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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @Canes4life

    A little dramatic. No one has been replaced.

    As for injuries, we had 4 genuine options to play 10 in the squad. Two are injured and one is returning from injury this week. Last week we had Evans covering ten.. he would be our 5th choice ten

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    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

    @Duluth man if I was a player at the Blues and played all year and then was all of sudden replaced by Beauden, that would stink. I’d look to move franchise.

    I would get it if they had a massive injury crisis, but they don’t. Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

    Admit you're still sore he moved North...

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    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

    Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

    I don't agree with your comment here

    Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

    I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

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    @antipodean not at all, I was at the time obviously but Beaudy is a little over-hyped these days. The media make it sound like he’s in the prime of his career, he’s isn’t, which is why he reverts to kicking the ball away all the time because he doesn’t have the speed to get him out of trouble like he used to.

    I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him. I think it would just be a big middle finger to the rest of the teams in the comp.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

    Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

    I don't agree with your comment here

    Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

    I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

    I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.

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    Cane is training with the Chiefs, so...

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    @Bovidae are they looking to play him at all or..?

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    #739

    When Will Jordan was out for the season he was replaced by Welsh international Fullback Johnny McNichol. Zarn Sullivan is out for the season so why should Barrett not be able to replace him. What is the difference other than the Calendar? Are we saying that the Blues should be penalized by playing out the season with a depleted squad? Maybe if the Blues were in our usual 11th place no one would care if Barrett was in the squad or not.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Daffy Jaffy on last edited by taniwharugby
    #740

    @Daffy-Jaffy I think season ending injuries are full replacement rather than a short term one if someone is due back, even if late in the season.

    I dont think him playing any games should be relevant, he is still contracted to NZR isnt he?

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    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

    Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

    I don't agree with your comment here

    Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

    I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

    I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.

    Thanks. I tend to agree.

    I think it's moot anyway as was mentioned earlier the chances of approval for playoffs are extremely thin.

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    #742

    I thought if you had multiple injuries that was part of the purpose of the wider training group? Shouldn’t the blues be promoting from there before putting Beauden straight back into the full squad? He was the one who went to Japan at the end day.

    When James Lowe got injured at the Highlanders they promoted Hurley from the wider training squad. That’s how it should be handled. If the blues wider training squad players are injured then I can understand the choice.

    If he’s cleared to play and also play finals it would just open a huge can of worms that could be easily avoided if it was made clear you promote from your wider squad…

    I’m sure we all feel different about it but that’s just my opinion anyway. As you were…

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    @Canes4life

    And the 32-year-old openside flanker confirmed as soon as he returned from Japan, where he played the 2024 season on sabbatical, he would be training with the Chiefs as “a practice body” over the latter stages of their Super Rugby Pacific campaign to get himself back up to full fitness.

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    @Bovidae I’ve got no issue with that. Playing in the playoffs would be a different story which the Blues are trying to do with Beaudy.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #745

    @Bovidae said in Blues 2024:

    Cane is training with the Chiefs, so...

    If there was a season ending injury to a Chiefs loosie I would like to see Cane added to their squad. It would be strange if they had to call in someone else

    I wonder what the intent of the regulation was? I doubt they were thinking about sabbatical players when it was written

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  • ToddyT Online
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    I'd rather see the big names in the competition. Sucks for the others in the squad but I'd rather watch BB, Cane etc. than some wider squad player.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

    @Bovidae said in Blues 2024:

    Cane is training with the Chiefs, so...

    If there was a season ending injury to a Chiefs loosie I would like to see Cane added to their squad. It would be strange if they had to call in someone else

    I wonder what the intent of the regulation was? I doubt they were thinking about sabbatical players when it was written

    Personally, I think players on sabbatical should be included in the squad and available on return.

    or

    Not available under any circumstance.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #748

    @gt12 said in Blues 2024:

    Personally, I think players on sabbatical should be included in the squad and available on return.

    A squad with one man less would punish teams with a sabbatical player. But only marginally, it would just mean you go to players outside your squad a bit quicker

    Or perhaps you could do what the Crusaders did and carry an extra player until Taylor returned (I have no issue with the Taylor situation, it's just an example of the leeway given to sabbatical players)

    @gt12 said in Blues 2024:

    Not available under any circumstance.

    Lets say the Chiefs lost a couple of loosies for the rest of the season this weekend. Cane has been under NZR contract all year, is training with the Chiefs and is available for All Black selection. I don't see the logic of preventing him joining as an injury replacement? I see some logic in preventing 'ring-ins' late in the season but I don't see how Cane could be considered that. I don't see how that is good for NZ rugby or the competition

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  • gt12G Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth

    That’s why I’d like a clear rule either way.

    I’d prefer he and others be eligible.

    The current situation is half-pregnant, they should make it yes or no.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
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    @gt12 said in Blues 2024:

    I’d prefer he and others be eligible.

    Same

    Going back to the Taylor situation.. yes it’s slightly different because it was a non playing sabbatical. However expectations were set at the beginning. Everyone knew one player was on a temp contract, and everyone knew he’d return late in the competition so no one cared

    That seems like the correct method in future.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth

    That sounds far too logical for NZRU though

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