Barbarians: November 2019 Tour



  • Well this has flown under my radar...

    The Baabaas have a November tour, starting with a "home"game against Fiji at Twickenam on 16 November, followed by an away game against Brazil in Sao Paolo on 20 November, and then another away game against Wales at the Principality Stadium on 30 November.

    Delighted I have some more - hopefully - good rugby to enjoy.



  • A bit more info.

    Eddie Jones will coach the Baabaas for the game against Fiji on 16/11.
    Warren Gatland will coach the Baabaas against Wales on 30/11.

    It's unclear who will coach the team against Brazil.

    Springboks Lukhanyo Am, Makazole Mapimpi, Tendai β€œBeast” Mtawarira and Herschel Jantjies have already been confirmed for the Barbarians. Rory Best, Mathieu Bastereaud and Morne Steyn will also play for the Baabaas.

    The Barbarians v Wales game is a double header. The Barbarians Women's team will play Wales' women.



  • @Stargazer Gatland coaching the Baabaas against Wales! Now that is a surprise. Someone has a sense of humour πŸ™‚



  • I thought Gatland would be on the first plane back to Chiefs land, obviously has a few loose ends to sort out first. Wouldn’t be surprised if Gatland Jnr gets a run.



  • @chimoaus said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

    I thought Gatland would be on the first plane back to Chiefs land, obviously has a few loose ends to sort out first. Wouldn’t be surprised if Gatland Jnr gets a run.

    I imagine coaching the Baabaa's - as well as being a bloody fun time - would be a very nice little xmas bonus.



  • @Bones said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

    @chimoaus said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

    I thought Gatland would be on the first plane back to Chiefs land, obviously has a few loose ends to sort out first. Wouldn’t be surprised if Gatland Jnr gets a run.

    I imagine coaching the Baabaa's - as well as being a bloody fun time - would be a very nice little xmas bonus.

    Yeah I think they get a very nice bonus, didn’t an Aussie player get pulled up at the airport with their BaaBaas cash?



  • John Mitchell will join Eddie Jones in the Barbarians' coaching set-up for the game against Fiji and will then take over as head coach for the game against Brazil.



  • @Stargazer any kiwis lining up to play? There’s a whole bunch of Sth Africans, but no mention of the full squad from what I can find.



  • Schalk Brits, Tendai 'Beast' Mtawarira, Herchel Jantjies, Morne Steyn, Mapimpi, Am, Rory Best, Mathieu Bastereaud so far.



  • @scribe The Baabaas are always releasing the names of their squad members one by one (or two, three), like they're dripfeeding us the names. I haven't seen more names than posted earlier; only exception is Pumas & Jaguares prop Ramiro Herrera, whose name I had missed.

    If players' travel pictures on social media are anything to go by, there's a possibility that David Havili and Andrew Makalio? are in the squad (and Pete Samu), but that's a wild guess haha. I'm only sure of Samu being in London.

    Edited to add that Nigel Owens has received special dispensation from World Rugby to officiate the Wales v Baabaas game.



  • And ...... just as I finish editing my previous post, the Barbarians post the squad for their Autumn Tour (the emojis are theirs, not mine):

    FORWARDS πŸ’ͺπŸ’₯πŸ’ͺ
    Tendai MTAWARIRA πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ†
    Rory BEST☘️
    Enrique PIERETTO πŸ‡¦πŸ‡·
    Luke JONES πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί
    Matt PHILIP πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί
    Pete SAMU πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί
    Marco van STADEN πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦
    Josh STRAUSS 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
    Andrew MAKALIO (Uncapped)
    Campese MAAFU πŸ‡«πŸ‡―
    Hencus van WYK (Uncapped)
    Tyler ARDRON πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦
    Angus COTTREL (Uncapped)

    BACKS πŸ”₯✨πŸ”₯
    Makazole MAPIMPI πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ†
    Mathieu BASTAREAUD πŸ‡«πŸ‡·
    Lukhanyo AM πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ†
    Jano VERMAAK πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦
    David HAVILI πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ
    Morne STEYN πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦
    Santiago IGLESIAS πŸ‡¦πŸ‡·
    Curwin BOSCH πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦
    Billy MEAKES (Uncapped)
    Bautista EZCURRA πŸ‡¦πŸ‡·
    Andre ESTERHUIZEN πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦
    Joe POWELL πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί
    Dylan LEYDS πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦



  • Pretty hard to get too excited about that side - I guess WC year has struck, not exactly the Baabaa teams of yesteryear full of stars and typically just one uncapped player!



  • @Bones indeed. Lots of tickets still available and I go most years. Pretty sure I won’t go this year with that squad.



  • Am, Mapimpi and Mtawarira from the SA RWC squad and Havili, Makalio and Samu from The Nation of Tasman.

    Clearly Eddie and Mitch are picking winners! πŸ™‚



  • @chimoaus said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

    @Bones said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

    @chimoaus said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

    I thought Gatland would be on the first plane back to Chiefs land, obviously has a few loose ends to sort out first. Wouldn’t be surprised if Gatland Jnr gets a run.

    I imagine coaching the Baabaa's - as well as being a bloody fun time - would be a very nice little xmas bonus.

    Yeah I think they get a very nice bonus, didn’t an Aussie player get pulled up at the airport with their BaaBaas cash?

    Yep.

    **Wallabies trio escape ARU censure over cash stash

    Greg Growden
    March 28, 2011

    The Australian Rugby Union will take no action after three Wallabies were issued with infringement notices by the Australian Federal Police after failing to declare money to Customs officers. Matt Giteau, Adam Ashley-Cooper and Drew Mitchell were investigated by the AFP after not declaring more than $60,000 in cash to Customs when they returned to Sydney following the Wallabies' end-of-season tour last December. The money was earned when the trio played for the Barbarians at the end of the northern hemisphere tour. The players said they had forgotten to declare the money, and were fined $220 each by the AFP. An ARU spokesman yesterday said the union had made inquires on the matter. ''It is important to note it is not an offence to bring in to the country more than $10,000 in foreign currency,'' the spokesman said. ''The issue has been dealt with, and we consider the matter closed.''*
    *

    It is an offence not to declare over $10,000 hence the fine. I do wonder why they were paid in cash though? Avoiding the ATO with overseas earnings?



  • @Snowy I doubt anyone forgets they're carrying $20k



  • @antipodean Exactly.



  • @Stargazer No Herschel Jantjies and Schalk Brits?



  • @OomPB Schalk Brits was never mentioned in the Barbarians' media releases, but the absence of Hershell Jantjies surprises me. Haven't been able to find out why he isn't in the squad.





  • @OomPB Thanks, I must be getting blind!



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  • @Stargazer Why the fook are they playing a loose forward in the centres?



  • @Machpants Don't you mean prop? πŸ˜‚



  • Fiji

    1 Samuela Tawake (Manuwatu – Debut)
    2 Ratu Veremalua Vugakoto (Fijian Drua – 9 caps)
    3 Eroni Mawi (Fijian Drua – 12 caps)
    4 Temo Mayanavanua (Northland – debut)
    5 Sikeli Nabou (Counties Manukau – 6 caps)
    6 Mosese Voka (Fijian Drua – 9 caps)
    7 John Dyer (Fijian Drua – 1 cap)
    8 Eremasi Radrodro (Fijian Drua – 4 caps)
    9 Frank Lomani (Melbourne Rebels – 14 caps)
    10 Teti Tela (Queensland Reds – debut)
    11 Patrick Osborne (Canterbury – 9 caps)
    12 Serupepeli Vularika (Fijian Drua – 10 caps)
    13 Asaeli Tikoirotuma (North Harbour – 23 caps)
    14 Jiuta Wainiqolo (Fijian Drua – debut)
    15 Enele Malele (Fijian Drua – debut)

    Reserves
    16 Tevita Ikanivere (Fijian Drua – debut)
    17 Joeli Veitayaki (Fijian Drua – 6 caps)
    18 Mosese Ducivaki (Fijian Drua – 3 caps)
    19 Tevita Naqali (Fijian Drua – debut)
    20 Mesulame Kunavula (Edinburgh – debut)
    21 Peni Matawalu (Fijian Drua – debut)
    22 Caleb Muntz (Fijian Drua – debut)
    23 Cyril Reece (Fijian Drua – debut)

    .
    I was wondering what team Fiji could field, with all their regular test players back with their European clubs and unlikely to be released. So it's mostly Fijian Drua players from the NRC and some Mitre 10 Cup and SR players. Only one player from Europe.



  • @Stargazer reckon they could have got in touch with Nakarawa...



  • @Bones said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

    @Stargazer reckon they could have got in touch with Nakarawa...

    Beat me too it!

    It's live on Sky Sport 1, which is good (recording it, obvs!)



  • For anyone who can't watch the game.

    It's 14 - 12 to Fiji after 34 minutes. Two tries each, with one early Fijian "try" disallowed.



  • That's the half time score. As expected, not the best of games. Fiji looks the slightly better side; Baabaas look like a team who've only been together for less than a week (as they are).



  • Powell is such a bad halfback. Terrible kick, beautifully caught by Lomani, leads directly to a Fijian try. Why is Powell even there? There are way better halfbacks they could have picked.



  • Rory Best leaves the field. That was the last international game of his career.



  • Tendai Mtawarira has also left the field. Also the end to his international career.

    Just before, a second Baabaas try was disallowed.

    By the way, according to the commentators, the Fijian no. 23 is a brother of Sevu Reece.



  • It's 28 - 17 to Fiji after 67 minutes.



  • Fiji's John Dyer is named the MotM.



  • Full time: Barbarians 31 - 33 Fiji (5 tries each)



  • @Stargazer will check out the replay later this morning..how did Havilli play..?



  • Just watching the pre match. Martin Johnson thinks some Fijians might play for New Zealand.

    Gobsmacked. Speechless.



  • Haaaa at least the cipi tau doesn't go on forever like the haka. Thanks Brian Moore.



  • Pete Samu looks way meaner with a mullet.



  • @Steven-Harris Havili missed a few tackles and on at least three ocassions, he was the man tackling the try scorer on the tryline without being able to stop them from scoring. Not much he could do about that, those players should have been tackled earlier by his team mates, but he'll be unhappy about that. Both the Baabaas and Fiji missed way too many tackles.

    Havili was outstanding on attack. Three try assists and also directly involved in a fourth. Most defenders beaten of all players on the field. As visible on attack as he was (attacks often started with him or Andre Esterhuizen), as invisible was the no. 10 Curwin Bosch.

    Makalio was good when he came on in the second half; added some much needed energy at that stage. They said it was Rory Best's last game, so I assume Best won't play the other matches and Makalio may start the other games.

    Pete Samu was one of the best forwards, with Stockdale and Mtawarira also playing well, but John Dyer (Fiji) was the best forward overall and deserved that MotM.

    My main impression from the game was that the Baabaas team was quite average; just as you could expect with that line-up. Fiji played as well as they could, consisting of mainly third stringers; probably better than expected.

    Here are the stats of the game: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/match.cfm?season=2020&competition=1&match=8949


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