Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc
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@Duluth a bigger version of hagley park, proper sized pitch with some grass for families on test days and a larger pavilion type stand no more than half the rest of the ground
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@Duluth said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
but I think we'll just wind up with Eden Park doing what it does and being sub-par for both rugby and cricket
Move cricket somewhere else. Build a new North stand closer to the pitch.
That's a good idea. If we have to have Eden Park, which I suspect and has been reported last week that that is what the Council will decide to do.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Duluth a bigger version of hagley park, proper sized pitch with some grass for families on test days and a larger pavilion type stand no more than half the rest of the ground
Victoria Park was suggested by a fan group a decade ago but I think Auckland cricket opposed it or something
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@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Duluth a bigger version of hagley park, proper sized pitch with some grass for families on test days and a larger pavilion type stand no more than half the rest of the ground
Victoria Park was suggested by a fan group a decade ago but I think Auckland cricket opposed it or something
There is nowhere in Auckland that doesn't have opposition.
Eden Park no 1 - too big
No 2 - ground too small, facilities don't meet test cricket, adjacent to a street
Colin Maiden - too far away
Anywhere on the north shore - isn't that a beach? Where is it? I needed Google
Western Springs - too expensive, floods
Vic Park - heavily contaminated, floods, too near motorways, I dunno, can't use it enough for domestic cricket? Existing usage maybe?I love the Vic Park concept for many reasons - but honestly as long as people make a sensible decision we should just do something. You do not need a full size stadium. Hagley should be the exemplar - simple, limited facilities and sized well for test matches.
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@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Duluth a bigger version of hagley park, proper sized pitch with some grass for families on test days and a larger pavilion type stand no more than half the rest of the ground
Victoria Park was suggested by a fan group a decade ago but I think Auckland cricket opposed it or something
There is nowhere in Auckland that doesn't have opposition.
Eden Park no 1 - too big
No 2 - ground too small, facilities don't meet test cricket, adjacent to a street
Colin Maiden - too far away
Anywhere on the north shore - isn't that a beach? Where is it? I needed Google
Western Springs - too expensive, floods
Vic Park - heavily contaminated, floods, too near motorways, I dunno, can't use it enough for domestic cricket? Existing usage maybe?I love the Vic Park concept for many reasons - but honestly as long as people make a sensible decision we should just do something. You do not need a full size stadium. Hagley should be the exemplar - simple, limited facilities and sized well for test matches.
It's just a shit show. Someone needed to front up and make the decision prior to RWC11 when they had the chance
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@canefan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
It's just a shit show. Someone needed to front up and make the decision prior to RWC11 when they had the chance
Remember when we got offered a taxpayer funded stadium on the waterfront for free....????
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@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
It's just a shit show. Someone needed to front up and make the decision prior to RWC11 when they had the chance
Remember when we got offered a taxpayer funded stadium on the waterfront for free....????
Auckland is riddled with self interest. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth and saying no thanks
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@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan friendly reminder it was Mike Lee who didn't want to lose Ports land on behalf of the ARC.
Yes. Mike Lee (chair of the then ARC) - who was promoting the then ARC-owned Mt Smart as the answer to Auckland's stadium issues.
The mayor of Auckland (Sanitarium guy, I forgot his name) and the Auckland City Council actually voted yes to the stadium.
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@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan friendly reminder it was Mike Lee who didn't want to lose Ports land on behalf of the ARC.
Yes. Mike Lee (chair of the then ARC) - who was promoting the then ARC-owned Mt Smart as the answer to Auckland's stadium issues.
The mayor of Auckland (Sanitarium guy, I forgot his name) and the Auckland City Council actually voted yes to the stadium.
and this
In a 5-hour meeting on the night of 23 November, the Auckland City Council gave support to the waterfront proposal by a 13–7 vote. However they qualified their assent by wanting the stadium to be "substantially east" of the Marsden Wharf/Captain Cook location preferred by the government, cutting more deeply into port lands, but also keeping views from Britomart unobstructed.[10]
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I wasn't a fan of the proposed 2011 stadium and think the Council's caveat was justified.
There's a reason images of stadia are always of a match night, during the day they're all monolithic 13 story high visual barriers. Not at all pleasing to the eye - and they are the good ones. I shudder to think what Auckland would have got.
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@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan friendly reminder it was Mike Lee who didn't want to lose Ports land on behalf of the ARC.
Yes. Mike Lee (chair of the then ARC) - who was promoting the then ARC-owned Mt Smart as the answer to Auckland's stadium issues.
The mayor of Auckland (Sanitarium guy, I forgot his name) and the Auckland City Council actually voted yes to the stadium.
Phil Goff?
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Democracy has it's limitations and it seems stadiums in NZ is one of them.
IF something dramatic is to be done, then a decision needs to be done, it needs to be stuck by & charged head on through the bullshit that accompanies it.
But we all know it won't happen. Expect another 200mill thrown at Eden Park for something that looks like a dogs breakfast. Ethyl will be happy though.
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@MajorRage said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
Democracy has it's limitations and it seems stadiums in NZ is one of them.
IF something dramatic is to be done, then a decision needs to be done, it needs to be stuck by & charged head on through the bullshit that accompanies it.
But we all know it won't happen. Expect another 200mill thrown at Eden Park for something that looks like a dogs breakfast. Ethyl will be happy though.
The council at the time pushed the Caketin through. Courage and determination is required
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@MajorRage Auckland is a mess. Typically Kiwi that we have no cohesive plan for the city's sports grounds. We have a bunch of middling venues that serve similar purpose, but we don't have an international class cricket or rugby code ground
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I've whined about this for years ... cricket & rugby should never be played in the same stadium, they are completely different sports with different sized fields. Rugby field is aournd 70 metres wide. A proper sized cricket is about double that.
Although I'm very pro the waterfront / downtown idea, I get that the logistics and cost make that a tough sell. But at least commit to making Eden Park a rugby only ground ....
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@MajorRage said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
But at least commit to making Eden Park a rugby only ground ....
...half owned by Auckland Cricket. who have been propped up for years by the income from Rugby. Can't see it.
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