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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11982626

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    Missed all Black Ferns 7s games today, but these are the results:

    48 - 7 v Japan; Portia Woodman scored 4 tries, Blyde scored 2, and Tui & Waaka each scored one.
    33-12 v England; Portia Woodman scored 3 tries, and Blyde scored 2.
    31-0 v USA; Portia Woodman scored 3 tries, and Blyde and Broughton each scored one.

    Woodman is a machine!

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    @stargazer Black Ferns 7s looked very sharp. Them and Australia looked a total class above everybody else.

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    @kiwimurph this article highlights the way league and the parents get it wrong. Signing a five year deal at 15 is crazy and irresponsible. I know a number in this boat and it makes no sense to put all your eggs in one basket.
    Anyone in the professional world and fight for players it won't stop anytime soon.

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    "By naming him in the All Blacks Sevens team it appears that NZR doesn't think his contract with the Warriors holds any value. Contracts signed by a minor (under 18) are not deemed binding in New Zealand.

    However Nanai-Seturo is understood to have signed his agreement in conjunction with his parents and an agent so age should be irrelevant."

    League media suggesting laws shouldn't count ...

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    Nice to rack up a big score. Seems we have a bit more flair out there than usual.

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    NZRU say a big fuck you to the Warriors and play Nanai-Seturo who looks great for the ABs 7s who smoke Russia.

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    @kiwimurph Nice. Did he score any tries?

    Anyone who tries to hold a 15 yo to a contract can suck a dick.

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    Nanai doesn't look that big at this level. Nice hands to score his try.

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    @tim Yep he scored a try and looked sharp. Made zero errors.

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    Yeah looked very sharp - very impressed with his awareness and especially work at the breakdown, made a very sweet clear out.

    We looked very slick there.

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    New Zealand is blessed with very promising young back threes : Will Jordan, Caleb Clarke, Leicester Fainganu'uku, Etene Nanai, Alaimalo ... and Rieko Ioane is only 20.

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    a contract is a contract though. He’s obviously tried to slip out the back door. If he’d followed the proper rules then I’m sure the warriors would’ve released him. He’s the one who signed for 5 years as a 15 yr old. Can’t blame the warriors for any of this. He trained with them all off season last year. Someone’s from nzrfu obviously been in his ear. Not a good look to start your career though.

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    @chchfanatic if " Contracts signed by a minor (under 18) are not deemed binding in New Zealand" am not sure the Warriors can get that upset given they seem to gave tried to pull a swifty themselves.

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    @booboo they had his parents there. Doesn’t it say something about that. I’m sure the warriors would’ve gone thru the proper channels. Just not a good look.

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    @booboo said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

    "By naming him in the All Blacks Sevens team it appears that NZR doesn't think his contract with the Warriors holds any value. Contracts signed by a minor (under 18) are not deemed binding in New Zealand.

    However Nanai-Seturo is understood to have signed his agreement in conjunction with his parents and an agent so age should be irrelevant."

    League media suggesting laws shouldn't count ...

    Is that true though? The law doesn't say that contracts signed by a minor are not deemed binding in New Zealand. A contract signed by a minor is not enforceable against a minor, which is something else. Also, if he is 18, he is not a minor anymore. This could be a continuing legal battle.

    Contract and Commercial Law Act 2017
    Contractual capacity of minors
    86 Contracts unenforceable against minors but otherwise have effect
    (1) Every contract entered into by a minor is unenforceable against the minor but otherwise has effect as if the minor were of full age.
    (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a contract to which section 92(1) applies.
    (3) This section is subject to sections 87 to 91.

    Any contract lawyers on the Fern?

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    Maybe lets wait until weve heard more information. A league journo writing an article that quotes his league agent who got the flick...

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    @stargazer yeah it’s an interesting case. Surely the nzrfu did their due diligence.

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    @kiwimurph and one that is League v Rugby, facts are probably optional.

    If he signed a contract at 15 that wasnt binding due to his parents not being there, doesnt make it legal now he is 18.

    You'd expect and hope BOTH parties (as in the Warriors and NZR) in this are acting within the parameters of what is legal.

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    NZR would have to be 100% certain of their legal rights to have selected Nanai for Sydney. If he is not legally allowed to play rugby due to his RL contract then there is the risk that the NZ sevens team would have to forfeit games as they are playing an ineligible player.

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