2017 November Internationals
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Now and then, I'll add channels/links to streams at the bottom of this post, esp. for those of you who are not watching from NZ. So, if you're interested, make sure to come back to this post! Can a moderator, please, pin this thread?
Day NZ date NZT Local 
Match Where Watch in NZ/Results Tue 24 Oct 7.30pm 5.30pm Classic Wallabies v Barbarians Lismore (AUS) 24 -27 Sat 28 Oct 5:00pm 3.00pm Australia v Barbarians Sydney 31 - 28 Sat 28 Oct 7.00pm 3.00pm Japan v World XV Fukuoka 47 - 27 Sat 4 Nov 3.00pm 7.00pm* Canada v Māori ABs Vancouver 9 - 51 Sat 4 Nov 6.40pm 2.40pm Japan v Australia Yokohama 30 - 63 Sun 5 Nov 4:00am 3.00pm* Barbarians v New Zealand London 22 - 31 . . . . . . . Sat 11 Nov 5.45am 4.45pm* Women's Barbarians v Munster Limerick 19 - 0 Sat 11 Nov 8.30am 7.30pm* Barbarians v Tonga Limerick 27 - 24 Sat 11 Nov 8.45am 8.45pm* Fr Barbarians v Māori ABs Bordeaux 19 - 15 Sun 12 Nov 3.00am 3.00pm* Italy v Fiji Catania 19 - 10 Sun 12 Nov 3.00am 6.00pm* Georgia v Canada Tbilisi 54 - 22 Sun 12 Nov 3:30am 2.30pm* Scotland v Samoa Edinburgh 44 - 38 Sun 12 Nov 4:00am 3.00pm* England v Argentina London 21 - 8 Sun 12 Nov 6:15am 5.15pm* Wales v Australia Cardiff 21 - 29 Sun 12 Nov 6:30am 5.30pm* Ireland v South Africa Dublin 38 - 3 Sun 12 Nov 8.45am 8.45pm* France v New Zealand Paris 18 - 38 . . . . . . . Wed 15 Nov 6.55am 6.55pm France XV v New Zealand Lyon 23 - 28 . . . . . . . Sun 19 Nov 3.00am 3.00pm* Italy v Argentina Florence 15 - 31 Sun 19 Nov 3:30am 2.30pm* Wales v Georgia Cardiff 13 - 6 Sun 19 Nov 4.00am 4.00pm* Spain v Canada Madrid 27 - 37 Sun 19 Nov 4:00am 3.00pm* England v Australia London 30 - 6 Sun 19 Nov 5.00am 6.00pm* Romania v Samoa Bucharest 17 - 13 Sun 19 Nov 5.00am 5.00pm* Germany v USA Wiesbaden 17 - 46 Sun 19 Nov 5.15am 5.15pm* Japan v Tonga Toulouse 39 - 6 Sun 19 Nov 6:15am 5.15pm* Scotland v New Zealand Edinburgh 17 - 22 Sun 19 Nov 6:30am 5.30pm* Ireland v Fiji Dublin 23 - 20 Sun 19 Nov 8.45am 8.45pm France v South Africa Paris 17 - 18 . . . . . . . Sun 26 Nov 3.00am 3.00pm* Italy v South Africa Padua 6 - 35 Sun 26 Nov 3.00am 6.00pm* Georgia v USA Tbilisi 21 - 20 Sun 26 Nov 3:30am 2.30pm* Scotland v Australia Edinburgh 53 - 24 Sun 26 Nov 4:00am 3.00pm* England v Samoa London 48 - 14 Sun 26 Nov 5.00am 6.00pm* Romania v Tonga Bucharest 20 - 25 Sun 26 Nov 6.00am 6.00pm* Fiji v Canada Nanterre 57 - 17 Sun 26 Nov 6:15am 5.15pm* Wales v New Zealand Cardiff 18 - 33 Sun 26 Nov 6:30am 5.30pm* Ireland v Argentina Dublin 28 - 19 Sun 26 Nov 8.45am 8.45pm France v Japan Paris 23 - 23 . . . . . . . Sun 3 Dec 3:30am 2.30pm* Wales v South Africa Cardiff Sky Sport 1 *local time on day before NZ date
Australia
Wales v South Africa, Sun 3 Dec, k/o time 1.30am AEDT: LIVE on beIN Sports 3France
Wales v South Africa, Sat 2 Dec, k/o time 3.30pm French time: LIVE on beIN Sports 1UK
Wales v South Africa, Sat 2 Dec, k/o time 2.30pm UK time: LIVE on BBC 1Ireland
Wales v South Africa, Sat 2 Dec, k/o time 2.30pm Irish time: LIVE on BBC 1South Africa
Wales v South Africa, Sat 2 Dec, k/o time 4.30pm SA time: LIVE on Super Sport 1 and MNETCanada
USA
Asia (Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Cambodia, China, East Timor, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Maldives, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam). Other countries - Asian and non-Asian - are geo-blocked.
Available on Rugby Pass TV:
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Tongan squad for their Northern tour. Good to see Penikolo Latu getting his first call-up!
http://matangitonga.to/2017/10/18/ikale-tahi-team-announced-european-tour
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Greig Laidlaw has been laid low with an ankle fracture. No Autumn tests for the Scots captain.
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New Zealand Rugby (NZR) and SKY will partner to livestream the All Blacks upcoming matches against the UK Barbarians and a France XV and the Maori All Blacks matches against Canada and the French Barbarians, in a move designed to grow the global fan base for the teams in black. The partnership will see all four games livestreamed as pay-per-view events on AllBlacksTV.com and will be available to both international and New Zealand based fans. The livestream will be available on all modern web and mobile browsers delivered in HD quality, depending on the viewer's bandwidth. Those who arrive late to the livestream, will have the ability to rewind to the beginning of the game at any time. SKY and Fan Pass subscribers will still be able to watch all these games, plus the Tests from the Vista 2017 All Blacks Northern Tour, through their normal subscription.New Zealand-based fans can purchase the livestream for selected individual matches on AllBlacksTV.com for NZD $24.99 per All Blacks match and NZD $14.99 for each Maori All Blacks match. The matches can be watched live or on-demand after the event. SKY subscribers can watch the four games live on SKY, delayed on Prime, and also available on SKY Go. Fan Pass customers can watch all matches live with their monthly subscription – which is NZD $99 for all seven All Blacks and Maori All Blacks matches in November (plus all the other sport broadcasted on SKY Sport 1-4 that month).http://www.allblacks.com/News/31638/nzr-and-sky-partner-to-livestream-all-blacks-matches
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@stargazer Damn, that's not cheap, especially when they're competing with other streams, both legal and illegal.
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@nepia Yes, that's what I thought, too. Illegal streams are usually of terrible quality though; I expect the NZR stream to be top notch. Or it should be.
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My thoughts too considering it isn't for the test matches.
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@stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:
@nepia Yes, that's what I thought, too. Illegal streams are usually of terrible quality though; I expect the NZR stream to be top notch. Or it should be.
They were in the past, not so much anymore (I hear).
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The ABs stream for the Ireland Chicago game (and Maori-USA night before) wasn't THAT great.
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@kiwimurph If that's the case, then the price for watching these games is absolutely ridiculous.
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@stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:
@nepia Yes, that's what I thought, too. Illegal streams are usually of terrible quality though; I expect the NZR stream to be top notch. Or it should be.
Yeah nice thought but they've partnered with sky...
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@kiwimurph said in 2017 November Internationals:
The ABs stream for the Ireland Chicago game (and Maori-USA night before) wasn't THAT great.
Do you remember how much it was? I remember it being 6 or 7 bucks?
I would think people pay for these streams if they are reasonably prized, for someone who don't really have access to sh rugby, I welcomed the Chicago stream, but probably won't ship that much for the upcoming games.
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@sapetyvi Yeah I think that was about right price wise.
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$25 is way too much, with 10+ tests a year...
There are plenty of quality streams out there for bigger games like this, but they do crash still (as does SkyGo)
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Australia:
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France have lost Camille Lopez (Clermont), who - last night - suffered a broken leg in one of the most horrific accidents I've seen in rugby recently. Sickening. He has already had surgery and will be out for at least 5 months.
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Samoan squad for their Northern tour:
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@stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:
France have lost Camille Lopez (Clermont), who - last night - suffered a broken leg in one of the most horrific accidents I've seen in rugby recently. Sickening. He has already had surgery and will be out for at least 5 months.
Dude, no picture no post.
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@billy-tell I didn't want to see that again, so didn't search for a clip. Poor lad.
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I sure as hell want to see a 200% improvement and some fireworks on this November tour rather than that dull and dumb shit show they served up on Saturday. Christ if we shovel the ball from side to side in the vague hope that someone will do something with it as we did v Aus - the bloody Barbarians will eat us alive, let alone France Wales or Scotland.
We need a bloody plan of attack first and foremost, which I hasten to add seemed to be completely lacking on Saturday. We can't afford to give the latitude we gave against Aus, and perhaps a think tank from the coaches and senior players on managing the game better may be in order. A freshen-up in the coaches box is long overdue -
@stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:
Samoan squad for their Northern tour:
Not a particularly strong looking team.
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Brian Alainu'uese not there. Is he injured?
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@rapido bit rough on Kahn!
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Classic Wallabies squad named to play the Barbarians (today, see first post of this thread):
1 Conor Young
2 Adam Freier
3 Matt Gibbon
4 Jake Douglas
5 Radike Samo
6 Dave McDuling
7 AJ Gilbert
8 Pat McCutcheon
9 Brett Sheehan
10 Nick Jooste
11 Lote Tuqiri
12 Morgan Turinui
13 Matt Carraro
14 Alex Gibbon
15 Drew MitchellReserves
16 Bill Johnson
17 Rory O'Connor
18 Jock Armstrong
19 Pat Phibbs
20 Clay Uyen
21 James Verity-Amm
22 Byron Hutchinson
23 Brendan Owenhttp://www.rugby.com.au/news/2017/10/23/drew-mitchell-classic-wallabies
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Barbarians squad to take on the Classic Wallabies:
15 Tom Banks (Brumbies)
14 Jack Maddocks (Rebels)
13 Tom Connor (Warringah)
12 David Horwitz (Waratahs)
11 Andrew Kellaway (Waratahs)
10 Sam Greene (Toyota)
9 Michael Ruru (Force, captain)1 Sef Fa’agase (Reds)
2 Anaru Rangi (Force)
3 Salesi Manu (Bond)
4 Richard Arnold (Force)
5 Matt Philip (Force)
6 Max Girdler (Warringah)
7 Kane Koteka (Force)
8 Sam Ward (Warringah)Replacements
16 Andrew Ready (Reds)
17 Pekahou Cowan (Force & Australia)
18 Taniela Tupou (Reds)
19 Sam Carter (Brumbies & Australia)
20 Isi Naisarani (Force)
21 Theo Strang (Sydney University)
22 Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs & Samoa)
23 Brett Wellington (Scots College)http://www.barbarianfc.co.uk/news/sam-ward-in-barbarians-side-to-face-classic-wallabies/
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Hey Oz fans, so what is the point of the Classic Wallabies v Barbarians match?
It doesn't seem to serve a purpose other than just being a festival game - or are the Baabaas (TNW & Pek Cowan aside) seen as future Wallabies players?
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Wales squad for November internationals. Note - Haleigh Parkes.
Wales squad
Forwards (20): Rob Evans, Wyn Jones, Nicky Smith, Leon Brown, Tomas Francis, Samson Lee, Kristian Dacey, Elliot Dee, Ken Owens, Jake Ball, Adam Beard, Seb Davies, Cory Hill, Alun Wyn Jones (c), Sam Cross, Taulupe Faletau, Dan Lydiate, Josh Navidi, Aaron Shingler, Justin Tipuric
Backs (16): Aled Davies, Gareth Davies, Rhys Webb, Dan Biggar, Rhys Patchell, Rhys Priestland, Owen Williams, Jonathan Davies, Tyler Morgan, Hadleigh Parkes, Owen Watkin, Hallam Amos, Alex Cuthbert, Steffan Evans, Leigh Halfpenny, Liam Williams
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@nepia Yeah, not even Wales qualified for the first three games
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Geez, they must be desparate. He's 30.
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Parkes has been playing some good footy for Scarlets in the Pro14. Playing mainly at 2nd 5 with the odd game at centre. Plays alongside Davies, so that probably helped his chances significantly.
Good luck to him.
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@nepia said in 2017 November Internationals:
Hey Oz fans, so what is the point of the Classic Wallabies v Barbarians match?
It doesn't seem to serve a purpose other than just being a festival game - or are the Baabaas (TNW & Pek Cowan aside) seen as future Wallabies players?
More a warmup game for the Baabaas given their upcoming match against the Wallabies.
Baabaas won by 3 points for anyone interested.
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Does no Jamie Roberts or Scott Williams mean that Warrenball really has been retired?
Meanwhile reports are that Gatland wanted ex Wales U20 player Luke Hamilton but Hamilton has been named by Scotland instead. Some slight loophole that is now closed applies to Hamilton and he is free to move.
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@daffy-jaffy said in 2017 November Internationals:
Wales squad for November internationals. Note - Haleigh Parkes.
Meanwhile Scotland have selected Phil Burleigh...and Ireland will likely choose Bundee Aki...
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This must be most of, or the complete, World XV squad for the match against Japan on Saturday. Interestingly, Robbie Deans is coaching this squad as well as the Barbarians. And look who's in the squad! Flynn, Pleasants-Tate, Ellis, Aso & Buckman!
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Must break some sort of advertising code by naming Greg Pleasants-Tate in a World XV.
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Magpies flanker Tony Lamborn has been named in the USA Eagles squad.
The team's head coach is Dave Hewett, former Crusaders forwards coach.
Full squad: https://www.usarugby.org/2017/10/mens-eagles-await-first-ever-matchup-with-germany/
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@stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:
Magpies flanker Tony Lamborn has been named in the USA Eagles squad.
The team's head coach is Dave Hewett, former Crusaders forwards coach.
Full squad: https://www.usarugby.org/2017/10/mens-eagles-await-first-ever-matchup-with-germany/
Did he get any stand down for his part in that discussion against the 'Poo?
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@higgins I have been keeping an eye on it, and I haven't seen any publication relating to a suspension of Lamborn or Tudreu. I found a media release relating to a red card handed out during the same weekend (Albert Nikoro), so I can only assume that both Lamborn and Tudreu's cases were either dismissed or their sent-off was deemed a sufficient punishment. Probably, there has been a media release about it, but no news site could be bothered to publish it.
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And it is probably only going to get worse as I read someone's column yesterday where he said the Fairfax Media had made the position of sports reporters redundant at a number of regional newspaper and the Hawkes Bay Today was one of those mentioned. Will see if I can hunt it out and post the link to it.
EDIT: Found something referring to the axing of sports reporters positions but not the column I was referring to above http://www.etu.nz/fairfax-axe-sports-reporters-another-blow-regional-journalism/
