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    As an off topic statement as long as we hold our discipline and play with passion we can compete with any of the sides. The one area I am not so sure about is the SA bomb squad scrum. That is some serious sh*t to deal with.

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    I would rather throw caution to the wind and roll the dice tbh.
    That means involvement of Blackadder, Roigard, DMac and LF.
    2019 was serious limp lettuce

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    @BerniesCorner Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls. Just a shame he was the only guy in NZ who would have dropped Ben Smith.

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    I'm very happy Roigard was selected.
    Very surprised they aren't testing out Blackadder here to see how he copes.
    Very sad they still play the 10/15 Mounga-BB combo as it only seems to work 1 out 20 games or so.
    I think it is a mostly good bench and I can see why they have ALB but I'd rather have Leicester.

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    @game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @BerniesCorner Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls. Just a shame he was the only guy in NZ who would have dropped Ben Smith.

    I don't think credit should be given for big stupid selection calls.

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    I have just twigged on Foster's genius, 3-4 years of incredibly predictable teams then once/if into the sudden death games: complete change in selections and tactics, brilliant! (Holds fingers in front of eyes).

    How for so?
    Hasn't he been criticised for not settling on a team?
    And now he's picked a first XXIII he's predictable?
    And that's somehow a complete change in selections?

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    @mariner4life not mutually exclusive

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @mariner4life not mutually exclusive

    100% but i'm just not willing to absolve the players of blame just because i think the coach isn't much chop

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    anyway, despite all that i think we beat Italy by 25-30 points.

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    @mariner4life although in 4 years where it seems we can't execute the plan he'd have altered it to one they could consistently...

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Bovidae yeah I said a few weeks ago I thought they had 'played' him out of form, such a shame as his (in form) style is certainly what we need v the likes of Ireland and SA.

    I not sure I have see ST look real good all year, I wonder if he either having 2nd/3rd year yips, or more likely he just doesn't scare big physical teams like the Boks etc. Just my kind of take lineout wonks and not real convinced on his scrumming, he will come right, but I don't have a problem with Colesy getting 20 minutes ahead of him, and think it's a coin toss almost.

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    @Dan54 guess the difference is CT got numerous chances to play back into form after an average super season, ST doesn't seem to have been afforded the same opportunity

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    @booboo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    I have just twigged on Foster's genius, 3-4 years of incredibly predictable teams then once/if into the sudden death games: complete change in selections and tactics, brilliant! (Holds fingers in front of eyes).

    How for so?
    Hasn't he been criticised for not settling on a team?
    And now he's picked a first XXIII he's predictable?
    And that's somehow a complete change in selections?

    a little bit of hope and a big dash of sarcasm

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    On Samisoni, I personally feel that he is just one of those players that needs to be playing rugby, getting small minutes off the bench isn't conducive to getting the best out of him, but by the same token, what do you do if his form in those limited minutes isn't upto expectation.

    It's pretty telling that Taylor was given every fucking chance in the world to get some semblance of form back. The same clearly doesn't apply to Taukieaho even though if he was to get his form back he's a better player. Taylor one of the ones to stand up for Foster in the ranks?

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    @game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls

    Like playing Scooter at 6 to dominate the English lineout in the semi?

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls

    Like playing Scooter at 6 to dominate the English lineout in the semi?

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    I saw an interview with Hansen recently,

    He said the biggest mistake he made in the preparation for that game was to create a happy positive vibe in camp through the week. He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.

    And in the end they lacked the fire in the belly they had the week before . Talked about it like it was his biggest regret in coaching and would love that time again .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls

    Like playing Scooter at 6 to dominate the English lineout in the semi?

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    I saw an interview with Hansen recently,

    He said the biggest mistake he made in the preparation for that game was to create a happy positive vibe in camp through the week. He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.

    And in the end they lacked the fire in the belly they had the week before . Talked about it like it was his biggest regret in coaching and would love that time again .

    Hopefully he'd recognise his other mistakes and rectify those too and he truly doesn't belief being happy was the main reason!

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    @Nepia yeah, when you select a lock at 6 in order to provide lineout height... probably a good idea to get the team to actually challenge the lineout.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.

    The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.

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    @Bones said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Nepia yeah, when you select a lock at 7 in order to provide lineout height... probably a good idea to get the team to actually challenge the lineout.

    Might want to ponder whether the slow moving distributor is the best guy for the wing too.

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