Blues 2019



  • Maybe ask Nacewa if he's been staying in shape.



  • @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2019:

    If Plummer is injured,I would love the Blues to think outside the square, I rate Kaleb Trask from BOP as a brilliant prospect..
    Brilliantly balanced runner who can kick goals as well Daniel Kirkpatrick does not do it for me..another Canes reject who is no more than a journeyman .

    Trask wasn't considered for the NZ U20s due to injury.



  • @Stargazer thanks for the update..I close that door..!



  • @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

    Did Willy Havili get much game time during the NPC?

    No - and the game he played in he struggled a bit.

    He's a different build to David - similar but possibly lighter than Otere Black, I'd say.

    If the Blues need a Tasman first five, I reckon they'd be better with Tim O'Malley.



  • Do we pick someone from club rugby like D'Angelo Leiula?



  • @African-Monkey I was going to mention him, but since he wasn't in the development team, I doubt he's in the mix.



  • You can see Havili training with the Blues in one of the latest pictures posted by the Blues.

    The pictures posted seem to be of a training game of the 1st XV vs the 2nd XV. You can clearly see Pulu playing halfback with the 1sts, while Ruru is playing halfback for the 2nds. Hopefully that doesn't mean Pulu is starting this weekend if Nock is out.



  • A friend of mine was at the St Kents vs Sacred Heart game on Saturday and he saw Nock there with Faiane. He said that Nock had a little bit of tape around two of his fingers. He said it didn't look that serious, but who knows.

    It honestly didn't look that serious when he came off last week, as he was going to play on and he wasn't showing much pain from it, but he got called to come off anyway. I hope he plays, because I can't stand Pulu.



  • @Dice Any news on Plummer?



  • @Tim said in Blues 2019:

    @Dice Any news on Plummer?

    Given the scale of the knock, I'd be very surprised if we see him this week. He was in a really bad way on the field



  • @Dice said in Blues 2019:

    A friend of mine was at the St Kents vs Sacred Heart game on Saturday and he saw Nock there with Faiane.

    Hell, I hope they weren't invited there so a scholarship offer could be dangled in front of them!!!!!!!



  • @Tim I've got nothing, but like nzzp, I'd be surprised if he played this week. He was doing the chicken dance when he tried to get up - it didn't look good at all.



  • @Tim Nocks out, having surgery on his fingers.



  • @Dice I was there too. Also spotted Tele'a and Blake Gibson. All SKC alumni. They regularly attend SKC games



  • @Nogusta That sucks. Just when he was starting to show some form. I'm assuming that's the end of his Super Rugby season?

    Has he done enough to get another Blues contract? He might need to play for another one in the M10.



  • Our priority (like it has been for ages) is to find a good quality 9/10 combo. We seem to have taken the shotgun approach of quantity over quality, and just hoped one pops out fully formed. Mind you, Leon knows a bit about quality 10s, and should be able to see the attributes we need to get a combination that will get us to upper mid table.

    Overall, though, our big headache is our lack of rugby nous. WE lost the Canes game because we played dumb rugby

    Edit: and if you swapped the 9/10 combos, Blues win that game by 30 points.



  • @Dice said in Blues 2019:

    I'm assuming that's the end of his Super Rugby season?

    It's was confirmed in an article that Nock is gone for the rest of the season.

    They'll need three halfbacks.. Does anyone know who has taken his place? They might as well get a run ahead of Pulu at some stage. It's a good chance to evaluate a potential 2020 squad member.



  • @Duluth Time for some Insta-stalking.



  • I gues it'll be Lewis Gjaltema/Harrison Levien?



  • @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    Edit: and if you swapped the 9/10 combos, Blues win that game by 30 points.

    Haha you could say the same in a Crusaders vs Canes game aswell. Give the Canes Franks and Whitelock for Blackwell and Toomaga Allen and the Canes win easy. But they don't have them so those sort of statements are pointless.

    The one big thing the Blues lack is game smarts but I don't think they need a Perenara or Barrett to get to that level. They have the experience across the park to compete with any team. I mean for one they should have given the Canes more respect and taken the points when they were on offer. They could have been 13 points up, instead they risked it and found themselves tied 7 all.

    It's also guys like Parsons that prevent the Blues from reaching that next level IMO. He just has no impact whatsoever and it's things like his laboured pass that are preventing the Blues from taking those little half gaps, thus stopping them from asserting pressure on the opposition.

    Don't get me wrong I think the Blues are nearly there but they just need a couple more impactful players that bring that energy and special skillset, especially at hooker I.e a Taylor or Coles type.



  • @African-Monkey said in Blues 2019:

    I gues it'll be Lewis Gjaltema/Harrison Levien?

    According to my sauces there's a halfback from Tasman who'll be getting a call...



  • @Gunner isn't Grooby injured? @Chris-B



  • @KiwiMurph Yeah - on the radio last week they said he was gone for the season with a knee injury.



  • Wonder if he's interested in working for the Blues? Could be a great signign

    https://www.the42.ie/doug-howlett-munster-4644188-May2019/?utm_source=shortlink



  • Here’s a question I have been pondering..!
    In the same way the warriors have missed Johnson,Kata & Blair this season and in the last 2 games..sorry to cross could but I needed some sort of comparison.
    Was James Parsons realistically missed on Saturday evening..?



  • @Steven-Harris Parsons was a huge reason why the Chiefs won the first game between the two teams - he threw the intercept to Weber for his try and he missed a one-on-one tackle with ALB for his try.



  • @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2019:

    Here’s a question I have been pondering..!
    In the same way the warriors have missed Johnson,Kata & Blair this season and in the last 2 games..sorry to cross could but I needed some sort of comparison.
    Was James Parsons realistically missed on Saturday evening..?

    Moulds didn't have a great game though, if we apply the same standards we are holding Parsons too. Dodgy lineout throwing back.



  • @Kirwan I actually thought Moulds scrummed well, did not get ragged dolled at tackle time, and made his tackles..2 errors one a throw in, and one where he should have dived on the ball but elected to pick it up but knocked it on..that does not constitute a bad game in my opinion..
    I have seen Parsons have 2 absolute shocking games in a row against the chiefs and the Highlanders this year where he got rag dolled but that’s norm ,side entry infractions, missed tackles and offside penalties ..
    Just seems to me there are players that are well supported on this forum that can make 2 or 3 errors in a game but the never get put under the same spotlight..
    I personally think if the Blues has eliminated some of their errors by 20% Saturday nights game would have been won much more comfortably..
    I think it’s a very fair question to ask.



  • @Steven-Harris He made more mistakes than that, I was wanting him to stand up and prove the selectors wrong. Didn't do that IMO, and let the pressure off the Chiefs in some real key times.

    I'm in the Parsons must go camp, by the way.



  • I must say Apisai has improved this year - admittedly he started from a very low base - he was not Super standard last year but has been much better this year. He had good impact off the bench last week including being part of that huge scrum under the own Blues posts and nailing the final lineout throw for the bonus point try.





  • When the weather is a bit damp, there’s heaps of grip on the ball, it makes throwing a shit load harder. Harris also had one not straight anda bunch of line out ball got attacked by Blues.
    What Steve said is absolutely true. If Moulds had more game time and remember he’s not even been on the bench for the last couple of weeks he would’ve been more match hardened. His tackles were strong, clean outs solid.
    What I like is his ability in the tackle to present really good ball.
    Moulds deserved more game time than he’s had. Apisai is playing well at last he’s got his future on the line.



  • @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2019:

    @Kirwan I actually thought Moulds scrummed well, did not get ragged dolled at tackle time, and made his tackles..2 errors one a throw in, and one where he should have dived on the ball but elected to pick it up but knocked it on..that does not constitute a bad game in my opinion..
    I have seen Parsons have 2 absolute shocking games in a row against the chiefs and the Highlanders this year where he got rag dolled but that’s norm ,side entry infractions, missed tackles and offside penalties ..
    Just seems to me there are players that are well supported on this forum that can make 2 or 3 errors in a game but the never get put under the same spotlight..
    I personally think if the Blues has eliminated some of their errors by 20% Saturday nights game would have been won much more comfortably..
    I think it’s a very fair question to ask.

    You're talking Parsons? Not seeing too much defending of him. He's pretty much universally regarded as hard working but NPC level at best from what I see on here.



  • Moulds has to be close to the most talked about Blues player on this board this year.



  • @Dice said in Blues 2019:

    Moulds has to be close to the most talked about Blues player on this board this year.

    A player who has signed overseas.



  • @Steven-Harris Moulds was pretty good. Disappointing that some can’t acknowledge this. In a game that saw a shit load of mistakes all over the park his two mistakes were relatively unimportant and he was constructive around the field. Just to remind some of you of other more critical mistakes that let the pressure off...Akira dropping the ball from an uncontested attacking lineout, Faiane running away from his support and knocking the ball on in multiple attacking situations, Plummer who was quite good but can’t kick goals, Ruru who is slow and couldn’t execute his box kicks, Tuipulotu’s non tackle on the fast running elusive Ta’avao, Nonu who turned into traffic at every opportunity (AB discussions must be over) Rieko who decided passing on his goal line under pressure was a good idea. The only reason the Blues won was because the Chiefs are a broken team. This was a game between the also-rans. For all their endeavours, most of the Blues important mistakes on Saturday came from their so called leaders.



  • @kev said in Blues 2019:

    @Steven-Harris Moulds was pretty good. Disappointing that some can’t acknowledge this. In a game that saw a shit load of mistakes all over the park his two mistakes were relatively unimportant and he was constructive around the field. Just to remind some of you of other more critical mistakes that let the pressure off...Akira dropping the ball from an uncontested attacking lineout, Faiane running away from his support and knocking the ball on in multiple attacking situations, Plummer who was quite good but can’t kick goals, Ruru who is slow and couldn’t execute his box kicks, Tuipulotu’s non tackle on the fast running elusive Ta’avao, Nonu who turned into traffic at every opportunity (AB discussions must be over) Rieko who decided passing on his goal line under pressure was a good idea. The only reason the Blues won was because the Chiefs are a broken team. This was a game between the also-rans. For all their endeavours, most of the Blues important mistakes on Saturday came from their so called leaders.

    Interesting to note that those players you singled out above are also players that have, in the past, be cited as examples of poor team selection by the coach if they weren't used.
    Maybe the coaches see error rates at training?



  • @Crucial said in Blues 2019:

    @kev said in Blues 2019:

    @Steven-Harris Moulds was pretty good. Disappointing that some can’t acknowledge this. In a game that saw a shit load of mistakes all over the park his two mistakes were relatively unimportant and he was constructive around the field. Just to remind some of you of other more critical mistakes that let the pressure off...Akira dropping the ball from an uncontested attacking lineout, Faiane running away from his support and knocking the ball on in multiple attacking situations, Plummer who was quite good but can’t kick goals, Ruru who is slow and couldn’t execute his box kicks, Tuipulotu’s non tackle on the fast running elusive Ta’avao, Nonu who turned into traffic at every opportunity (AB discussions must be over) Rieko who decided passing on his goal line under pressure was a good idea. The only reason the Blues won was because the Chiefs are a broken team. This was a game between the also-rans. For all their endeavours, most of the Blues important mistakes on Saturday came from their so called leaders.

    Interesting to note that those players you singled out above are also players that have, in the past, be cited as examples of poor team selection by the coach if they weren't used.
    Maybe the coaches see error rates at training?

    What?

    There was an article by RugbyPass a week or so ago citing that Faiane had among the lowest error rate in the comp for a midfielder. He made errors against the Chiefs but it was one game.

    Plummer had a great game around the field. Sure his goal kicking needs work and he has a tendancy to get charged down but he's a 20 year old rookie ffs. The exciting thing is there looks to be plenty to work with.

    Ruru - whilst he has his weaknesses - was still a huge improvement on Pulu's shocking effort the week prior v Canes.



  • JK accidentally confirmed on Breakdown tonight that Scrafton is off to the Hurricanes next season. Which is annoying as he was obviously to me the best 5 lock in the squad. Sadly injuries and coach preferences for the too soft Goodhue and the too short C-T early on meant he did not get a chance to prove it till now. The question for next year now is who to replace him. Young Jacob Pierce is in the squad but always injured and hardly even plays for Harbour so its hard to judge if he is up to it. My hope would be that they are chasing Olmstead. James Tucker from Waikato was with them briefly preseason and I would be fine with picking him up. I rate young Jamie Lane from Ponsonby but need to see him play more rep rugby. He has signed for Auckland. Signing Scrafton and Laupepe for next year will give the canes a bit more size and steel in the middle row.



  • @Daffy-Jaffy I wonder if Pari-Pari Parkinson is heading north?


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