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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

    Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

    Aumua into XV as cover?

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    I mean maybe, but again he isn't a 12. Would be more likely to be TUJ or even a young guy like Higgins I'd have thought.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

    Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

    Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

    If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

    Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

    Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

    If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

    Good call r.e Nankivell... Heem would be an odd pick I think, because realistically this player won't play, so I think they'd be better off picking someone like Higgins.

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    @frugby Higgins has hardly played SR, this season. That would be an undeserved call-up.

    The ABx XV isn't a development team; they're the back-up team. Heem would be a good pick.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

    9 Smith
    10 Mo’unga
    12 Jordie
    13 Ioane
    11 Fainga’anuku
    14 Jordan
    15 DMac

    21 Roigard
    22 ALB
    23 Stevenson / Narawa

    So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

    9 Smith
    10 Mo’unga
    12 Jordie
    13 Ioane
    11 Fainga’anuku
    14 Jordan
    15 DMac

    21 Roigard
    22 Beaudie
    23 Narawa

    2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

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    @ACT-Crusader jeez those midfield options don't exactly have the reputation of putting people into space. It's been a problem for a few years now and my biggest concern with the backs leading into the world cup.

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    I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

    BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

    9 Smith
    10 Mo’unga
    12 Jordie
    13 Ioane
    11 Fainga’anuku
    14 Jordan
    15 DMac

    21 Roigard
    22 ALB
    23 Stevenson / Narawa

    So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

    9 Smith
    10 Mo’unga
    12 Jordie
    13 Ioane
    11 Fainga’anuku
    14 Jordan
    15 DMac

    21 Roigard
    22 Beaudie
    23 Narawa

    2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

    I think this is close. My feeling would be Beauden at 15, and Goodhue in 22 because they'll want specialist 2nd Five cover.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

    I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

    BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

    I think they'll all travel - what if one gets injured? In general, because there is such little time until the World Cup, I think almost everyone will travel, as they'll want to build together in the environment.

    Whitelock is the only one who I expect to stay at home.

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    Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

    Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

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    Foster said on selection night that they won't be separating the squads and all 36+ will go to Argentina and on to South Africa. He said with the condensed Rugby Championship he needs all the training time possible with all players.

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    @Wurzel OK. SA will be waiting in Auckland for the ABs to return home as they are splitting their squad apparently.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Wurzel OK. SA will be waiting in Auckland for the ABs to return home as they are splitting their squad apparently.

    I'm not sure if that is confirmed, that was hypothesised, as they have done it before

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    Man they talk some crap, another black jersey with highlights

    adidas and New Zealand Rugby unveil All Blacks Rugby World Cup 2023™ kit

    adidas and New Zealand Rugby unveil All Blacks Rugby World Cup 2023™ kit

    Today, adidas and New Zealand Rugby reveal the All Blacks Rugby World Cup 2023TM kit. Packed with leading technical innovations and built upon All Blacks’ insights and testing feedback, it is designed

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    @Machpants I'm liking the collar on that jersey, they should do this design at Super level.

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    https://www.adidas.co.nz/all-blacks-rugby-home-jersey/HZ9776.html

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Machpants I'm liking the collar on that jersey, they should do this design at Super level.

    Adidas don't have that contract next year, rumor says

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