Argentina v England (1st test)
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Argentina:
1 L. Noguera Paz, 2. A. Creevy (c), 3. E. Pieretto, 4. M. Alemanno, 5. T. Lavanini, 6. P. Matera, 7. J. Ortega Desio, 8. J-M. Leguizamon,
9 M. Landajo, 10. N. Sanchez, 11. E. Boffelli, 12. J. De La Fuente, 13. M. Orlando, 14. M. Moroni, 15. J. TuculetReplacements:
16 J. Montoya, 17. S. Garcia Botta, 18. N. Tetaz Chapparo, 19. G. Petti, 20. L. Senatore, 21. G. Bertranou, 22. J-M. Hernandez, 23. R. Moyano.http://lospumas.com.ar/2017/06/08/debutante-enfrentar-inglaterra/
England:
1 E Genge, 2. D Hartley (c), 3. H Williams*, 4. J Launchbury, 5. C Ewels, 6. M Wilson*, 7. T Curry*, 8. N Hughes,
9 D Care, 10. G Ford, 11. J May, 12. A Lozowski*, 13. H Slade, 14. M Yarde, 15. M Brown;Replacements:
16. J Singleton*, 17. M Mullan, 18. W Collier*, 19. N Isiekwe*, 20. D Armand*, 21. J Maunder*, 22. P Francis*, 23. D Solomona**uncapped player
http://www.englandrugby.com/news/england-name-side-for-first-argentina-test/
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Not often you see an 18 year old flanker starting a test for a tier 1 nation.
Pretty callow England team, so you'd fancy the Argies as favourites here. Interesting all the same though
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Harry Williams will be carrying on the Exeter Chiefs tradition of playing International rugby with a daft hair cut (See: J Nowell, L Cowan-Dickie).
I'm hoping that there is enough experience in the side to provide some stability and allow the debutants to show what they can do. It's the bench that worries me more though, if things aren't going your way, you want a bench option to make an impact and ours still has it's 'L" plates on.
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Is Slade the big ginga lad that gets a bit of a talk up in the press over here?
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@Crucial said in Argentina v England (1st test):
Is Slade the big ginga lad that gets a bit of a talk up in the press over here?
No, not sure who you're talking of? Slade is a bit lightweight in today's terms, dark haired, originally a 10 but has also been playing 13. IMO he's likely make a very good 12 too. His game is very front foot, flat line, good distribution but prone to throwing the occasional intercept pass. Good boot too. Dunno who the big ginga is though.
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@Catogrande said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@Crucial said in Argentina v England (1st test):
Is Slade the big ginga lad that gets a bit of a talk up in the press over here?
No, not sure who you're talking of? Slade is a bit lightweight in today's terms, dark haired, originally a 10 but has also been playing 13. IMO he's likely make a very good 12 too. His game is very front foot, flat line, good distribution but prone to throwing the occasional intercept pass. Good boot too. Dunno who the big ginga is though.
Ok. The name was familiar and I put 2 and 2 together but wasn't sure.
I look the kid up. Read a big article somewhere about him being the bees knees and heading for glory. -
@Crucial I think I know who you're talking about, but can't for the life of me think of his name. Played fullback at age group level a couple of years ago I think, very good goal kicker. Maybe plays for Exeter or another SW team?
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@Bones You might be thinking of Tom Homer. Plays for Bath but not yet nailed down regular spot.
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@Catogrande That's the ginger bastard.
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@Bones Putting the word "Bastard" after the word "Ginger" is redundant.
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You guys are thinking Harry Mallinder. He's strawberry blonde.
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@MN5 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
You guys are thinking Harry Mallinder. He's strawberry blonde.
That's beginning to sound like a bit of a crush.
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@Catogrande said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@MN5 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
You guys are thinking Harry Mallinder. He's strawberry blonde.
That's beginning to sound like a bit of a crush.
Has he got a chick in Galway?
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@Catogrande said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@MN5 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
You guys are thinking Harry Mallinder. He's strawberry blonde.
That's beginning to sound like a bit of a crush.
I can't even retort to this because I'll get banned again.
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Great to see ex St Peters College student Denny 'DJ' Solomona in the 23. He was always destined for higher honours since his school days.
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@MN5 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@Catogrande said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@MN5 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
You guys are thinking Harry Mallinder. He's strawberry blonde.
That's beginning to sound like a bit of a crush.
I can't even retort to this because I'll get banned again.
Ah. The love that dare not speak its name.
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@MN5 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
You guys are thinking Harry Mallinder. He's strawberry blonde.
that's the one.
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@MN5 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
You guys are thinking Harry Mallinder. He's strawberry blonde.
Yep, good player. Plays at Northampton (Midlands club not SW, that's what threw me). Sone of the head coach Jim Mallinder.
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Really enjoying this match.
Great intent and pace from both sides.
Difficult watching at times with all the shadows, especially at the breakdown. It's like Rorke's Drift.
Argentina 17 - 13 England at half time.
Some good tries from both sides.
Launchbury having a stormer.
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What a match.
Three tries this second half.
Best game in ages
Argentina 31 - 23 England
56 mins gone
The crowd is magic.
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@MiketheSnow how beautiful was that last try. Silky handling and fantastic lines from the Argies.
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Bit of a lull the past 5 mins. Monster scrum from Argentina. Destroyed England.
Crowd doing the Mexican Wave. Not because they're bored, because they're going bananas
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That scrum was outrageous, absolutely crushed. Odd that the penalty was for holding on though.
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Cracking kick from Ford.
Send him to NZ to replace Biggar.
Argentina 31 - 26 England
64 mins gone
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Brilliant from Ford. Turnover ball converted to a try.
This is a corker of a match.
Argentina 31 - 31 England
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@MiketheSnow Francis with the assist. Is one of them at inside centre?
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@Bones Francis I think
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Superb defensive turnover from England. That could have been the match
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Breathless stuff.
And that's why Brown is in Argentina not NZ
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Argentina pounding the English line and Hernandez slots the drop goal
Argentina 34 - 31 England
77 mins gone
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That's dumb from Argentina. Quick drop goal with 3 minutes on the clock and penalty advantage?
That'll cost them. They have a habit of losing like this.
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@Bones said in Argentina v England (1st test):
That's dumb from Argentina. Quick drop goal with 3 minutes on the clock and penalty advantage?
That'll cost them. They have a habit of losing like this.
Bingo.
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Shit tackling, but brilliant finish from Solamona. That's the match.
Argentina 34 - 38 England
Fuvking brilliant match.
If you wanted to show a newbie what rugby is all about then this match is it.
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George Ford. Legendary post match interview
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That was some game. Well worth a watch if anyone missed it and is at a loose end. Shame one team had to lose.
Crazy decision taking the DG at the end and keep that much time on the clock, but it was that kind of frantic game.
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@MiketheSnow said in Argentina v England (1st test):
George Ford. Legendary post match interview
any link?
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Most enjoyable match I've seen in ages. Youngsters all went well, very well. Of the "older" players, Ford played the best I've seen him in ages, Slade had a good game, and Yarde. Against that, Brown looked as unlikely to pass as ever, and Hartley was the weak point in two promising England attacks in the second half, getting thrown back like a ragdoll to end one multiphase movement, and spilling the ball in contact to end another. Argentina's handling and offloading was top drawer for large chunks of the game, but their pack didn't consistently dominate as anticipated, despite it being, literally, men against boys on occasion. Speaking of boys, 18 yr old Tom Curry, take a bow. Another great performance to back up his showing against the Baabaas. The lad shows real potential.
Eddie's got a fun couple of years ahead.
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@MiketheSnow said in Argentina v England (1st test):
If you wanted to show a newbie what rugby is all about then this match is it.
Not something one would expect from a match between England and Argentina, unless it was to show newbies how to scrum.
I'll have to look out for a replay on the rugby channel and record it to watch it later.
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@Disgusted-of-TW said in Argentina v England (1st test):
Most enjoyable match I've seen in ages. Youngsters all went well, very well. Of the "older" players, Ford played the best I've seen him in ages, Slade had a good game, and Yarde. Against that, Brown looked as unlikely to pass as ever, and Hartley was the weak point in two promising England attacks in the second half, getting thrown back like a ragdoll to end one multiphase movement, and spilling the ball in contact to end another. Argentina's handling and offloading was top drawer for large chunks of the game, but their pack didn't consistently dominate as anticipated, despite it being, literally, men against boys on occasion. Speaking of boys, 18 yr old Tom Curry, take a bow. Another great performance to back up his showing against the Baabaas. The lad shows real potential.
Eddie's got a fun couple of years ahead.
Definitely. Skills, strength and street smarts way beyond his years.
I look at Eddie Jones and can't help but be reminded of Ted when he went back to NZ.
He has a style of play and an ethos that he's worked at over the years, a lot of the time with success other times with failure, and now he has the cattle.
A massive herd.
Onwards and upwards for England regardless of the score next weekend.
Thought it was very telling that England as a whole were disappointed with this performance
What did the boss make of it?
England head coach Eddie Jones: "It's a great result, but I am disappointed with the performance - we gave away too many points.
"But we have shown a tonne of team ethic. We had 10 young guys who came into a situation where we were chasing the game. They were fantastic. The young guys made mistakes but they did not dwell on them. Take Denny [Solomona], he made two horrific defensive mistakes but then scored a fantastic try."
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@nzzp said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@MiketheSnow said in Argentina v England (1st test):
George Ford. Legendary post match interview
any link?
Can't see any on youtube.
