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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    I think every squad people post should be prefixed with either 'what I'd pick' versus 'what will be picked' often a big difference. We've got a coach who got in on a ‘continuity and experience’ ticket, I can see him picking a ‘continuity and experience’ team - recently the ABs coaches went for form rather than experience. Maybe that didn’t work so well at RWC in their minds. Expecially after many years of trusting experience did so well for them? So I think we will see very conservative selections, but I hope they are bold

    There's absolutely no reason why in this of all years a "form over experience" approach shouldn't be tried for most positions. If you look at the guys currently playing well, they're all pretty young guys either at the beginning of the SR or AB careers and who are likely to be at their peaks in 2023. Now is the perfect opportunity to take a punt on some of these guys and set them on the path to be the incumbents for 2023.

    We kinda of tried that last year to little success. 😉

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    @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    I think every squad people post should be prefixed with either 'what I'd pick' versus 'what will be picked' often a big difference. We've got a coach who got in on a ‘continuity and experience’ ticket, I can see him picking a ‘continuity and experience’ team - recently the ABs coaches went for form rather than experience. Maybe that didn’t work so well at RWC in their minds. Expecially after many years of trusting experience did so well for them? So I think we will see very conservative selections, but I hope they are bold

    There's absolutely no reason why in this of all years a "form over experience" approach shouldn't be tried for most positions. If you look at the guys currently playing well, they're all pretty young guys either at the beginning of the SR or AB careers and who are likely to be at their peaks in 2023. Now is the perfect opportunity to take a punt on some of these guys and set them on the path to be the incumbents for 2023.

    We kinda of tried that last year to little success. 😉

    That's why I said "this of all years" - we're not playing in a world cup in 2020. Start building the experience now so that in 2023 the guys who are in form now are also the guys with experience at the time.

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    @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    If the Bledisloe goes ahead it will basically be a full year since either team has played.

    Both teams with new coaches.

    Both teams with presumably a decent camp to prepare.

    Sounds fun.

    Good advertising opportunity too. If you were born the last time Australia held the Bledisloe, you're eligible to drink and vote this year!

    Nooooooooo advertising! Last thing I want to see are are a bunch of sheep doing a haka....

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    @Duluth said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    I just want to see the best players play in the rep teams with no bias

    I agree that's an ideal that should be aimed for

    In reality that's impossible.

    But yes I'd hope there was no conscious bias from a selector and hopefully robust arguments would minimise unconscious bias. It's always going to be there though.

    So I have your vote for selector then? Sign me up.

    There are a couple of others of my ilk on here too. None of them are from Canterbury (Yes I know what I just did).

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    @Snowy it's called unconscious bias, our media tall about it all the time.

    But I agree with you, there are some of us that can see past provincial bias 😎

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    @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Duluth said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy

    Better not perfect

    Nothing in rugby is perfect, the laws, the refs, the teams. I just want to see the best players play in the rep teams with no bias.

    Agree.

    Moody, Taylor, Alaalatoa, Whitelock, S.Barrett...

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    @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy it's called unconscious bias, our media tall about it all the time.

    But I agree with you, there are some of us that can see past provincial bias 😎

    Yes I know about unconscious bias, but it can be overcome with rational thought. You're not one of the people I would have picked to see past provincial bias...just saying.

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    @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy it's called unconscious bias, our media tall about it all the time.

    But I agree with you, there are some of us that can see past provincial bias 😎

    Yes I know about unconscious bias, but it can be overcome with rational thought. You're not one of the people I would have picked to see past provincial bias...just saying.

    he's from Northland, he's got no right to be biased about anything

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    Should start calling this place The Green Fern given how much recycling there is of jokes.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Duluth said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy

    Better not perfect

    Nothing in rugby is perfect, the laws, the refs, the teams. I just want to see the best players play in the rep teams with no bias.

    Agree.

    Moody, Taylor, Alaalatoa, Whitelock, S.Barrett...

    I really should have seen that coming.

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    @Snowy haha yea well I didnt think you were...😎

    Although I am usually ok pointing out when northland players are poos too.

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    @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy haha yea well I didnt think you were...😎

    Although I am usually ok pointing out when northland players are poos too.

    every week?

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by taniwharugby
    #725

    @mariner4life have a chat to your mate Gats!

    If its every week, so be it

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    Man this place is harsh. Pissing myself.

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    @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Should start calling this place The Green Fern given how much recycling there is of jokes.

    These jokes don’t write themselves. Carefully crafted after many years of testing. You know “experience over form”

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  • BonesB Online
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    Sometimes I think @KiwiMurph is actually Oscar the grouch. Then I just remember he's been a blues fan the last 15 or so years.

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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Sometimes I think @KiwiMurph is actually Oscar the grouch. Then I just remember he's been a blues fan the last 15 or do years.

    I'm just going to quote myself

    @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Man this place is harsh.

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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @Snowy it's all good, sure be some GCs on here, I mean if I was walking down the road and @mariner4life was on fire, I'd piss on him to help a brother out!

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    @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy it's all good, sure be some GCs on here, I mean if I was walking down the road and @mariner4life was on fire, I'd piss on him to help a brother out!

    my posting history suggests i'm always on fire you kinky fucker

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    @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Snowy it's all good, sure be some GCs on here, I mean if I was walking down the road and @mariner4life was on fire, I'd piss on him to help a brother out!

    my posting history suggests i'm always on fire you kinky fucker

    You have my attention...

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