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@SouthernMann said in Northland v Otago:

@frugby said in Northland v Otago:

@SouthernMann said in Northland v Otago:

This experiment of Whaanga on the wing needs to stop.

I don't rate it at all... having said that, need to go out and get some actual wingers for next season, because every 'actual' winger we tried was atrocious.

At least Whaanga can guarantee decent carrying, decent aerial ability, and (generally) good defence. No doubt his long-term home is in the midfield though.

I'm firm we do not recruit. Too expensive. Kyan Rangitutia is a decent up and coming winger. Is only 19. Jeremiah Asi was out for the whole year. Nareki, of course missed most of the year. The NPC is not a competition you recruit seasoned players for. Whaanga's future is as about a 105 - 110 kg centre. Player who can stand in the tackle and off-load. He should be a similar build to SBW. Not a winger.

Guess it depends what you want to do, but I actually think as you eluded to in the other thread next year we should actually have the squad to have a crack at things. That window is only going to be a one year opportunity I think (though a good new coach might get way more out of the players of course)... I would personally bury my head in the sand and would recruit a winger. Bring the Junkyard Dawg to the glasshouse!

Just watching this game now. I felt like last week BOP didn't use their backline enough against Wellington, lots of predictable pick and go's without a lot of deception. Totally different against Northland, playing with a lot more width and variety.

Cashmore is really good at organizing a backline. He plays with zero hesitation, either directly attacking the line or otherwise quickly transferring the ball to his outsides to give them plenty of space to work with. Smart and silky player.

i expected more this season . . . decent squad and decent coach
definitely thought a 500 team
but it's taken them so long to get organised that the seasons f'd
more disappointed than usual . . haha

Problem is, it still comes back to the individual ref or TMO view on what constitutes 'foul play' which I think many cards/penalties we have seen in recent years are not.

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@cgrant said in Waikato v Northland:

Mathis is talented but his size could limit his aspirations. He should convert to 2nd five : he has speed to burn and good hands.

7s program?

Enjoyed the game. I had Taniwha in my picks etc, and was feeling completely neutral. Then I started to feel for Southland in first half, getting whipped, so started to cheer fot them. Bugger me didn't know my support was so essential! Genuinely both stoked for Southland fans, and feel for Northland ones at same time.
I will say again, I think Jamie Joseph must be quite pleased with what he seeing from some of these young fellas from Southland and Otago!

@taniwharugby agree, embarrassing for us. We got opened up on the inside repeatedly. The lineout missed on attack several times. Whether it is the players or coaches that will need to be fixed. And, a lot of one on one tackles missed. But the thing that really annoys me. And it’s happened twice. We get a penalty with time up, just outside the 22, bonus point on offer and we take a quick tap. Kick to the corner, play the % for a bonus point every time. Until we can stop being just plain dumb, we won’t improve.

@taniwharugby great to see his excitement at scoring as well.

I’ve just watched those highlights, totally bloody robbed with the forward pass call, and not going upstairs for the ‘held up’ try.

Forward pass call can sort of be forgiven, tight calls happen in games, but the non review of the other one is pure incompetence and not good enough.

@kiwiinmelb

Big brother Ken was the hardman. Any winger who stepped inside him knew what was coming―coathanger...their choice.

@taniwharugby said in Northland 2024:

Northland have scored 131 points so far, with only 39 of them in the 2nd half, and 0 in the last 2 2nd halves.

Wow who knew Northland are up there with the ABs!

After The Bay - Moulds, Hallam-Eames, Milo-Harris 3 Each
After NH - Moorby 3, Murray & Matich 2 each

Season:
Rob Rush 8
Mau'u 8
Murray 8
Moorby 6
Adams 5
Caird 5
Hallam-Eames 5
Milo-Harris 5
Matich 3
Nock 3
Reihana 3
Moulds 3
Goodhue 2
BKP 2

Don't need abs cover next year, as their last game October 28 latest, no t end of Nov like normal. They'll do full pre season, unless they have a deal

Moulds, Hallam Eames, Milo Harris. So close yet no cigar.

The try that Selby-Rickit scored would never have happened (reffing issues or not) back in the days when forwards actually had to pile into rucks. In some ways it was a consequence of the constant fanning out that happens now.

Moorby, Adams for that chip kick catch, Murray. Matich was good also. Harris was also there apart for that brain explosion at half time.

@J77 loosie is probably the one area we are served well currently, and even looking at the next line of players in club that were in and around the Dev squad and the age group ones, plenty to like there, plus the whispers of who I hear they are looking at too...

But we really need to be looking very hard at mid-field options (that dont include Blake) and probably a couple of tight forwards too.

@Kiwiwomble for large patches I thought Otago played well