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  • sharkS Offline
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    Can't wait for this series. A chance to take some revenge in our best format. Anyone know how many in the touring squad?

    My best guess is 13, and for mine they'd probably be:

    Guppy
    Nicholls
    Kane
    Rosco
    Latham
    Phillips
    Neesham
    CDG
    Santner
    Sodhi
    Southee
    Jamieson
    Boult

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    @shark Not far away.

    I think probably Blundell for Phillips and Ferguson for either Sodhi or Jamieson - probably Ish.

    Edit: And, on reflection, I think they'd take at least 14 - and all of Ferguson, Sodhi and Jamieson.

    Bit of a question as to whether they take Timmy or Matt Henry. Matt supplanted Tim at the CWC.

    So some combination of all those names, but I'm doubtful on Phillips.

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    They usually take 14 don’t they?

    Add Ferg, and you’re pretty close.

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    I left Ferguson out because I hadn't heard he was fit. Is he fully fit?

    I like Phillips over Blundell in the shorter formats. He's a whippet in the field, can be devastating with the bat, bats up and down the order, gives you someone in the top five who can add a couple of overs and of course he covers the 'keeping duties (as does Blundell of course). In the back of my mind though is that Blundell has made every post a winner in test cricket, hit an unofficial ODI ton last year and probably doesn't fear the Aussies. Phillips' test debut 50 on the other hand was very fortuitous in that he had several let-offs, but it was at the SCG where two of the games will be played.

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    @Chris-B Sodhi has to go. Two games at the SCG.

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    @shark said in Chapple-Hadlee Series:

    I left Ferguson out because I hadn't heard he was fit. Is he fully fit?

    He is currently playing for Auckland vs ND in the Plunket Shield.

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    @Bovidae sure, but all the talk of the last few weeks was that he was being eased back in. So is he fully fit?

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    @shark I don't know but he bowled 37 overs across both innings. He is best suited to white ball cricket as the bowling load is less.

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    @shark said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    Can't wait for this series. A chance to take some revenge in our best format. Anyone know how many in the touring squad?

    My best guess is 13, and for mine they'd probably be:

    Guppy
    Nicholls
    Kane
    Rosco
    Latham
    Phillips
    Neesham
    CDG
    Santner
    Sodhi
    Southee
    Jamieson
    Boult

    Decent looking team that.

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    Ok so they've named 15.

    New Zealand ODI squad: Kane Williamson (c), Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Colin de Grandhomme, Lockie Ferguson, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson, Tom Latham, Jimmy Neesham, Henry Nicholls, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor.

    Henry and Ferguson in addition to my 13, and Blundell for Phillips, which isn't any kind of surprise or major disappointment for me.

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    That’s some serious depth in the fast bowling.

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    @shark said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    I left Ferguson out because I hadn't heard he was fit. Is he fully fit?

    I like Phillips over Blundell in the shorter formats. He's a whippet in the field, can be devastating with the bat, bats up and down the order, gives you someone in the top five who can add a couple of overs and of course he covers the 'keeping duties (as does Blundell of course). In the back of my mind though is that Blundell has made every post a winner in test cricket, hit an unofficial ODI ton last year and probably doesn't fear the Aussies. Phillips' test debut 50 on the other hand was very fortuitous in that he had several let-offs, but it was at the SCG where two of the games will be played.

    It's all ifs and buts, but Blundell was one of our few batsmen with recent runs on the board going into the CWC. I can recall suggesting they should play him. The way he's performed since he got his chance, I reckon they would now.

    It's one of the drawbacks of our conservative selection policy (which overall I strongly support) - we'll usually be late in getting new guns (like him and Jamieson) into the team.

    I have Phillips sort of grouped with Munro and Seifert - a decent option for T20s where you have to go fast from ball 1, but I'm less convinced in longer formats.

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    @Chris-B said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    @shark said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    I left Ferguson out because I hadn't heard he was fit. Is he fully fit?

    I like Phillips over Blundell in the shorter formats. He's a whippet in the field, can be devastating with the bat, bats up and down the order, gives you someone in the top five who can add a couple of overs and of course he covers the 'keeping duties (as does Blundell of course). In the back of my mind though is that Blundell has made every post a winner in test cricket, hit an unofficial ODI ton last year and probably doesn't fear the Aussies. Phillips' test debut 50 on the other hand was very fortuitous in that he had several let-offs, but it was at the SCG where two of the games will be played.

    It's all ifs and buts, but Blundell was one of our few batsmen with recent runs on the board going into the CWC. I can recall suggesting they should play him. The way he's performed since he got his chance, I reckon they would now.

    It's one of the drawbacks of our conservative selection policy (which overall I strongly support) - we'll usually be late in getting new guns (like him and Jamieson) into the team.

    I have Phillips sort of grouped with Munro and Seifert - a decent option for T20s where you have to go fast from ball 1, but I'm less convinced in longer formats.

    Kylo has jumped Ferg and Henry IMHO. He is the unicorn, unique point of difference compared to the others. And he's shown an ability to bat that rivals most of the middle order

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    I hope Stead and Larsen pick a T20 team that is suited to that format, not just rehashing the ODI squad. That means not selecting the likes of Southee.

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    @Bovidae said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    I hope Stead and Larsen pick a T20 team that is suited to that format, not just rehashing the ODI squad. That means not selecting the likes of Southee.

    No more super overs for Timmy!!!

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    @canefan Possibly Matt Henry, but I think Lockie has his own point of difference and was statistically our best bowler at CWC. Something like:

    Guppy, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, CdG, Jamieson, Santner, Ferguson, Boult.

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    @Chris-B said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    @canefan Possibly Matt Henry, but I think Lockie has his own point of difference and was statistically our best bowler at CWC. Something like:

    Guppy, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, CdG, Jamieson, Santner, Ferguson, Boult.

    Ferg has a stronger claim, I'd definitely consider him over Timmy

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    @canefan said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    Kylo has jumped Ferg and Henry IMHO. He is the unicorn, unique point of difference compared to the others. And he's shown an ability to bat that rivals most of the middle order

    Bowling on Aussie pitches will be a new experience for Jamieson so I wouldn't be expecting miracles just yet. Ferguson has to play. I bet Timmy does too.

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    @Bovidae said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    @canefan said in Chappell-Hadlee Series:

    Kylo has jumped Ferg and Henry IMHO. He is the unicorn, unique point of difference compared to the others. And he's shown an ability to bat that rivals most of the middle order

    Bowling on Aussie pitches will be a new experience for Jamieson so I wouldn't be expecting miracles just yet. Ferguson has to play. I bet Timmy does too.

    He's earned a shot. I hope they give him a go. His bounce will be prodigious on their pitches

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    @Bovidae Tim certainly has good form - won't surprise me if he plays instead of Jamieson and also wouldn't surprise me if Henry played instead of Jamieson.

    I reckon they've at least got the 15 spot on.

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