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    yeah i am watching it too, i reckon it's pretty great

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Documentaries:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Documentaries:

    They use the system to their advantage. Somehow we need to find the balance.

    Yep. And rehab & prevention isn't easy to do and sell.

    The issue is that rehabilitation only works when someone wants to be rehabilitated.

    And figuring out in a justice system who wants to and who doesn't is incredibly tricky...

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    Just watched this, definitely well worth it and pretty interesting to hear how it was all put together.

    Lionel Richie, Huey Lewis, Bruce Springsteen and Kenny Loggins come across as bloody nice and incredibly humble guys for the huge stars that they are.

    Prince sounds like a cock for not turning up ( still a fucken genius though )

    Cyndi Lauper has a voice like nails on a blackboard.

    So does Bob Dylan.

    What the fuck was Dan Aykroyd doing there ?

    Cracked me up how Waylon Jennings walked out the moment Stevie Wonder wanted to sing in Swahili.

    Even funnier when it was pointed out to Stevie that they don’t speak Swahili in Ethiopia.

    Sounds like an absolute logistical nightmare but hats off to Lionel for sorting it.

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  • NepiaN Online
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    @MN5 Yeah was good watch.

    I read somewhere Ackroyd was one of the organisers - plus he's a Blues Brother. 😉

    If Jennings had lived until this doco came out he might have been embarrassed, he essentially had a hissy fit and threw his toys when he could have just waited 5 minutes for it all to resolve with as you note the funny comment about how they don't speak Swahili in Ethiopia.

    I think the Dylan stuff was really good. I have a mate who defends his singing, even Dylan wouldn't defend his singing.

    I had no idea who Al Jarreau was and I guess he must have been big in the states back then as he's very prominent.

    Funny seeing Jackson still black.

    Is Ritchie's current alien face due to plastic surgery or just his face shape?

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    @Nepia said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 Yeah was good watch.

    I read somewhere Ackroyd was one of the organisers - plus he's a Blues Brother. 😉

    If Jennings had lived until this doco came out he might have been embarrassed, he essentially had a hissy fit and threw his toys when he could have just waited 5 minutes for it all to resolve with as you note the funny comment about how they don't speak Swahili in Ethiopia.

    I think the Dylan stuff was really good. I have a mate who defends his singing, even Dylan wouldn't defend his singing.

    I had no idea who Al Jarreau was and I guess he must have been big in the states back then as he's very prominent.

    Funny seeing Jackson still black.

    Is Ritchie's current alien face due to plastic surgery or just his face shape?

    Yeah I think Stevie Wonder was a bit too woke and it’s a good thing they didn’t indulge him. He almost ruins one of his own songs ( Don’t you worry bout a thing ) with incessant ramblings in Spanish for example.

    Al Jarreau did this, great song, smooth voice but not as big a star as others there…..

    As for Lionel I assume he’s had A LOT of work done.

    Further on the Prince no show…..definitely a case of him not being the biggest star on show (as well as Purple Rain had done MJ had sold more with Thriller ) and not being in complete control. Having read a book on him he had a habit of firing any blokes in his bands who threatened to steal the limelight from him, he never had an issue with women being front and centre at times though.

    But overall some absolutely terrific voices on display ( Richie, Wonder, Lewis, Nelson, Rogers, Springsteen and above all MJ ).

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    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Funny that Prince stood Lionel up. Great talent but a weird guy clearly. Sheila E seemed butthurt about not getting a solo. But she wasn't a patch on most of the stars in the room, even though I loved her big song that year. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

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    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    Shelia E was fucken incredible as one of Princes support acts, absolutely wicked drummer and a pretty cool singer but yeah, she’s not worthy of a line above others in that lineup.

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    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    It was the way it was framed, but perhaps Stevie was overcompensating for missing out on the original writing of the song. One thing that comes out is how much of a writing genius Lionel and Michael were, and Quincy and his partner were amazing when picking who would sing which parts based on their voice profiles. Huey Lewis was very big at that time, but I think he could count himself lucky to get a solo

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    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    It was the way it was framed, but perhaps Stevie was overcompensating for missing out on the original writing of the song. One thing that comes out is how much of a writing genius Lionel and Michael were, and Quincy and his partner were amazing when picking who would sing which parts based on their voice profiles. Huey Lewis was very big at that time, but I think he could count himself lucky to get a solo

    Yep, Lionel is the king of cheese but he did some absolute bangers in his time and you get the feeling he is a hell of a nice guy too.

    If a weirdo like MJ can turn up you’d have assumed Prince would too. Sigh,

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  • canefanC Online
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    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    It was the way it was framed, but perhaps Stevie was overcompensating for missing out on the original writing of the song. One thing that comes out is how much of a writing genius Lionel and Michael were, and Quincy and his partner were amazing when picking who would sing which parts based on their voice profiles. Huey Lewis was very big at that time, but I think he could count himself lucky to get a solo

    Yep, Lionel is the king of cheese but he did some absolute bangers in his time and you get the feeling he is a hell of a nice guy too.

    If a weirdo like MJ can turn up you’d have assumed Prince would too. Sigh,

    Stevie went dark for weeks and wondered why they didn't call him to write the song. Lots of divas there

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    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    It was the way it was framed, but perhaps Stevie was overcompensating for missing out on the original writing of the song. One thing that comes out is how much of a writing genius Lionel and Michael were, and Quincy and his partner were amazing when picking who would sing which parts based on their voice profiles. Huey Lewis was very big at that time, but I think he could count himself lucky to get a solo

    Yep, Lionel is the king of cheese but he did some absolute bangers in his time and you get the feeling he is a hell of a nice guy too.

    If a weirdo like MJ can turn up you’d have assumed Prince would too. Sigh,

    Stevie went dark for weeks and wondered why they didn't call him to write the song. Lots of divas there

    He was in the dark about a lot of stuff. Ray Charles was too.

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  • canefanC Online
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    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    It was the way it was framed, but perhaps Stevie was overcompensating for missing out on the original writing of the song. One thing that comes out is how much of a writing genius Lionel and Michael were, and Quincy and his partner were amazing when picking who would sing which parts based on their voice profiles. Huey Lewis was very big at that time, but I think he could count himself lucky to get a solo

    Yep, Lionel is the king of cheese but he did some absolute bangers in his time and you get the feeling he is a hell of a nice guy too.

    If a weirdo like MJ can turn up you’d have assumed Prince would too. Sigh,

    Stevie went dark for weeks and wondered why they didn't call him to write the song. Lots of divas there

    He was in the dark about a lot of stuff. Ray Charles was too.

    That's low hanging fruit right there

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    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    It was the way it was framed, but perhaps Stevie was overcompensating for missing out on the original writing of the song. One thing that comes out is how much of a writing genius Lionel and Michael were, and Quincy and his partner were amazing when picking who would sing which parts based on their voice profiles. Huey Lewis was very big at that time, but I think he could count himself lucky to get a solo

    Yep, Lionel is the king of cheese but he did some absolute bangers in his time and you get the feeling he is a hell of a nice guy too.

    If a weirdo like MJ can turn up you’d have assumed Prince would too. Sigh,

    Stevie went dark for weeks and wondered why they didn't call him to write the song. Lots of divas there

    He was in the dark about a lot of stuff. Ray Charles was too.

    That's low hanging fruit right there

    Low hanging fruit suits someone as lowbrow as me

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    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    @canefan said in Documentaries:

    Stevie was woke before there was woke! Great show. Someone needs to make a new doco on Do they know it's Xmas? now.

    Yeah, and Waylon Jennings was refreshingly un PC.

    a good ol boy like that ain’t got time for singing in African !

    Stevie is a musical genius ( I don’t use that term lightly ) but I gotta agree with the Dukes of Hazzard singer in this case.

    It was the way it was framed, but perhaps Stevie was overcompensating for missing out on the original writing of the song. One thing that comes out is how much of a writing genius Lionel and Michael were, and Quincy and his partner were amazing when picking who would sing which parts based on their voice profiles. Huey Lewis was very big at that time, but I think he could count himself lucky to get a solo

    Yep, Lionel is the king of cheese but he did some absolute bangers in his time and you get the feeling he is a hell of a nice guy too.

    If a weirdo like MJ can turn up you’d have assumed Prince would too. Sigh,

    Stevie went dark for weeks and wondered why they didn't call him to write the song. Lots of divas there

    He was in the dark about a lot of stuff. Ray Charles was too.

    That's low hanging fruit right there

    Low hanging fruit suits someone as lowbrow as me

    I did laugh 😂

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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
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    #284

    Lover, Stalker, Killer

    Almost too fucked up to be believable.

    Be careful who you hook up with online is all I can say.

    Well made doco.

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    @MN5 said in Documentaries:

    Lover, Stalker, Killer

    Almost too fucked up to be believable.

    Be careful who you hook up with online is all I can say.

    Well made doco.

    Trust only 100% pure polish chicks

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    I've only watched Part 1, but a must-see for any fans of The Sopranos. It's interesting to see who auditioned for the main roles.

    Wise Guy: David Chase and the Sopranos (TV Series 2024) ⭐ 8.2 | Documentary, Biography

    Wise Guy: David Chase and the Sopranos (TV Series 2024) ⭐ 8.2 | Documentary, Biography

    2h 40m | TV-MA

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    @Bovidae Watching the first ep now. The auditions are indeed really interesting.

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  • NepiaN Online
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    @Bovidae said in Documentaries:

    I've only watched Part 1, but a must-see for any fans of The Sopranos. It's interesting to see who auditioned for the main roles.

    Wise Guy: David Chase and the Sopranos (TV Series 2024) ⭐ 8.2 | Documentary, Biography

    Wise Guy: David Chase and the Sopranos (TV Series 2024) ⭐ 8.2 | Documentary, Biography

    2h 40m | TV-MA

    Ah crap, this is on Binge/Foxtel in Oz so I can't watch it.

    Might have to find a copy ...

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    Much to discuss about this one.

    A youtube documentary "Britain v Argentina: Falklands War - Full Animated Documentary, by an outfit (channel?) called Historigraph.

    Firstly am not sure how many Ferners are my age, but I was 13 when Argies invaded the Falklands. So it was vividly imprinted on my memory, nightly news reports etc.

    Then the Documentary series "Task Force South" that came out a few months later was compulsory viewing.

    So found this fascinating, both refreshing my memory, and filling in gaps.

    Secondly, I've never thought of YouTube as a "TV" ("TB") option. Not even sure how I got on to it. Perhaps something flicked up on the Chromecast after quitting out of Stan ...

    Let's face it, this new fangled interwebs wasn't around when Argentina was invading the Falklands when I was 13 in 1982 ...

    Anyway, loved the animation of the positioning of the warships, telling the story as the Task Force moved south, and the attacks by the Argie air force (particularly the attack on the Sheffield). (Didn't love the resultant casualties, but fascinated by the stories told.)

    But it wasn't just putting the ships and planes in positional context, it was the names and reactions of the actual combatants, pilots, commanders, officers etc and their reactions and comments.

    Provided some background to the political framework of the time too.

    Crazy to think just 40 years ago Argentina, who we'd think of as an ally and a staunch member of whatever we'd consider is some sort of western alliance, was ruled by dictators like Galtieri and the rest of his Junta. (FYI, have coincidentally just finished a podcast series by Real Dictators, on General Videla, a predecessor of Galtieri, and one of the fluffiest of bunnies amongst South America's long list of furry rabbits. He was nasty. Hard to believe in modern times these people existed. )

    The success probably kept Maggie T in power too.

    Some wild stats and facts, like the attack on the Sheffield used 40% (well 2 of 5) of the entire Arg stock of Exocets. Like, that was all they had.

    So many bombs hit British ships, but didn't explode.

    Quite old school militarily: No smart bombs for example.

    Amazing to think this was only 40 years ago.

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