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  • StargazerS Offline
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    France

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    @stargazer Mobile pack, esp. front row. Not much subtlety in backs.

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    @pakman Agree, although I like both wingers. It's a pity Fofana is injured.

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    Springboks (in order of name, surname, province, Test caps, Test points):

    15 Willie le Roux (Wasps, England, 50, 60 - 12t)
    14 Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks , 4, 15 - 3t)
    13 Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 37, 50 - 10t)
    12 Damian de Allende (DHL Western Province, 34, 20 - 4t)
    11 Aphiwe Dyantyi (Xerox Golden Lions, 10, 30 - 6t)
    10 Handré Pollard (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 36, 299 - 3t, 55c, 55p, 3d)
    9 Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England, 20, 15 - 3t)
    8 Warren Whiteley (Xerox Golden Lions, 22, 15 - 3t)
    7 Duane Vermeulen (Unattached, 43, 15 - 3t)
    6 Siya Kolisi (captain, DHL Western Province, 38, 25 - 5t)
    5 Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England, 26, 5 - 1t)
    4 Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Western Province, 43, 20 - 4t)
    3 Frans Malherbe (DHL Western Province, 26, 0)
    2 Malcolm Marx (Xerox Golden Lions, 21, 20 - 4t)
    1 Steven Kitshoff (DHL Western Province, 34, 5 - 1t)

    Replacements:
    16 Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Western Province, 23, 10 - 2t)
    17 Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks, 6, 0)
    18 Vincent Koch (Saracens, England, 10, 0)
    19 RG Snyman (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 9, 0)
    20 Francois Louw (Bath Rugby, England, 62, 45 - 9t)
    21 Embrose Papier (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 5, 0)
    22 Elton Jantjies (Xerox Golden Lions, 30, 223 - 2t, 42c, 43p)
    23 Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France, 4, 10 - 2t)

    Oops! | SA Rugby
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    Faf and Willie back makes a big difference

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    @crucial said in France v South Africa:

    Faf and Willie back makes a big difference

    If only that side was available last Saturday

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    I don't like Duane Vermeaulen at no.7.
    He is one of the better no.8's in world rugby - well, at least in terms of how the Boks like to play - so playing him out of position makes no sense to me. I'd have Whiteley on the bench, Duane at 8 and Louw in at 6. (Kolisi to 7).

    Pity the angry giraffe (aka Etzebeth) is crocked but the rest of the team about as good as we can put together at this point.

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    Is De Jagger injured? Locks a little lightweight. At full strength, Vermuelin, Du Toit and Louw are probably best specialists in back row, but place needs to be made for Kolisi.

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    @pakman said in France v South Africa:

    Is De Jagger injured? Locks a little lightweight. At full strength, Vermuelin, Du Toit and Louw are probably best specialists in back row, but place needs to be made for Kolisi.

    I can't say with 100% certainty, but no, I don't believe Lood is injured.
    I think Rassie has gone for a more mobile pack this time - including a specialist loosie on the bench. Not sure why the big switch from last weekend where he overloaded on the beef... maybe he feels we can run the froggies off their feet? Which would be surprising. I believe there is rain in the Parisian air predicted for Saturday.

    But given that I was not offered the job of Bok head coach for reasons still unclear to me, I am going to have to work on the assumption that he knows best.

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    @billy-webb said in France v South Africa:

    But given that I was not offered the job of Bok head coach for reasons still unclear to me, I am going to have to work on the assumption that he knows best.

    You do realise that SARU monitor posts here and have probably assessed your knowledge and ability?

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    @crucial said in France v South Africa:

    @billy-webb said in France v South Africa:

    But given that I was not offered the job of Bok head coach for reasons still unclear to me, I am going to have to work on the assumption that he knows best.

    You do realise that SARU monitor posts here and have probably assessed your knowledge and ability?

    As have we.

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    @billy-webb said in France v South Africa:

    But given that I was not offered the job of Bok head coach for reasons still unclear to me, I am going to have to work on the assumption that he knows best.

    Did the same assumption apply to P Diddy and other previous coaches? Assistant coaches like Stick?

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    @crucial said in France v South Africa:

    @billy-webb said in France v South Africa:

    But given that I was not offered the job of Bok head coach for reasons still unclear to me, I am going to have to work on the assumption that he knows best.

    You do realise that SARU monitor posts here and have probably assessed your knowledge and ability?

    If SARU knew how to switch on a kettle I'd be surprised, never mind actually accessing the digital revolution.

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    @machpants said in France v South Africa:

    @billy-webb said in France v South Africa:

    But given that I was not offered the job of Bok head coach for reasons still unclear to me, I am going to have to work on the assumption that he knows best.

    Did the same assumption apply to P Diddy and other previous coaches? Assistant coaches like Stick?

    Never had to worry about P Diddy. Fourie du Preez pretty much ran the show during his tenure.

    Stick: yup, same assumption applies 😉 I am a fan. Bit inexperienced when first thrust into the role, but loads of potential.

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    @machpants said in France v South Africa:

    @billy-webb said in France v South Africa:

    But given that I was not offered the job of Bok head coach for reasons still unclear to me, I am going to have to work on the assumption that he knows best.

    Did the same assumption apply to P Diddy and other previous coaches? Assistant coaches like Stick?

    I forgot the old 'P-Diddy'. Best coach nickname on the Fern.

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    @crucial I thought it was P-Divvy?

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    @bones said in France v South Africa:

    @crucial I thought it was P-Divvy?

    I stand corrected. Of course.

    This oldtimers takes a few coffees to combat in the morning.

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    @crucial said in France v South Africa:

    @bones said in France v South Africa:

    @crucial I thought it was P-Divvy?

    I stand corrected. Of course.

    This oldtimers takes a few coffees to combat in the morning.

    Yeah - but P.Diddy works better. Can't believe it has taken us this long to come up with it.

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    @billy-webb said in France v South Africa:

    @crucial said in France v South Africa:

    @bones said in France v South Africa:

    @crucial I thought it was P-Divvy?

    I stand corrected. Of course.

    This oldtimers takes a few coffees to combat in the morning.

    Yeah - but P.Diddy works better. Can't believe it has taken us this long to come up with it.

    When "Divvy" means total idiot in England I feel you may be wrong.

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    Sky sport saying they will show this game soon. Hope so

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    France's number 14 did a beautiful break out from his own 22, then stuffed up the last pass (partially due to poor support lines)

    Doesn't matter in the end, France score from resulting lineup. 14-9 France, KTC

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    France new jerseys are cool. Boks should be wearing green.

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    Halftime France 16-South Africa 9. Good game in the rain

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    France 23 SA 19 at 57minutes
    SA with the momentum

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    @kiwimurph said in France v South Africa:

    France new jerseys are cool. Boks should be wearing green.

    Not a fan of the tricolour sleeve but glad to see the old school colour jersey with white shorts a nd red socks

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    bein Sports:
    France lead SA 26-22, SA seem to score in the corner in minute 82, but Owens goes to the TMO. bein Sports terminates feed and starts advertisements

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    Feel bad for France. Boks score in the 85th min to steal it at the death

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    @pn

    Good.

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    Commentators had even given the game to France talking about what a great armistice day gesture it would be.Nek minute..credit to the Boks for showing composure.

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    @pn don't, take the win as a sign your team got up and fought to the end.

    An ugly win is better than any type of loss.

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    @pn said in France v South Africa:

    Feel bad for France. Boks score in the 85th min to steal it at the death

    The French wing just had to knock the ball in field and then run the ball out at the end. Hard to know how much time was left I guess. France put up a good fight but South Africa did look the better team.

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    @hydro11 said in France v South Africa:

    @pn said in France v South Africa:

    Feel bad for France. Boks score in the 85th min to steal it at the death

    The French wing just had to knock the ball in field and then run the ball out at the end. Hard to know how much time was left I guess. France put up a good fight but South Africa did look the better team.

    Really? I thought France looked the best they’ve been in a while. Confrontational at the ruck, working hard in the middle of the field and not shirking the grunt.

    Well done to the Boks though to get it at the death.

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    @act-crusader said in France v South Africa:

    @hydro11 said in France v South Africa:

    @pn said in France v South Africa:

    Feel bad for France. Boks score in the 85th min to steal it at the death

    The French wing just had to knock the ball in field and then run the ball out at the end. Hard to know how much time was left I guess. France put up a good fight but South Africa did look the better team.

    Really? I thought France looked the best they’ve been in a while. Confrontational at the ruck, working hard in the middle of the field and not shirking the grunt.

    Well done to the Boks though to get it at the death.

    Agreed. France looked better than anything I recall recently. The Boks remain an enigma to me. Something good is definitely incubating, but just when you think it is going to come together they mix in sloppy and stupid play.

    Elton Jantjes not finding the touchline from the penalty just before the hooter was an absolute shocker. Boks massively lucky, by a second or two to get an ongoing crack.

    But then big ups to them for being composed and clinical to get the winning try.

    As I said... a real enigma

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    @steven-harris

    Who was the commentator? Sorry to say, but I thought he struggled quite a bit on his own. Quite late in calling who had the ball.

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    The French 14 Thomas butchered a load of chances by seeking contact

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    @arhs said in France v South Africa:

    @steven-harris

    Who was the commentator? Sorry to say, but I thought he struggled quite a bit on his own. Quite late in calling who had the ball.

    Not everyone has the luxury of Justin Marshall to fall back on for some expert comments

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    @mn5 you should see if you can get your Justin Marshall obsession on every thread.

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    @bones said in France v South Africa:

    @mn5 you should see if you can get your Justin Marshall obsession on every thread.

    Boomfa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    @arhs not to sure whom the guy was,I watch a bit of the Gallagher Premiership and have not heard this fella before,sounded like a caller that had come across from another code..and yes you are right,it’s a bit of a tough gig to call a game on your own..

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    He also pronounced the names of some SA players like du Toit and de Allende like they were French names. It was strange to hear.

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