All Blacks 2024
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
Cheslin Kolbe dominates Rugby Championship stat while several All Blacks lead the way despite Springboks' triumph
With the dust having settled on this year’s edition, we take a closer look at all the stats leaders from the various facets of the game.
Mostly ABs topping the stats
Not too surprising given South Africa rotated their players significantly.
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Good points and a pragmatic idea to play the Blues style near the end of the game. I've called for this too. It means we dominate possession the last quarter instead of defend.
The team yellows haven't helped in the last quarter but I think that comes down to fatigue leaving too many guys on - not making changes.
Maybe the bench with the bigger guys in the last test is an indication they're open to changing the style for the last quarter?
The Pumas test in Eden Park was our best test this year and in the rain we played a much more direct Blues style game which proves we have the ability to play that style.
It's no coincidence that William's and Darry started in that test. Two guys in the tight forwards that get across the advantage line.
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@brodean fatigue definitely a factor in some of the yellows.
Sititi by himself has made a significant difference to our ball carrying. I'm not so sure about Darry as a runner, but as previous I think changing the prop combinations so we have one of Williams and Tosi on at all times has immediate merit. Swapping Cane out for someone who can make a few effective carries is an obvious one, then next port of call for me would be more minutes for Aumua. That plus getting to a 6-2 split and generally bringing the bench on earlier I think would make a big difference. -
Darry made some good hard metres for the Blues and was surprisingly good at muscling over for the try
6 - 2 bench is a good thing to look at for some teams. Who are you thinking for the utility back?
South Africa have a loose forward who can cover midfield and a halfback who can cover wing.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2024:
Darry made some good hard metres for the Blues and was surprisingly good at muscling over for the try
6 - 2 bench is a good thing to look at for some teams. Who are you thinking for the utility back?
South Africa have a loose forward who can cover midfield and a halfback who can cover wing.
I guess I just don't see Darry as adding more than Vaai or Barrett overall at this stage, or Pat on the bench - and think there's other more substantial gains to be made in the pack's ball running elsewhere first.
The utility back obviously depends a lot on the starting lineup e.g. put Rieko on the wing and you could get away without midfield cover and use a 10/15 utility on the bench. Otherwise you probably have to start a fullback or 12 who can cover 10, and put a midfielder ALB/JB on the bench.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 All those games counted.
He got dished a pretty bogus yellow card after 90 seconds, which probably hampered him a bit.
Cane got a red card and made 8 times the amount of tackles as your Tongan boy.
Being shit hampered him a bit.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I'd be surprised if Tosi would have played if Newell was fit. It could be another example where injury solved a problem.
With benefit of hindsight it seems odd that Tosi didn’t Chuck on a jersey when Newell calf went in warm up to Boks 2.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 All those games counted.
He got dished a pretty bogus yellow card after 90 seconds, which probably hampered him a bit.
Cane got a red card and made 8 times the amount of tackles as your Tongan boy.
Being shit hampered him a bit.
Would have been fucking good if Sam had made one less!
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I'd be surprised if Tosi would have played if Newell was fit. It could be another example where injury solved a problem.
With benefit of hindsight it seems odd that Tosi didn’t Chuck on a jersey when Newell calf went in warm up to Boks 2.
I think they still feel Tosi is a work in progress - because he is. His scrummaging remains a big concern.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I'd be surprised if Tosi would have played if Newell was fit. It could be another example where injury solved a problem.
With benefit of hindsight it seems odd that Tosi didn’t Chuck on a jersey when Newell calf went in warm up to Boks 2.
I think they still feel Tosi is a work in progress - because he is. His scrummaging remains a big concern.
Yes, in particular against Boks. But Fletch was scrummaging on one leg and Lomax had steam coming out of his head gasket.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 All those games counted.
He got dished a pretty bogus yellow card after 90 seconds, which probably hampered him a bit.
Cane got a red card and made 8 times the amount of tackles as your Tongan boy.
Being shit hampered him a bit.
Would have been fucking good if Sam had made one less!
If your boy had made one more then maybe he would have.
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ABs released to play NPC this round.
Friday 4 October
Northland v Otago – Semenoff Stadium, Whangarei, 7.05pm
Otago: George BowerSaturday 5 October
Manawatū v Counties Manukau – Massey University, 2.05pm
Counties Manukau: Dalton Papali’i, Cam RoigardSouthland v North Harbour – Invercargill Rugby Park, 4.35pm
Southland: Ethan de Groot
North Harbour: Mark Tele’aWellington v Hawkes Bay – Sky Stadium, Wellington, 4.35pm
Wellington: Billy ProctorCanterbury v Waikato – Apollo Projects Stadium, 7.05pm
Canterbury: George Bell, Sam Darry
Waikato: Samipeni FinauSunday 6 October
Ta$man v Taranaki – Trafalgar Park, Nelson, 2.05pm
Ta$man: Ethan Blackadder, Noah Hotham and David Havili
Taranaki: Stephen PerofetaAuckland v Bay of Plenty – Auckland Grammar School, 4.35pm
Auckland: Harry Plummer, Patrick Tuipulotu
Bay of Plenty: Pasilio Tosi -
NZ sports journalists - yikes!!!!
"The popular consensus is that in the second Bledisloe Cup test Beauden Barrett played his way into the jersey with a cool display that gave the All Blacks a sense of calm and a more stable springboard."
Paul Lewis: The ruthless selections Robertson must make for northern tour
OPINION: The All Blacks can't pick on sentiment as they prepare for the future.
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on thing that has epitomized the Robertson regime so far is ruthlessness at the selection table
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Do I really not know what I'm watching or are journalists all adopting the walrus approach?
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@antipodean ive felt for a long time that there is a big difference between what i enjoy and like watching, when i think a player is playing well....and what lots of other people do
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
