Awesome stuff you see on the internet
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We've all thought about it...
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Brilliant
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A long but sobering read
We did the math on AI’s energy footprint. Here’s the story you haven’t heard.
The emissions from individual AI text, image, and video queries seem small—until you add up what the industry isn’t tracking and consider where it’s heading next.
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@MiketheSnow said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
A long but sobering read
The emissions from individual AI text, image, and video queries seem small—until you add up what the industry isn’t tracking and consider where it’s heading next.
This AI thing better be worth it eh?
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@MiketheSnow By 2028, the researchers estimate, the power going to AI-specific purposes will rise to between 165 and 326 terawatt-hours per year. That’s more than all electricity currently used by US data centers for all purposes; it’s enough to power 22% of US households each year.
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@antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
t’s enough to power 22% of US households each year.
that was potnetially misleading.
In NZ households only consume 11% of total power according to Google - I couldn't find that for the USA. So 22% of a low-ish number isn't a massive number. Industry consumes a lot of power.
They also don't set out what activity the AI could displace. If it makes a task more efficient, that could easily offset the energy.
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@nzzp said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
t’s enough to power 22% of US households each year.
that was potnetially misleading.
In NZ households only consume 11% of total power according to Google - I couldn't find that for the USA. So 22% of a low-ish number isn't a massive number. Industry consumes a lot of power.
They also don't set out what activity the AI could displace. If it makes a task more efficient, that could easily offset the energy.
Found this - says US households use 11.8% of total power (in 2023). So that's about 3% of total power usage.
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@nzzp said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@nzzp said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
t’s enough to power 22% of US households each year.
that was potnetially misleading.
In NZ households only consume 11% of total power according to Google - I couldn't find that for the USA. So 22% of a low-ish number isn't a massive number. Industry consumes a lot of power.
They also don't set out what activity the AI could displace. If it makes a task more efficient, that could easily offset the energy.
Found this - says US households use 11.8% of total power (in 2023). So that's about 3% of total power usage.
That's total energy, not electrical - which according to your source 43% of home energy consumption comes from electricity.
According to the EIA, the residential sector's use of electricity (38.4%) is higher than either commercial or industrial. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/data-and-statistics.php
Presuming that the terminology is directly translatable (i.e. households = residential) etc. then according to chatgpt to meet an additional residential electricity demand of 332 billion kWh annually, you would need approximately:
- 41 1000 MW nuclear plants, or
- 113 600 MW combined-cycle natural gas plants, or
- 129 600 MW coal plants, or
- 431 large wind farms (250 MW each), or
- 1,510 utility-scale solar farms (100 MW each)
I get the feeling those efficiencies may be some time away yet.
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Genius
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@MiketheSnow feels like Stevenage is a big loser there!
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@Bones said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@MiketheSnow feels like Stevenage is a big loser there!
They got paid
