World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017
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The All Blacks were honoured in Spain overnight, being awarded the Princesca de Asturias award for sporting success at the Campoamor theatre in Asturias. The award is handed out to acknowledge those who make a significant achievement in science, humanities or public affairs, established by Felipe, Prince of Asturias in 1980. A delegation from New Zealand Rugby, including CEO Steve Tew, current players Israel Dagg and Jordie Barrett and legends Keven Mealamu and Conrad Smith accepted the honour. After accepting the award, Mealamu led the rest of the players in a haka to the gathered audience. -
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New Zealand sevens player Sarah Goss and rower Robbie Manson have won the Oceania athlete of the year awards at the ANOC (Association of National Olympic Committees) 2017 Awards in Prague. -
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Don't think BB should have been nominated. Folau or Farrell for me.
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@billy-tell said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Don't think BB should have been nominated. Folau or Farrell for me.
Folau would be my choice
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Folau for me - I don't think he's had a huge standout year this year, but then again, I don't think anybody has in the SH.
Itoje has been immense, but not THAT immense (part of me thinks if is name was Smith, he wouldn't get half the plaudits he gets, but thats another discussion ...).
Farrell is worth a shot, and worthy of his nomination, and would be my runner up.
Barrett is just odd, he's had some moments of brilliance, but hardly a bucketful. Ioane as arguably been the best All Black, but think best new player or whatever it is he's nominated for is a more fair assessment.
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@family-man Mine, too. And of all NZ nominees, Portia Woodman has to be the most deserving.
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@majorrage said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Folau for me - I don't think he's had a huge standout year this year, but then again, I don't think anybody has in the SH.
Itoje has been immense, but not THAT immense (part of me thinks if is name was Smith, he wouldn't get half the plaudits he gets, but thats another discussion ...).
Farrell is worth a shot, and worthy of his nomination, and would be my runner up.
Barrett is just odd, he's had some moments of brilliance, but hardly a bucketful. Ioane as arguably been the best All Black, but think best new player or whatever it is he's nominated for is a more fair assessment.
I think for NZ the forgotten man of awesomeness this season is Aaron Smith. He has been outstanding in every match
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@hooroo yeah good point - much more worthy than either of Barret or Ioane in those nominations actually.
And he put one through a bird in an airport dunny en-route ... thats a world player of the year for sure ...
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I don't think Aaron Smith was that good this year. He has never reached the same level he had before the toilet incident last year. For me, he's definitely not more worthy than BB or Ioane.
If he hadn't been injured, I think Moody would/should have been in contention. Props hardly get the recognition they deserve, and he's had a great year until his shoulder injury. Sam Whitelock is another one. Different type of player to Retallick, but just as good in what he does. Certainly better and more deserving than Itoje.
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Conor Murray has been excellent this season too. As has Tadhg Furlong.
For NZ Moody was having a dazzling season until his extremely untimely injury. I really really hope he comes back with the same form.
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Sam Whitelock is another one.
Ditto Sam Cane, hardly ever gets any recognition (outside the fern), even if he has constantly been one of the best(if not best) OS flankers in the world since 2015.
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Based on what I've seen this season across the hemispheres and the competitions, my World XV 2017 would be something like
- Moody (NZ)
- Guirado (Fra) although Creevy (Arg) and at times Marx (SA) are also in the mix
- Furlong (Ire)
- Retallick (NZ)
- Itoje (Eng)
- SOB (Ire) - yes, yes I've moved him to 6, I know
- Cane (NZ)
- McMahon (Aust) - but no real standout candidates at 8
- Murray (Ire)
- Barrett (NZ) but Sexton (Ire) could just as easily have this slot
- Ioane (NZ)
- Farrell (Eng)
- ?, not a stellar year for world 13s
- Hodge (Aust) - although I think he's played 11 more than 14
- Folau (Aust)
No doubt some dodgy enough choices on my part, but 12 months is a long time.
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Good team, but surely Jonathan Davies is a must for 13?
I would have Marx as hooker. Agree with Cane and O'Brien as top 2 flankers, with Hooper and Matera pressing. Mafi and Parisse close for 8? Beale, Kuidrani and Daly all contenders in backline, with latter maybe ahead of Hodge.So many contenders for lock with Whitelock, Nakarawa, Etzebeth, Wyn Jones all worthy candidates. But, the three-quarters and loosies not so blessed with standouts.
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@arhs said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Good team, but surely Jonathan Davies is a must for 13?
I would have Marx as hooker. Agree with Cane and O'Brien as top 2 flankers, with Hooper and Matera pressing. Mafi and Parisse close for 8? Beale, Kuidrani and Daly all contenders in backline, with latter maybe ahead of Hodge.So many contenders for lock with Whitelock, Nakarawa, Etzebeth, Wyn Jones all worthy candidates. But, the three-quarters and loosies not so blessed with standouts.
Ah yeah Davies forgot about him. Ditto for Beale. Nakawara is a good call too.
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I don't get the thinking Itoje has had a big year. I was worried about him 6 months ago but I think he's not hit the heights expected.
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@bones admittedly I don't watch as much of NH rugby as I used to, was looking forward to seeing him in NZ an expected big things of him, but ended underwhelmed and thinking he was a lazier version of Ali Williams.
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Barrett doesn't deserve it, and I agree Itoje was underwhelming, unless you get this award for being an annoying prick at the ruck.
That leaves Ioane, Farrell & Folau. All have had great years, maybe too early for Ioane. Folau was had a stellar try scoring year and Farrell was tidy for the Lions and dominate for England.
I reckon - Farrell for the win
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@dk said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Barrett doesn't deserve it, and I agree Itoje was underwhelming, unless you get this award for being an annoying prick at the ruck.
That leaves Ioane, Farrell & Folau. All have had great years, maybe too early for Ioane. Folau was had a stellar try scoring year and Farrell was tidy for the Lions and dominate for England.
I reckon - Farrell for the win
Sums it up for me too.
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@taniwharugby said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@bones admittedly I don't watch as much of NH rugby as I used to, was looking forward to seeing him in NZ an expected big things of him, but ended underwhelmed and thinking he was a lazier version of Ali Williams.
Itoje is more over rated than Ngatai.
If the panel that decide these awards want to encourage players that stand offside and scream at the opposition in the lineout then the awards are a joke.
Kind of proven anyway by the nomination of BB. Not deserving at all this year. I am struggling to recall a good test match from him (by his standards)
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Yeah, you have to wonder about these awards, as no NZer appears to have come to the defence of BB's inclusion in the nominations (as yet, the internet might be out at Rancids). Maybe it's like the Emmys and if you win one year you'll keep getting nominated.
I'd guess I'd go with Folau of those left given that Ioane is probably too young and will likely pick up newcomer. Folau might need some perking up as he lost the same-sex marriage referendum today.
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It's funny reading all these comments (not saying I disagree!); you'd think the people on the selection panel would know what they're doing
Both shortlists were selected by the new star-studded World Rugby Awards panel which comprises Rugby World Cup winners Richie McCaw, John Smit, George Gregan, Maggie Alphonsi and former England coach Clive Woodward alongside Brian O’Driscoll, Fabien Galthié and AgustÃn Pichot.
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In a new step in the selection process, fans, international captains, coaches and media will have their say before the panel considers the winners of the prestigious awards. Fans can find out how to cast their vote here.
Nominees for World Rugby Players of the Year announced | World Rugby
Four nations provide the nominees for the prestigious World Rugby Men's and Women's Players of the Year awards for 2017
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World Rugby Sevens Men's Player of the Year 2017: Perry Baker
World Rugby Coach of the Year 2017: Eddie Jones
World Rugby Referee of the Year 2017: Joy Neville
IRPA Try of the Year 2017: Joaquin Tuculet (a world cup try from Portia Woodman was nominated, too)
World Rugby Award for Character 2017: Eduardo "Coco" Oderigo
2017 Vernon Pugh Award for Distinguished Service: the late Marcel Martin -
Full awards winners list:
World Rugby Men's Player of the Year: Beauden Barrett (New Zealand
World Rugby Women's Player of the Year: Portia Woodman (New Zealand).
Team of the year – Black Ferns
Coach of the Year - Eddie Jones (England)
World Rugby Referee Award – Joy Neville (Ireland)
IRPA Try of the Year - Joaquin Tuculet (Argentina)
World Rugby Breakthrough Player of the Year - Rieko Ioane (New Zealand)
World Rugby's Men's Sevens Player of the Year - Perry Baker (USA)
World Rugby's Women's Sevens Player of the Year - Michaela Blyde (New Zealand)
IRPA Special Merit - Rachael Burford and Richie McCaw
Award for Character - Eduardo "Coco" Oderigo
Vernon Pugh Awards for Distinguished Service - Marcel Martin -
Beaudy wasn't expecting to be named POTY...
comments in speech "I wasn't expecting this" "Was aiming to be better than last year, but felt had a way to go"Personally think that if Folau plays EOYT he wins, was hoping for Ioane.
Beaudy did score 4th most points by an AB in a calendar year (DC with other 3)
Set a world record for conversions too apparently.Wonder if domestic form is taken into consideration by judges?
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IRB 'knighting' BB.
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Good thing they don't award these things based on reputation...
He hasn't been nearly as bad as some people here would claim, but no way did he deserve that. I thought Ioane was a lock.
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Eddie Jones all class
Shag should have won. With all the injuries and new faces it is an achievement that we kept winning as usual. The only blot, if you want to call it that, was failing to dispatch the Lions
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It shouldn't be long until the finalists for the NZ Rugby Awards will be announced. That will be interesting, but I don't think the All Blacks will feature among the nominees for the team of the year. Don't expect BB among the nominees (for whatever category) either, but definitely Rieko and Portia. Black Ferns and Crusaders for team of the year, possibly the Black Ferns 7s and/or Canterbury as well.
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Portia Woodman is jacked. Some pretty good highlights from the women's game. I should try and watch more of it as it looks like it gets played at a pretty good pace.
I'm surprised Barrett won that... but I think the year McCaw won over O'Driscoll was more of a surprise. It just seems it was slim pickings this year... I would consider 3 of the 5 overrated. Judged on 2017's own merit as opposed to the high standard he set last year I would have picked Barrett over Itoje and Farrell.
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The ABs and coach are certainties to win the Halbergs if they do something significant (i.e., RWC, undefeated season) but this season they didn't. That should give other sports and their coaches more well-deserved recognition.
As to the WR player of the year awards, the most surprising was the year Shane Williams won in 2008.
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@milk said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Portia Woodman is jacked.
Wasn't sure what you meant by "Jacked" so googled:
jacked
adjectiveUSinformal
1.
physically or mentally stimulated from the effects of a drug or stimulant.
"a racing car driver, jacked up on amphetamines"That what you mean? Or just that she is "well built'? Certainly deserves the award as did Blyde.
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@snowy said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@milk said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Portia Woodman is jacked.
Wasn't sure what you meant by "Jacked" so googled:
jacked
adjectiveUSinformal
1.
physically or mentally stimulated from the effects of a drug or stimulant.
"a racing car driver, jacked up on amphetamines"That what you mean? Or just that she is "well built'? Certainly deserves the award as did Blyde.
jacked
jakt/
adjectiveUSinformal
adjective: jacked; adjective: jacked up1. physically or mentally stimulated from the effects of a drug or stimulant. "a race car driver, jacked up on amphetamines" full of nervous excitement. "we're jacked about going to the semifinals" 2. (of a person) having very well-developed muscles. "a dude so jacked you have to wonder if he's freebasing creatine"The second one.
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@milk Gotcha. She is one strong looking woman.
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Sarah Goss and Robbie Manson win Oceania athlete of the year | New Zealand Olympic Team
