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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Duluth

      Houston, we have a problem ... mostly at lock, but also no Bucky!

      Magpies

      1 Jason Long
      2 Ash Dixon (c)
      3 Pouri Rakete-Stones
      4 Josh Eden-Whaitiri
      5 Nick Palmer
      6 Hugh Renton
      7 Tony Lamborn
      8 Marino Mikaele-Tuú
      9 Brad Weber (vc)
      10 Ihaia West
      11 Mason Emerson
      12 Pasqualle Dunn
      13 Jonah Lowe
      14 Cardiff Vaega
      15 Tiaan Falcon

      Reserves
      16 Jacob Devery
      17 Tim Farrell
      18 Jarvy Aoake
      19 Ben Parsons
      20 Fa'alemiga Selesele
      21 Ellery Wilson
      22 Hayden Hann
      23 TJ Vaega

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      • Stargazer
        Stargazer last edited by

        Northland

        1 Ross Wright
        2 Matt Moulds (c)
        3 Ropate Rinakama
        4 Josh Goodhue
        5 Tim Bond
        6 Murray Douglas
        7 Dan Pryor
        8 Matt Matich
        9 Sam Nock
        10 Peter Breen
        11 Matt Wright
        12 Jack Goodhue
        13 Rene Ranger
        14 Jordan Hyland
        15 Solomon Alaimalo

        Reserves:
        16 Jordan Olsen
        17 Phil Kite
        18 Chris Apoua
        19 Michael Faleafa
        20 Kara Pryor
        21 Emil Pittman
        22 Dan Hawkins
        23 Tamati Tua.

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        • Number 10
          Number 10 last edited by

          So that's Ben May, Michael Allardice, Geoff Cridge, Gareth Evans, Sam McNicol, Richard Buckman out - all current Super Rugby players.

          Add in Brendon Edmonds and Andrew Horrell, and that's half a starting fifteen.

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          • Stargazer
            Stargazer last edited by

            The Magpies need to be more disciplined than previous games, considering Peter Breen's excellent kicking this season. That midfield combo of Ranger and Goodhue is going to be a big challenge with Buckman out and Lowe maybe not being 100% (not sure how bad his ankle was last week and what caused it). With two locks from our development team, the second row is also going to be a weak spot for us. Our injury list has become longer again this week. I'll try making an update of our injury list again.

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            • Stargazer
              Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

              So indeed, new injuries to Buckman and Cridge, and an aggravated old injury to Allardice. Six of our Super Rugby players are injured. We're doomed. Again.

              I posted an updated injury list in the the Magpies 2017 thread.

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              • taniwharugby
                taniwharugby last edited by

                the Mitre 10 Cup preview says Buckman is being rested...

                Michael Allardice (rib) and Geoff Cridge (shoulder) are the latest in a fairly packed Hawke's Bay medical ward, while Richard Buckman has been rested to allow Pasqualle Dunn a rare start at second five-eighths.

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                • Stargazer
                  Stargazer @taniwharugby last edited by Stargazer

                  @taniwharugby They've had it wrong before. According to our local paper, Buckman was meant to start at fullback this week. I'd hardly call that resting. They say he suffered a leg injury at training this week. Although they're not flawless either, I tend to believe that more than what somebody writes for that Mitre 10 Cup website. Cridge also doesn't have a shoulder injury, but a knee injury. Out for 12 months, apparently.

                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=11930560

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                  • taniwharugby
                    taniwharugby @Stargazer last edited by

                    @stargazer wasnt saying it was right or wrong, just thats what they said.

                    Pretty much sums up the quality of most of the stuff we get in the media these days, opinion and speculation.

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                    • Higgins
                      Higgins last edited by Higgins

                      Not long to go guys, just finished my pre-match buildup with couple of practice waves of my flag and a got my jersey tucked into my shorts. Sadly the fridge hs only a couple left in it so will have to pace myself. Surely today will be better than what we have seen for most of the season so far?

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                      • Nepia
                        Nepia last edited by Nepia

                        Northland in for a try all ready ... @Higgins Higgins, you best send out for more beers!

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                        • Higgins
                          Higgins last edited by Higgins

                          Well perhaps it won't with Northland scooting in under the posts in the first few minutes to lead seven nil

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                          • Higgins
                            Higgins last edited by Higgins

                            Haven't noticed it in previous games but have Northland worn those milk bottle like socks all season?

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                            • Higgins
                              Higgins last edited by

                              Take the easy three points guys, might be the only chance we get to get off zero!

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                              • Higgins
                                Higgins last edited by Higgins

                                Please take note Northland RFU white numbers are almost invisible to read on a Cambridge blue jersey. In the meantime HB scored sixth tackle type try after Ihaia West grubbered it through. The Northland defender had an airshot trying to ground the ball and C Vaenga dived on it for the try After 25 minutes the score remains Northland 07 - 07 Hawkes Bay. Notably Peter Breen has fluffed two penalty kick from reasonable distance out but close to the line of the posts.

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                                • Higgins
                                  Higgins last edited by

                                  Solomon Alamaio makes mincemeat of an attempted tackle by a HB midfield back to scamper the best part of 60 metres to set up what should have been a try but for a number of penalty infringements by HB

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                                  • Higgins
                                    Higgins last edited by Higgins

                                    Only delays the inevitable with Northland scoring from the resultant tap penalty. Just before halftime Northland 17 - 07 Hawkes Bay

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                                    • Stockcar86
                                      Stockcar86 last edited by

                                      Where was the penalty for Vaega being held back after that break by West?

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                                      • Higgins
                                        Higgins last edited by Higgins

                                        Hi there '86, did you catch the Bathurst classic races? There were some gorgeous cars there racing including a couple of early seventies Mustangs and some real nice early 70s Falcons, even a couple of Chargers and what looked to be VJ Valiant and another that might have been a Valiant Pacer amongst others. On the other side there were also a number of Holdens!

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                                        • Stargazer
                                          Stargazer @Stockcar86 last edited by

                                          @stockcar86 The ref missed more offending by Northland. And also, why re-setting the scrum after scrum when Northland takes it down, and penalising the Bay after just one mistake by Long?

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                                          • Stockcar86
                                            Stockcar86 @Higgins last edited by

                                            @higgins said in Northland v Magpies:

                                            Hi there '86, did you catch the Bathurst classic races? There were some gorgeous cars there racing including a couple of early seventies Mustangs and some real nice early 70s Falcons, even a couple of Chargers and what looked to be VJ Valiant and another that might have been a Valiant Pacer amongst others. On the other side there were also a number of Holdens!

                                            Been working today, so seen no tv until 1/2 hr into Magpie game

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                                            • Higgins
                                              Higgins last edited by

                                              Think they have another race tomorrow so you might be able to catch that race sometime in the morning before the main race gets underway.

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                                              • Higgins
                                                Higgins last edited by

                                                Oh dear, looked a good try in live viewing to me but definitely a knock on. However the blue player dived onto the black players legs whilst both players were sliding on the ground before reaching the ball thus could justifiably be deemed to be a penalty try in my books.

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                                                • Stockcar86
                                                  Stockcar86 last edited by

                                                  Sky can fuck off with these interviews during play

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                                                  • Higgins
                                                    Higgins last edited by Higgins

                                                    Oh well at least we have the consolation of keeping the score well below 50, not that that is too much to be chuffed about. Fortunately there is just the one more game to go and I see the HBRFU are advertising tickets for the Lowe and Chapman stands at $7.50 for that game against the 'Poo next Sunday afternoon. Can anyone recall when the last time we lost to that mob at home was?

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                                                    • Number 10
                                                      Number 10 last edited by Number 10

                                                      1985 at Hastings, lost 15-23 (non-championship)

                                                      Manawatu were first division ... and we weren't ....

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                                                      • Stargazer
                                                        Stargazer @Higgins last edited by Stargazer

                                                        @higgins The last time we played them at home (in 2013), we beat them 45 - 18.
                                                        In 2009, we won 35 - 30, and in 2004, we beat them 44 - 12.
                                                        In all other years, we played them in Palmerston North (I think, but only had a quick look on the Mitre 10 Cup website).
                                                        I can't find info about the years before 2004.

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                                                        • Higgins
                                                          Higgins @Number 10 last edited by Higgins

                                                          @number-10 said in Northland v Magpies:

                                                          1985 at Hastings, lost 15-23 (non-championship)

                                                          Manawatu were first division ... and we weren't ....

                                                          Is that the game that Geoff Old poleaxed Peter O'Shaughnessey by the goalposts down at the scoreboard end of the ground and got himself red carded (or should have if he didn't)? My memory is letting me down on that particular unsavoury incident.

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                                                          • Stargazer
                                                            Stargazer last edited by

                                                            There's just one thing I really didn't get and they've been doing it all season. Why, oh why, did West and Weber kick the ball away all the time? Why give away possession? There were opportunities to run the ball!
                                                            And Jason Long is really not up to it. He's the weakest link in the front row. We need to recruit an experienced and strong LH; that will be much better for Farrell, too. I hope that they'll give him his first start next game.

                                                            On the other hand, again a really good game from Mikaele-Tu'u and Emerson. I wish a SR team would pick up Mikaele-Tu'u; he has so much potential!

                                                            And although I hate to admit it, Cardiff Vaega keeps making his tries. Lamborn and Lowe were not bad either. Lowe wasn't right all game, bothered by his crook ankle. You could see that from the start and it stopped him from running now and then.

                                                            I wonder for how many years they signed Nick Palmer. Hopefully, only for this season. We need another good lock, esp with Allardice and Cridge injured all the time. I even don't know whether Allardice is signed for next season. Damn, come home Dom Bird!

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                                                            • Higgins
                                                              Higgins last edited by

                                                              Nick Palmer must have a fantastic highlights reel that his manager used to get him a contract as I have not seen much that would recommend him as a Mitre10 Cup player let alone a Super Rugby Player. I suppose that could be another pointer why the Warratahs are so shite.

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                                                              • Stockcar86
                                                                Stockcar86 @Stargazer last edited by Stockcar86

                                                                @stargazer said in Northland v Magpies:

                                                                There's just one thing I really didn't get and they've been doing it all season. Why, oh why, did West and Weber kick the ball away all the time? Why give away possession? There were opportunities to run the ball!
                                                                And Jason Long is really not up to it. He's the weakest link in the front row. We need to recruit an experienced and strong LH; that will be much better for Farrell, too. I hope that they'll give him his first start next game.

                                                                On the other hand, again a really good game from Mikaele-Tu'u and Emerson. I wish a SR team would pick up Mikaele-Tu'u; he has so much potential!

                                                                And although I hate to admit it, Cardiff Vaega keeps making his tries. Lamborn and Lowe were not bad either. Lowe wasn't right all game, bothered by his crook ankle. You could see that from the start and it stopped him from running now and then.

                                                                I wonder for how many years they signed Nick Palmer. Hopefully, only for this season. We need another good lock, esp with Allardice and Cridge injured all the time. I even don't know whether Allardice is signed for next season. Damn, come home Dom Bird!

                                                                It must be the coaches tactics to kick the ball away. Its like Philpott has one tactic coaches what he knows, not towards the team strengths (which appears NOT to be broken play defence)

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                                                                • Stargazer
                                                                  Stargazer last edited by

                                                                  Surprise, surprise, the injury toll from this game is huge again! Expect an even more diminished side for our last game! 😖

                                                                  In his first starting XV appearance in the championship, second five-eighth Pasqualle Dunn collected a season-ending shoulder injury in the 31st minute. Busy No 8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u also suffered a shoulder injury, and Magpies head coach Craig Philpott said it was unlikely the world champion Baby Black will be available for the Bay's final outing of the season against Manawatu at Napier's McLean Park on Sunday.
                                                                  
                                                                  Centre Jonah Lowe is also unlikely to face the Turbos after aggravating his ankle injury.
                                                                  
                                                                  "Those three injuries were added to the 11 we already have. Considering the number of guys available I was really proud of the effort," Philpott said.
                                                                  
                                                                  The late withdrawal of Highlanders utility back Richard Buckman and the unavailability of regular starting locks Geoff Cridge and Michael Allardice meant the Magpies were never going to replicate the improvement displayed in the previous week's 33-30 loss to North Harbour.
                                                                  

                                                                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=11930882

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                                                                  • Stockcar86
                                                                    Stockcar86 last edited by

                                                                    It pains me to say this, but with the likely make-shift midfield we will have, and Selesele starting at 8, I'm going to be picking the Poo to win the last game

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                                                                    • Number 10
                                                                      Number 10 @Higgins last edited by

                                                                      @higgins said in Northland v Magpies:

                                                                      @number-10 said in Northland v Magpies:

                                                                      1985 at Hastings, lost 15-23 (non-championship)

                                                                      Manawatu were first division ... and we weren't ....

                                                                      Is that the game that Geoff Old poleaxed Peter O'Shaughnessey by the goalposts down at the scoreboard end of the ground and got himself red carded (or should have if he didn't)? My memory is letting me down on that particular unsavoury incident.

                                                                      Good recall Higgins.

                                                                      It was the 1981 game at Hastings - O'Shaughnessy went off injured.

                                                                      The Almanack tells me neither O'Shaughnessy or Old played in the 1985 match.

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