How critical is the 10 Jersey to winning Super?
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@Canes4life said in How critical is the 10 Jersey to winning Super?:
The short answer is no. You can't win a title without an international quality ten, atleast that's what history suggests.
I look back at Hurricanes teams of the past, and David Holwell comes to mind as a guy who could have guided us to a title if he'd been 10 instead of Jimmy Gopperth, when we had one of our best teams. It had quality all over the park, our tight 5 was not the best in the comp but could hold their own
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@canefan said in How critical is the 10 Jersey to winning Super?:
@Canes4life said in How critical is the 10 Jersey to winning Super?:
The short answer is no. You can't win a title without an international quality ten, atleast that's what history suggests.
I look back at Hurricanes teams of the past, and David Holwell comes to mind as a guy who could have guided us to a title if he'd been 10 instead of Jimmy Gopperth, when we had one of our best teams. It had quality all over the park, our tight 5 was not the best in the comp but could hold their own
Not so sure. IIRC at a time when teams were thriving with 10s that were runners, Holwell was a deep pocket type.
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@Mr-Fish said in How critical is the 10 Jersey to winning Super?:
I'd say you could make a list of similar quality if you looked at Super Rugby winning hookers, or tight head props, or openside flankers.
I’d say YOU could if you wanted to properly make that point.
There could be very good players in all those positions and you’d not win if you have an average 10
See the Hurricanes as discussed above -
https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/remembering-the-crusaders-class-of-1998/
Not many test match greats in this team.
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@Chris-B said in How critical is the 10 Jersey to winning Super?:
https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/remembering-the-crusaders-class-of-1998/
Not many test match greats in this team.
A fair few test players in there though
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@canefan 8 I think - and mostly fringe guys - with Reubs, Razor and Gibson (and Toddy, I think) playing positions different to their best.
I think Crucial is largely right - Mehrts is the only one close to great, especially when you take into account the positional switches.
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@Chris-B said in How critical is the 10 Jersey to winning Super?:
@canefan 8 I think - and mostly fringe guys - with Reubs, Razor and Gibson (and Toddy, I think) playing positions different to their best.
I think Crucial is largely right - Mehrts is the only one close to great, especially when you take into account the positional switches.
Their 16th man in the match, Paddy O'Brien, had a pretty good test career.
