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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/103995227/the-blues-coaching-shakeup--all-you-need-to-know-about-the-tana-and-leon-show

    Interesting to note that the pass/fail mark is making the semi finals

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    I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

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    @tim said in Blues 2019:

    I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

    Edited: A Ta$man player in the Crusaders squad, who may be off contract (uncertain, because they never indicated the duration of his contract) is Quinten Strange. Pete Samu is off-contract, but I think it's more likely he'll go to Australia if he isn't staying at the Crusaders.

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    @Tim Billy Guyton and Sam Prattley! 🙂

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    @tim

    Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

    Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

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    @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

    @bones

    Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

    Which they are lyrics for!

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    @arhs said in Blues 2019:

    @tim

    Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

    Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

    Of these players, Ennor, Sanders and Jager are all contracted to the Crusaders next year or the year after. I'm only certain that Macilai will be off-contract after the 2018 season.

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    I'd imagine there will be a few fringe players that Leon might help to sign, but I doubt there will be many if any big guns who aren't already nailed down elsewhere.

    I'd be looking to see whether he could bring Makalio and a fullback - any of Havili, Bridge, Jordan or Dagg.

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    Super Rugby is attractive to a Kiwi on the way to retirement:

    It's home. Some of us have had the choice of minting it in Europe and chosen to come back. That you are used to living overseas doesn't make it home.

    It's less stress. Mainly because the season is so much shorter, so a Super series coach can actually get a long holiday.

    It'll come down to what their wives want in some cases, so we'll never know. Warren might be enjoying Europe, but is Trudi? Does being close to family over-ride money?

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    The other thing to remember is that being a Super rugby coach is hardly a minimum wage job. Im sure after a decade of coaching Wales and a couple of BIL tours Gatland won't have too much of a mortgage to pay off.

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    @bones

    Oops 🙂

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    It's about time we reflect on who from this years squad should stay and who should go. This is made harder this year by all the injuries.

    OUT:

    Apisai
    Taramai
    Kiri Kiri
    Pryor only stays on as 3rd choice 7, so dev squad.
    Nock
    Gatland - OK backup, but gone to Highlanders
    Kirkpatrick - filler
    Hyland - too slow
    Johnson - serious heart surgery
    Moala - overseas

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    Apisai signed a two year deal didn't he?

    He should be de-listed.

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    The definite selections for next year.

    IN:

    Hodgman
    P. Manu - good for squad depth, good scrummager
    Ofa
    Scrafton - coming back from a serious knee injury though.
    Cowley-Tuioti
    Goodhue - finally started to hit his straps at this level. Good against Jaguares until concussed.
    Tuipulotu - I see him as primarily a bench option though
    Papali'i
    Gibson
    A. Ioane
    Pulu - prefer him off the bench ...
    Perofeta
    Black
    SBW
    Leger - looks like a good prospect for the midfield
    T. Manu - looks to have the ability at this level, be interesting where he plays for Auckland
    R. Ioane
    Clarke
    Duffie

    That's 19 players.

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    @kiwimurph Ugh. Unfortunately it looks like it.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/08/blues-sign-hurricanes-hooker-leni-apisai-until-2019.html

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    @tim did Tamati Tua sign for 2 years?

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    As discussed earlier in the thread i think Hooker is somewhere they need to find someone.
    It is one of those positions that seem to be key to a good team.
    9 is the other spot they need an upgrade. Pulu just isn't the answer.
    Im afraid however that both Parsons and Pulu are cemented in while Tana is in charge.

    Other than those two positions the building blocks seem to be there to make a decent team. They just need a decent architect and builder.

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    I wonder if Isa Nacewa will join the Blues next season as an assistant coach after retiring from Leinster, he could be very useful

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    @comets he was involved as a coach with the Blues a few years ago under Kirwan.

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    @kiwimurph
    yeah i'm aware thus why i asked, its very likely that he might become a coach but Leon and Isa are a bit same except Isa has played in more positions and Leon has played in more international tests..they are both also known for their kicking game, so maybe Isa might join another franchise (hopefully the Highlanders who will need a kicking coach to develop new playmakers after Sopoaga leaves this month)

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