Taranaki vs Northland



  • Moving on to Taranaki now. Here’s hoping we ditch the Whangarei Boys High 2nd XV routine and actually play like we’re capable.

    J-Deb back to 10 please. Hopefully some of our wounded warriors are back in contention this week as well.

    Tough ask down there, but if we pull our finger out of our ass we can get back on track.



  • @J77 yeah I have only watched the 'highlights', which I think will be sufficient for me!

    Amazing how things can get turned about so quickly, a scratchy but solid start in week 1, then physically beaten up in round 2, and 'naki wont be any easier. We need to get some confidence for hosting HB the following week, otherwise we could be staring down the barrel after round 4!

    Do wonder if there is a bit of a mental issue with Auckland, we always seem to be dominated physically.

    Sounds like Caird needs a start, J-Deb back to 10...how many more weeks for Robinson, might be too late to salvage anything.



  • Auckland cleaned out well ( or illegally ), we didn't - lost so many rucks, or ended up with really slow ball. Their line speed was good and some of our backs looked off the pace running sideways - disappointed with Johnson at centre, his fumble to give the intercept early on was poor. That said when you are going backwards its hard to look good.

    Its requires a massive turn around and we don't have the cattle the All Blacks have. So big week for Coaches - we need to work on speed - doing things quicker and cleaning out better, and making sure we have the best team on the field to start with.



  • Team to face Taranaki:

    1. Ross Wright - Wellsford
    2. Jordan Olsen - Mid Northern
    3. Jack Straker - Kamo
    4. Sam Caird - OBM
    5. Josh Goodhue - United Kawakawa/Moerewa
    6. Sam McNamara - Waipu
    7. Matt Matich - Western Sharks
    8. Jaycob Matiu - Hora Hora
    9. Sam Nock - Kerikeri
    10. Jack Debreczeni - Eastern
    11. Pisi Leilua - Waipu
    12. Blake Hohaia - Kamo
    13. Matt Johnson - OBM
    14. Jordan Hyland - Wellsford
    15. Scott Gregory - Hikurangi

    REPLACEMENTS
    16. Paddy Jo Atkins - Wellsford
    17. Corey Te Whata-Colley - Western Sharks
    18. Isileli Tu'ungafasi - Mid Northern
    19. Sean Sweetman - Wellsford
    20. Aorangi Stokes - OBM
    21. Levien Harrison - OBM (Debut)
    22. Dan Hawkins - OBM
    23. Renata Roberts-Te Nana - OBM

    Unavailable due to Injury

    • Tamati Tua
    • Tom Robinson
    • Rene Ranger
    • Temo Mayanavanua
    • Kane Jacobson



  • Average.

    If Taranaki don’t get up by 20+ I’ll be pleasantly surprised. They’ll have a field day through our midfield with Hohaia back there. Could get ugly.

    Hard to get excited about this mob this year.



  • @J77 looks better this week with J-Deb running things, but mid-field is a worry.

    I'd like them to try Hyland at 13, Gregory could play wing then put Rae at 15...or put Gregory in the mid-field and Rae at FB, we need a bit of spark in the mid-field and Gregory or Hyland (both would be better) could provide that.

    While not expecting to win this (would like to obviously) we simply must play well and pick up at least a BP and start building for the rest of the season, let this one through with another soft performance like last week and we can pretty much write this season off already.



  • @taniwharugby J Deb at 10 is definitely a positive.

    However, that midfield looks average. I agree with your suggestions. Hell I’d take Rene Ranger on crutches over what we have! Plus why the hell is Hawkins anywhere near the squad this week?

    Hate to be the negative nancy, as it’s still early in the campaign, but Auckland (and even Southland to a lesser degree) exposed some areas where we could become victims of other pastings throughout the season.

    Be happy to eat my words, but all I see is mediocrity at the moment.



  • @J77 thought we looked much better against SOuthland (granted they are a far inferior team to Auckland) fairly well drilled but just lacking the polish required to finish alot of our plays.

    Whereas Auckland, I think we just struggle with them, both physically and mentally...I think we are much better than we showed v Auckland & Southland, but we need to start proving it.

    Too often over the years we have showed glimpses or promise, only to fall short time and time again.

    Other teams like Tasman, HB, BOP, Manawatu, even Southland (shield wins) have had periods of awesome, yet we seem to plod along, struggling to stay in the middle of the road, often veering off into the ditch, right ourselves briefly and then back to the ditch, never finding our way into the fastlane.

    Man what I'd give to pick up the Shield in my lifetime!



  • @taniwharugby said in v Taranaki:

    yet we seem to plod along, struggling to stay in the middle of the road, often veering off into the ditch, right ourselves briefly and then back to the ditch, never finding our way into the fastlane.

    Perfect way to describe it. Even 2017 when Jack Goodhue was on deck and we had some good results, the wheels came off and we relied on Hawke’s Bay (of all bloody teams!) to give us a leg up to the semis.

    We’ve just never got away from that battler tag, to being actual contenders. Hard to think it’ll ever change in all honesty.



  • 1 Reuben O'Neill
    2 Ricky Riccitelli
    3 Donald Brighouse
    4 Tupou Vaa'i
    5 Mitchell Brown (c)
    6 Kaylum Boshier
    7 Lachlan Boshier
    8 Pita-Gus Sowakula
    9 Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    10 Daniel Waite
    11 Kini Naholo
    12 Teihorangi Walden
    13 Sean Wainui
    14 Waisake Naholo
    15 Jayson Potroz

    Reserves:
    16 Scott Mellow
    17 Chris Gawler
    18 Kyle Stewart
    19 Jesse Parete
    20 Tom Florence
    21 Lisati Milo-Harris
    22 Regan Verney
    23 Jackson Ormond

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/sport/115233657/former-all-black-waisake-naholo-returns-for-yarrows-taranaki-bulls-first-home-game



  • @J77 couldn’t agree more about the mediocrity comment. We looked looked slow, played without intent and some players just looked average. However start of the season and maybe they still have their training wheels on. We need to see a lot more energy and some straight and hard running - especially from the backs.



  • @taniwharugby we have yet to have our golden period. If you look at our injured list this year you have to say we are well below strength. That said the performance against Auckland was us veering well into the ditch. A soulless effort. The first five selection, the complete submission at ruck time, the backline playing well behind the advantage line, and some really poor individual mistakes. We looked a lot better against Southland but I still remember the two long range tries we gave away - no cover maybe due to the lack of energy we saw in the Auckland game. Just hope that the team and coaches take a look at what other teams are delivering and can lift - they need to.



  • @J77 said in v Taranaki:

    We’ve just never got away from that battler tag, to being actual contenders. Hard to think it’ll ever change in all honesty.

    Still think we can but maybe not this year. I would be satisfied with a team that competes for 80 mins, plays with energy and innovation, and is smart. I remember when Bryce Woodward had his second stint as coach, how the team played attacking entertaining rugby. Really enjoyed watching that team.



  • @kev said in v Taranaki:

    @J77 said in v Taranaki:

    We’ve just never got away from that battler tag, to being actual contenders. Hard to think it’ll ever change in all honesty.

    Still think we can but maybe not this year. I would be satisfied with a team that competes for 80 mins, plays with energy and innovation, and is smart. I remember when Bryce Woodward had his second stint as coach, how the team played attacking entertaining rugby. Really enjoyed watching that team.

    Hope so Kev. I guess my opinions are tinged with frustration and a bit of jealousy as I look at other teams of similar status to us performing well.

    Just about every team in this comp over both divisions have had recent golden runs, and that’s including Southland with their shield glories. When you look at it we’re the only ones who’ve been left behind. Yep we’ve scraped into that fourth spot three times since 2014, but that’s about it.

    I only come across as a bit pissed purely because I know we are capable of much better.



  • After watching Otago and Hawkes Bay on Thursday night we have to find another level..

    I am totally concerned about tomorrow’s game against the Naki, they have so much super rugby talent to call on compared to our boys, not to mention a couple of All Blacks in TTT and Naholo.

    I think we will be lucky to stay within 20..Hawkes Bay,BOP and Taranaki you can lock in in terms of semi finalists in my opinion..and then Otago probably favoured to get that 4 place.

    One player I thought we could cover was Ranger, but his absence in the midfield is there for all to see especially at Mitre 10 Cup level.
    Also Tom Robinson gave us so much energy in the first few games last despite getting injured..
    Can only 🙏we bring some sort of physicality tomorrow



  • That’s why you start with Ross.



  • A good start from Northland.

    Good handling, direct forward play, a couple of breaks, good continuity...

    6 minutes down, can we keep this standard up for another 74?



  • Poor discipline



  • That is the dumb shit we can’t afford to do!

    Had Naki under huge pressure 5 from their own line, then give away 2 dumb, needless penalties to relieve the pressure on them.



  • TTT played that on the ground with his feet prior to that try.



  • Lucky.



  • @taniwharugby said in v Taranaki:

    TTT played that on the ground with his feet prior to that try.

    Yes should be penalty. They always miss that.



  • is that wind really that strong?



  • Hohaia not having impact with his runs.



  • NOck has a very quick pass, but he spends alot of time with his head up looking at scrums.



  • @taniwharugby got to coach that out. Make decisions get on with it.



  • man our discipline is average (although ref let them go straight off feet which he pinged us for)



  • superb passage of defence, ending with a great t/o by Matich



  • Haven’t had the ball for 10+ minutes, soon as we get it we kick it back and we’re defending again....



  • Better physicality by our guys. But they are breathing heavy.



  • Hohaia pushing very hard on defence.



  • damn, big loss with HYland going off



  • Fucking Johnson rushed up out of the line, took no one leaving a gaping hole for hem to run through.



  • @Gunner Johnson has had a poor start to the season.



  • our bombs are going far too deep, we cant contest them...kick long and deep or much shorter



  • Here comes the slide..



  • @kev yea, really struggling to see his up side...

    How far away is Tua?

    Fuck sakes we’re unravelling.

    Unforced error turned into an easy 7 points now.



  • @J77 yup...

    not sure the wind looks as strong as they were saying??

    NOw Matich off too...this gonna be ugly



  • those are the kind of boxies we should be doing



  • We are lacking punch in backline. JB is running and looking for runners.

    Need to get ball and hold for some phases.


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