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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @pukunui said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    Lots of people (on this thread snd the exodus one) suggesting that Crockett won't make it to the next RWC because of his age. Is this even a thing anymore? He seems to be in the form of his life and guys like Brad Thorn, Richie, Woodcock and Kevvy have proven that you can keep playing well into your mid-late 30s.

    I agree with that, but he' signed until the end of 2018. Question is whether that contract will be extended, whether he'll go overseas or retire at the end of his contract.

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    Yeah I'd rate Seuli a lot higher, is surprisingly good in the scrum. Can't for the life of me see how DLB is too small when he appears to dwarf a couple others on the list.

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    @pukunui

    Wyatt will be 35 next January. Pushing right up against the age barrier to make the RWC in 2019. He'd be older than BBBT and Kev if he played in it.

    List of New Zealand national rugby union team player records - Wikipedia
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    @Bones

    Height 1.84 m (6 ft 0 in)
    Weight 112 kg

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    @Chris-B. said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    @pukunui

    Wyatt will be 35 next January. Pushing right up against the age barrier to make the RWC in 2019. He'd be older than BBBT and Kev if he played in it.

    List of New Zealand national rugby union team player records - Wikipedia

    I guess his career could be prolonged given he's only playing 25-30 minutes of footy per test match. Good quality footy at that, but he's not taking the battering of big minutes like others. Hansen and co have really found the best way to use him and he's worked on his craft being an excellent impact player.

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    @Chris-B. said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    @pukunui

    Wyatt will be 35 next January. Pushing right up against the age barrier to make the RWC in 2019. He'd be older than BBBT and Kev if he played in it.

    List of New Zealand national rugby union team player records - Wikipedia

    Those guys were playing pretty well when they retired though. What's to say if the RWCs they retired after were a year later that they wouldn't have made it to them?

    Just don't think age should be used as an indicator unless you are talking long term plans.

    Not saying he will definitely make it. But if he stays in good nick and form then why not.

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    @pukunui
    Yes, it's him. He's having a very good SR and did not look bad against the Lions.

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    Hookers :
    Coltman in front of Harris for me (I know Hansen thinks differently; he is the selector so he must be right).
    Greg Pleasants-Tate is one of the most underrated player of the SR. He's better than Dixon IMO (more physical, skills).

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    @Tim said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    Right, on to Hooker.

    1. Coles (hopefully back for the RC)
    2. Taylor
    3. Harris (not sure about this guy, at all - outplayed by Parsons and Taylor this year)
    4. Coltman
    5. Parsons
    6. Funnell (always liked the look of him, would love to watch him starting against quality opposition)
    7. GPT (FFS Blues)
    8. Riccitelli (young but promising)
    9. Dixon (exposed by the Lions, journeyman at best)
    10. Adrian Smith (deadset Harbour legend)

    Asafo Aumua is the obvious young player to look for.

    Other names that spring to mind ...
    ...

    Faiva

    Apisai (? NZQ'ed?)
    Anderson-Heather
    Moulds

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    @Tim said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    OK, on to tight head.

    1. Franks
    2. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    3. Nepo Laulala
    4. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
    5. Siate Tokolahi
    6. Atu Moli
    7. Sione Mafileo

    Is Oliver Jager NZ qualified? Quite a few tightheads in Super Rugby teams aren't.

    After the Lions games against the Chiefs and the Canes, I think JTA has leapfrogged Laulala. JTA scrummed very well last night against Joe Marler, one of the strongest scrummager of the NH, and was very busy in the loose. I'd like to see him selected for the EOYT.

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    @pukunui said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    @Chris-B. said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    @pukunui

    Wyatt will be 35 next January. Pushing right up against the age barrier to make the RWC in 2019. He'd be older than BBBT and Kev if he played in it.

    List of New Zealand national rugby union team player records - Wikipedia

    Those guys were playing pretty well when they retired though. What's to say if the RWCs they retired after were a year later that they wouldn't have made it to them?

    Just don't think age should be used as an indicator unless you are talking long term plans.

    Not saying he will definitely make it. But if he stays in good nick and form then why not.

    I'm not saying he definitely can't, either - but, at some point age is definitely going to finish you if nothing else does. And, that list is looking at the very extreme of more than 1150 All Blacks. On the other hand, being part of the tight five obviously gives you a better chance.

    Wyatt's pretty much the age right now that Tony Woodcock finished at and I think at the end Tony was hanging on a bit in terms of injuries and others going past him. Where Wyatt looks like he's still in good nick, so I don't think he needs to pull the pin right now.

    I guess, for me, two years ahead is pretty long term - if you look back two years our team has changed quite a lot. That will doubtless happen looking two years forward.

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    @Tim said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    OK, on to tight head.

    Is Oliver Jager NZ qualified? Quite a few tightheads in Super Rugby teams aren't.

    He might be...seems like he's been in Christchurch for a while - since 2014 at least. How long does he have to be there?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/83544474/pipe-dream-fulfilled-in-canterbury-for-fitting-irish-prop-oliver-jager

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    @Chris-B. 3 years since he finished school I believe.

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    The pisition that kicked us off:

    B Barrett
    L Sopoaga
    Beaver
    M Banks
    I Dagg

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    Isn't Banks off to Treviso?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/92249072/highlanders-marty-banks-leaving-new-zealand-for-real-at-end-of-season

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    @Tim not when he's in the AB squad #flipflop

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    So, for next year's 10's:

    1. Beauden Barrett
    2. Lima Sopoaga
    3. Richie Mo'unga
    4. Mitchell Hunt
    5. Ihaia West
    6. Otere Black
    7. Stephen Perofeta
    8. Hayden Parker
    9. Bryn Gatland
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    @Tim said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    So, for next year's 10's:

    1. Beauden Barrett
    2. Lima Sopoaga
    3. Richie Mo'unga
    4. Mitchell Hunt
    5. Ihaia West
    6. Otere Black
    7. Stephen Perofeta
    8. Ihaia West
    9. Hayden Parker
    10. Bryn Gatland

    Fixed

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    @Tim said in 2018 AB Depth Chart:

    OK, on to tight head.

    1. Franks
    2. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    3. Nepo Laulala
    4. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
    5. Siate Tokolahi
    6. Atu Moli
    7. Sione Mafileo

    Is Oliver Jager NZ qualified? Quite a few tightheads in Super Rugby teams aren't.

    I'm not sure whether all these players add to AB depth, more NZ SR depth. Or do you think all these players have the potential to develop into ABs? Have Tokolahi, Moli and Mafileo (and Jager) shown enough of that potential? Just a question.

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