Tasman v Auckland
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We won't win but happy to see Dabek get an opportunity off the bench as well as Tufuga. Scrafton injured again I see.
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I deleted the old post with the Auckland team.. something went wrong and it was screwing up the layout. No idea why.
1 Alex Hodgman (Suburbs, 7 caps)
2 Leni Apisai (Loaned, 7)
3 Marcel Renata (University, 39)
4 Jamie Lane (Ponsonby, 12)
5 Jack Whetton (Grammar TEC, 34)
6 Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa (Ponsonby, 8 )
7 Adrian Choat (Waitemata, 8 )
8 Akira Ioane (Ponsonby, 43)
9 Danny Tusitala (Ponsonby, 7)
10 Harry Plummer (Grammar TEC, 19)
11 Caleb Clarke (Suburbs, 17)
12 TJ Faiane – Co-C (Pakuranga, 35)
13 Tumua Manu (College Rifles, 19)
14 Tanielu Tele’a (Marist, 11)
15 Jordan Trainor (Ponsonby, 20)16 Robbie Abel (College Rifles, 14)
17 Jarred Adams (Suburbs, 13)
18 Marco Fepulea’i (Ponsonby, 14)
19 Presley Tufuga (Ponsonby, debut)
20 Aleks Dabek (Ponsonby, debut)
21 Jonathan Ruru (University, 18)
22 Daniel Kirkpatrick (University, 7)
23 Salesi Rayasi (Marist, 18)Unavailable due to injury: Peter-Chanel Tagaloa (head), Cameron Suafoa (shoulder), Hoskins Sotutu (ankle), Mike Sosene-Feagai (shoulder), Dalton Papalii (ankle), Lyndon Dunshea (knee), Blake Gibson (knee), Scott Scrafton (hand)
5 loosies injured
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@African-Monkey said in Ta$man v Auckland:
We won't win but happy to see Dabek get an opportunity off the bench as well as Tufuga. Scrafton injured again I see.
That looked like a nasty finger dislocation in the Wellington game. Tape can only do so much.
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When Auckland beat Ta$man last year it was mostly because of two things - a powerful performance from the locks and the kicking game
The locks last year were: Whetton, Tuipulotu and Lemalu off the bench.
Whetton, Lane and Tufuga (debut) are a step down. Lane may end up being a good player but he doesn't have the physicality for games like this yet.
Does anyone know much about Presley Tufuga?The kicking game was excellent last year. Jordan's poor positional play was exposed several times. This year he's on the wing and Auckland have not been kicking well.
Some of that has been the absence of a genuine fullback until last week. Also TJ's kicking has almost disappeared.. I think that's related to whatever is going wrong with the timing in attack
tldr: we're fucked
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@Duluth Yes - Big Patty T had a field day and our pack looked lightweight - in fact our whole team got overpowered. We've got a bit more muscle this year, but I wish we still had Shannon Frizell.
However, this looks pretty close to the best we can field. O'Malley missing off the bench.
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That Ta$man teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.
Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.
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Auckland vs Ta$man tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.
Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.
Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Ta$man could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.
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@shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:
Auckland vs Ta$man tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.
Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.
Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Ta$man could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.
If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging
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@Duluth said in Ta$man v Auckland:
Does anyone know much about Presley Tufuga?
Ponsonby lock. listed at 28 years old, 1.99m, 108kgs. Originally from Wellington (Poneke) where he made development teams. Been in Auckland for a few seasons making the B team this season and made one appearance off the bench last season for Southland vs BOP, I guess on loan? Always puts in a good reliable shift at club level so we will see how he goes at the next level. A tough ask to debut against Ta$man.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Though watching him play club locking next to Jamie lane he didn't appear to be as tall as 1.99m to me.
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@Cantab79 said in Ta$man v Auckland:
That Ta$man teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.
Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.
At full strength Ta$man is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.
Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Ta$man (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.
I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Ta$man signed them.
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@Chris-B said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Cantab79 said in Ta$man v Auckland:
That Ta$man teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.
Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.
At full strength Ta$man is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.
Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Ta$man (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.
I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Ta$man signed them.
Nankivell is out of CBHS so originally from Christchurch. Tim Perry originally from South Canterbury
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@Chris said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Chris-B said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Cantab79 said in Ta$man v Auckland:
That Ta$man teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.
Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.
At full strength Ta$man is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.
Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Ta$man (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.
I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Ta$man signed them.
Nankivell is out of CBHS so originally from Christchurch. Tim Perry originally from South Canterbury
I think @Chris-B is making a different point as yes a lot of those players are originally (before making their NPC debuts) from elsewhere (Makalio from Auckland, Taufua from Counties, Squire from Manawatu etc).
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@KiwiMurph said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Chris said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Chris-B said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Cantab79 said in Ta$man v Auckland:
That Ta$man teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.
Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.
At full strength Ta$man is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.
Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Ta$man (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.
I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Ta$man signed them.
Nankivell is out of CBHS so originally from Christchurch. Tim Perry originally from South Canterbury
I think @Chris-B is making a different point as yes a lot of those players are originally (before making their NPC debuts) from elsewhere (Makalio from Auckland, Taufua from Counties, Squire from Manawatu etc).
Yeah I understand his point Just adding where those 2 players are from originally as the original post to Chris B Mentioned the Canterbury - Ta$man movement for mitre10. Ta$man has been an asset to the Crusaders Region giving them a wider talent pool not just though Mitre 10 but having a 2nd Crusaders Academy run out of the Ta$man Region.
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@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:
Auckland vs Ta$man tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.
Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.
Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Ta$man could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.
If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging
Thanks for reminding me of our glorious win on your home turf!
But, I am worried, who from Hawkes Bay hurt you? I haven't seen this much hatred towards another team since @shark went on his war with the Chiefs.
@Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Ta$man Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)
