Movie review thread...
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@Kiwiwomble Yeah he does get a bit ranty, but I do get pissed off with changing shit in an attempt to be more 'progressive' rather than good story reasons
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@Machpants and fair enough as ruining anything as good as LotR is a crime, i guess im a bit lucky as these things only bug me if they actually detract from the story rather than needing a good reason to change and i dont feel most of the diversity casting does that (for me, might do for others)...and definitely not compared to the actually story issues or how different characters are from the movies....maybe we'll see them change into the characters we know over the course of the series...but i doubt it
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
@Nepia i saw some of the first reviews and things like rotten tomatoes and wondered if it was just being review bombed for someone reason
one thing i didn;t like about the review..they talk about how much it borrowed from other films....but then listed 7-8 very different films...i feel if you're going to look at that many films then of course you'll things
i know it started as a "star wars" proposal but its ended up as an "original" film rather than a sequel/prequel/reboot etc....and sad it might not be what we wanted
All the negative early reviews were from the critics not Nepias mates, which probably means it's a good film. Seems most critics had an axe to grind with Snyder. Not sure why. Ultimately his films look great but he can't write for shīt.
Think you answered your own question there.
The podcast I was listening to is mostly pro Snyder (Empire Magazine podcast) so no axe to grind from them.
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@Catogrande said in Movie review thread...:
I really struggle watching Marky Mark. He’s a miserable, sour faced fluffybunny, even when he’s doing comedy.
His brother is a much better actor.
Sounds like someone needs to watch The Other Guys again. Marky Mark was hilarious in that
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@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
@Machpants and fair enough as ruining anything as good as LotR is a crime, i guess im a bit lucky as these things only bug me if they actually detract from the story rather than needing a good reason to change and i dont feel most of the diversity casting does that (for me, might do for others)...and definitely not compared to the actually story issues or how different characters are from the movies....maybe we'll see them change into the characters we know over the course of the series...but i doubt it
Well I have read The History of Middle Earth, Silmarillion, etc so I get nerd-rage. But it was also an average as fcuk story with the black survival of the fittest hobbits, and whiny war goddess galadriel and then the rings just got made. Meh.
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@Machpants said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
@Machpants and fair enough as ruining anything as good as LotR is a crime, i guess im a bit lucky as these things only bug me if they actually detract from the story rather than needing a good reason to change and i dont feel most of the diversity casting does that (for me, might do for others)...and definitely not compared to the actually story issues or how different characters are from the movies....maybe we'll see them change into the characters we know over the course of the series...but i doubt it
Well I have read The History of Middle Earth, Silmarillion, etc so I get nerd-rage. But it was also an average as fcuk story with the black survival of the fittest hobbits, and whiny war goddess galadriel and then the rings just got made. Meh.
so have i and had a decent presence on a Tolkien/LotR forum back in the day....so i also challenge this guys comment about they were weren't complaints at the time, lots of fans had issues with different parts....they just generally accepted every decision jackson made was probably for the best in the end
I think if i want to see the true form....i re read the books
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@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
@Machpants said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
@Machpants and fair enough as ruining anything as good as LotR is a crime, i guess im a bit lucky as these things only bug me if they actually detract from the story rather than needing a good reason to change and i dont feel most of the diversity casting does that (for me, might do for others)...and definitely not compared to the actually story issues or how different characters are from the movies....maybe we'll see them change into the characters we know over the course of the series...but i doubt it
Well I have read The History of Middle Earth, Silmarillion, etc so I get nerd-rage. But it was also an average as fcuk story with the black survival of the fittest hobbits, and whiny war goddess galadriel and then the rings just got made. Meh.
so have i and had a decent presence on a Tolkien/LotR forum back in the day....so i also challenge this guys comment about they were weren't complaints at the time, lots of fans had issues with different parts....they just generally accepted every decision jackson made was probably for the best in the end
Totally, there is a ton of bullshit that the right wing/anti woke brigade made up. But it was still a shit series, and it made me sad. At least I went in with low expectations and they were met. As to LotR part of the awesomeness of it was that this was nerdiness coming mainstream!
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@Machpants i havent finished it yet (cant get Mrs womble to re watch the OG's let alone the series)....expectations were SUPER low...so if anything its slightly...every so slightly better than i expected
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Probably not as bad as this haha
The guy who sued Amazon for infringing on his Lord of the Rings fanfic takes a massive L, now owes $134,000 to the Tolkien Estate
Author Demetrious Polychron wanted $250 million for infringement of his book The Fellowship of the King.
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@Machpants said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
@Machpants and fair enough as ruining anything as good as LotR is a crime, i guess im a bit lucky as these things only bug me if they actually detract from the story rather than needing a good reason to change and i dont feel most of the diversity casting does that (for me, might do for others)...and definitely not compared to the actually story issues or how different characters are from the movies....maybe we'll see them change into the characters we know over the course of the series...but i doubt it
Well I have read The History of Middle Earth, Silmarillion, etc so I get nerd-rage. But it was also an average as fcuk story with the black survival of the fittest hobbits, and whiny war goddess galadriel and then the rings just got made. Meh.
How Christopher Lee Fell Out (And Made Up) With Peter Jackson
Their friendship was jeopardised when Jackson cut him from the final movie in the 'Lord of the Rings’ series.
Ridiculous move from Jackson
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
Ridiculous move from Jackson
Putting him in the Hobbit movies? Yep.
More referring to them cutting him out of LOTR so there was more time for hobbits bouncing on beds together.
Totally gay.
Of course I’m a bit more worldly and well rounded than I was 20 years ago. Much more accepting and liberal.
But it’s still totally gay.
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Cutting him from Return of the King made, and makes, total sense.
But yeah - the hobbit pillow-fights could have been cut.
I watched the entire Director's Cut trilogy a little while back - and found new appreciation for editors.
I can't remember how much of the gaiety was in the originals... probably need to go back and watch the cinema-cut at some point.
That article suggests that the Saruman's speech/death was never included at all? THAT is whack... it should have been included at the end of Two Towers as a full-stop on that villain, with ReturnOfTheKing then focused on Sauron, as PeteyJ said. -
Anyway - I only came here to find inspiration for a light-hearted numb-the-brain Thursday-night ~90-minute movie inspiration.
Not to debate movies based on fucking nerd books. <Note-to-self: do NOT mention how many times child-Kruse read LOTR... it's embarrassing, NOT impressive> Fucking nerds.
Anyway - I've managed to scroll back a full 20 posts - and I guess it's whichever of Family Plan or Fast Charlie the raging rivers happen to deliver first.
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
Cutting him from Return of the King made, and makes, total sense.
But yeah - the hobbit pillow-fights could have been cut.
I watched the entire Director's Cut trilogy a little while back - and found new appreciation for editors.
I can't remember how much of the gaiety was in the originals... probably need to go back and watch the cinema-cut at some point.
That article suggests that the Saruman's speech/death was never included at all? THAT is whack... it should have been included at the end of Two Towers as a full-stop on that villain, with ReturnOfTheKing then focused on Sauron, as PeteyJ said.How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Woulda been intriguing if they ever made a sequel to this…..
….and interesting to contrast it to this….
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@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Simplicity for movies...
Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Simplicity for movies...
Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
Like the cutting of Tom whatever-his-name-was.Audiences couldn’t handle the fact there could be another baddie who was in cahoots with the main one ?
I liked how Saruman met his end in the book, it would have worked on screen and was annoyed at the Hobbit circle jerk.
Tom Bombadil was not missed though. Boring as fuck and pointless.
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Leave the World Behind
- Lots of unlikeable characters
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- Was Julia Roberts going out of her way to destroy her "Hollywood Untouchable Princess" persona?
- Lots of interesting ideas - just put in the wrong order/place/context
- Lots of irritating plot-unlikelihoods, if not necessarily gaps
- Lots of scenes with no-tits. Titwatch: zero. No titties to be had. Move along, no titties to see here.
