issue.
There is evidence that voter fraud is growing and was a factor in some close by-elections in the recent past, but how big a problem is it in reality?
Perhaps they think it's bigger than we all think but hard to detect?
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If voter fraud is a problem, it is a poorly reported one.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
If voter fraud is a problem, it is a poorly reported one.
Or as long as it doesn't affect the overall outcome, it isn't that big a thing or investigated that much? Been reports of organised harvesting of postal votes in the past from MPs of all parties and the closely-run 2019 Peterborough by-election was suspected of being very dodgy,
Not convinced it's a huge or big problem though - unless it is and they are keeping schtum.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
If voter fraud is a problem, it is a poorly reported one.
But that's it, how would you know?
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
If voter fraud is a problem, it is a poorly reported one.
But that's it, how would you know?
Oh we'd know
The loser(s) would be screaming blue murder
The left don't want this because there are more of their supporters than Tory supporters without the necessary ID info
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
@Bones said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
If voter fraud is a problem, it is a poorly reported one.
But that's it, how would you know?
The left don't want this because there are more of their supporters than Tory supporters without the necessary ID info
Why?
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
@Bones said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
If voter fraud is a problem, it is a poorly reported one.
But that's it, how would you know?
The left don't want this because there are more of their supporters than Tory supporters without the necessary ID info
Why?
Don't know, but that's what I read the first time this was being mooted
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@booboo said in British Politics:
Does it matters if it has not been a big problem to date? If it's a potential problem in the future put in the preventative measures now.
That's the only rationale I can think of. There's been a few cases of fraud but not enough to swing an election, but who knows? Ms M used to get two sets of voting papers when she was at Uni, but can't imagine that's a huge issue
Anyone complaining about mail in votes?
The votes themselves are now pretty secure these days and checked against databases so can't get two postal votes. Big problem I guess is heads of big families taking charge of filling in the ballot papers.
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
If voter fraud is a problem, it is a poorly reported one.
But that's it, how would you know?
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Fucken hell, if this is true it's probably the last straw for me with these fluffybunnies.
Why not dot the i's and cross the t's if you're going to be the PM? Are they just not bothering because they think if anything comes up they can brush it off?
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