Chiefs v Hurricanes
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No news, just wanted to start the thread
I'm looking forward to the battle of the locks
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Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
Assistant Referee 1: James Doleman
Assistant Referee 2: Angus Mabey
TMO: Glenn Newman -
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where's my cripple fight gif?
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Is Ben Lam still available for selection?
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@Bovidae Don't think so, but not 100% sure.
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Hurricanes
1 Fraser Armstrong
2 Dane Coles [cc]
3 Tyrel Lomax
4 James Blackwell
5 Scott Scrafton
6 Reed Prinsep
7 Du’Plessis Kirifi
8 Ardie Savea
9 TJ Perenara [cc]
10 Jackson Garden-Bachop
11 Ben Lam
12 Ngani Laumape
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Kobus Van Wyk
15 Jordie BarrettRESERVES:
16 Ricky Riccitelli
17 Ben May
18 Alex Fidow
19 Vaea Fifita
20 Devan Flanders/Liam Mitchell
21 Jamie Booth
22 Billy Proctor
23 Wes Goosenhttps://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/barrett-returns-for-hurricanes-clash-against-chiefs/
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The only positive in that line-up is the return of Jordie Barrett. I can't see the Canes win this game though. Some shit (non)selections.
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Looking at that Fifita seems to be classified as the third best lock (and at best that when it comes to the blindside flank position) given his selection ahead of a specialist lock in Mitchell. Mitchell in turn is selected as the possible cover for blindside ahead of specialist blindside Fifita. What have the selectors been adding to their drinking water to come up with that?
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Apparently, Gareth Evans has an ankle injury.
Thanks, Hurricanes, for never providing injury updates. Those updates would make things a lot clearer.
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Vince Aso also injured:
Head coach Jason Holland made four changes to that starting 15: Barrett returning for Chase Tiatia at fullback, wing Kobus van Wyk back for a benched Wes Goosen, centre Peter Umaga-Jensen for an injured Vince Aso (shoulder) and lock Scott Scrafton for Vaea Fifita who will come off the bench.
Aso’s was rated a minor injury by Gibbes while loose forward Gareth Evans will also sit out the match with a minor ankle problem.
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@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:
The only positive in that line-up is the return of Jordie Barrett. I can't see the Canes win this game though. Some shit (non)selections.
The Canes have a big issue with incompetent coaches (its not only the head coach. Gibbes is hopeless as well). The big plus is Tiatia is no where to be seen
Umaga-Jensen is a bit limited but with Jordie back the back should be stronger. But the forwards are worse than last week (and last week was bad). With another plodder in Ricky Riccitelli added to the forward packThe Chiefs should win and win well. And the shame is with even half decent coaches the Canes could put out a good side. I'm unsure why Coles doesn't speak up. These selections are also reflecting poorly on him
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Aso's super unlucky with injuries. Underrated player.
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Damian McKenzie, Sean Wainui, Tumua Manu, Quinn Tupaea, Etene Nanai-Seturo, Aaron Cruden, Brad Weber, Pita Gus Sowakula, Sam Cane (c), Lachlan Boshier, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Mitchell Brown, Nepo Laulala, Bradley Slater, Aidan Ross
Reserves: Samisoni Taukei’aho, Reuben O’Neill, Ross Geldenhuys, Tupou Vaa’i, Dylan Nel, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Kaleb Trask, Solomon Alaimalo
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@Duluth dunno how I feel about our chances with no ALB. I'm glad Slater is starting.
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Gallagher Chiefs Head Coach Warren Gatland has made five changes and one positional change to his twenty-three for the derby clash to kick off at 3.35pm.
Following a credible performance against the Crusaders last week, Gatland has named an unchanged forward pack. However, injury has forced Gatland’s hand to make changes to the side’s backline. Anton Lienert-Brown has been side-lined with concussion. Rookie Quinn Tupaea shifts into second five-eighth with Tumua Manu moving into the starting line-up at centre.
Electrifying fullback Damian McKenzie will run out for his 80th game in the Gallagher Chiefs jersey.
In the reserves, young lock Tupou Vaa’i and rookie loose forward Dylan Nel return to the twenty-three in the only two changes to the replacement forwards. After running out for Rotoiti Rugby Club last weekend, experienced halfback Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi returns to the twenty-three and is joined by fellow Bay of Plenty teammate Kaleb Trask. Waikato’s Solomon Alaimalo completes the line-up in jersey twenty-three.
Gatland said they need to apply their learnings from previous encounters to deliver the performance they are after.
“Last week against the Crusaders we put on a solid performance however a few crucial moments cost us the win in a tight battle. We need to execute those opportunities to gain the win.”
“There is a great rivalry between our two teams and the boys are eager to get one back after falling short before lockdown. The Hurricanes have some elusive attacking players and are a dangerous team with ball in hand. We know they will be refreshed and eager to get a win, just like us, so it will be a tight tussle and one we know families and fans will enjoy,” finished Gatland.
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Nankivell is listed to play club rugby again so obviously the coaches don't feel they need him in the 23. Wainui as midfield cover. I think 2nd 5 is Tupaea's best position so it will be interesting to see how he goes against Laumape.
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@Bovidae I rate him so high so I'm excited to see Quinn play 12.
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@Yeetyaah That is the position he played in schoolboy rugby.
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More baffling selections from the Canes management - obviously they can't see what everyone else can
I am sure it hasn't gone unnoticed that when the Blues selected a decent halfback their form turned around too
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Will the Chiefs even miss ALB. He's been anonymous in this comp so far.
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@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:
Hurricanes
1 Fraser Armstrong
2 Dane Coles [cc]
3 Tyrel Lomax
4 James Blackwell
5 Scott Scrafton
6 Reed Prinsep
7 Du’Plessis Kirifi
8 Ardie Savea
9 TJ Perenara [cc]
10 Jackson Garden-Bachop
11 Ben Lam
12 Ngani Laumape
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Kobus Van Wyk
15 Jordie BarrettRESERVES:
16 Ricky Riccitelli
17 Ben May
18 Alex Fidow
19 Vaea Fifita
20 Devan Flanders/Liam Mitchell
21 Jamie Booth
22 Billy Proctor
23 Wes Goosenhttps://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/barrett-returns-for-hurricanes-clash-against-chiefs/
It is notable that neither Fletcher Smith or Simon Hickey are not required in the matchday 23. At least Hickey is deemed good enough to command a starting spot in the Poneke Club's 1st XV.
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@Higgins Rayasi only good enough for club rugby too.
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@Higgins Simon Hickey has been signed for SR 2021; not for SRA.
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@Bones That one is hard to take considering a Saffa import is being preferred ahead of him
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@Higgins he's hobm, super players don't play for hobm.
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@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@Higgins Simon Hickey has been signed for SR 2021; not for SRA.
That means we have to stew on it until March next year before we can start fully expousing on the mystery of the signing.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@Higgins he's hobm, super players don't play for hobm.
They obviously don't have the sway with the powers that be that their cousins MSP over the release of players for club rugby.
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@Higgins oh no he's back playing this weekend. All I'm saying is hobm might as well be Hawkes Bay. Especially with the way they beat Wellington last week...
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@Bones Thank you for the comments!!!! Whislt still the deserving winners HOBM did score a couple of lengthy intercept tries as well as one that came from what looked like a decidedly forward pass!!!!!!!!. It must be conceded that a few of their players have been up in the Hawkes Bay but none of them have really established themselves as starters. Even Sheridan Rangihuna might find it a bit difficult ousting Folau Fakatava or Brad Weber from the number 9 jersey although being a Texan you will know who I would like to see wearing that particular jersey!!!!!!!!
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@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@Higgins Simon Hickey has been signed for SR 2021; not for SRA.
Are you certain this is the case?
Stuff article reads as if he is back now
Hickey returned home just before the Covid-19 pandemic with the ambition of playing Super Rugby again, and had his first training with the Hurricanes in Wellington on Wednesday. Hickey isn’t expected to be considered for the Hurricanes’ match-day 23 for several weeks as he readjusts to contact training. -
@KiwiMurph Hmm, the media release about his signing isn't clear about it either. Training with the squad doesn't, of course, mean he'll (be allowed to) play for them though. He wouldn't be the first SR player to train with the squad he'll play for the following SR season after returning from overseas. But who knows, maybe he's already signed for SRA. In that case, I wonder who he replaces. Maybe Fletcher Smith is injured (long-term)? Or James Marshall has already hung up his boots?
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@Stargazer the article also says this
Hickey has signed with the Hurricanes until the end of 2021.So potentially rest of this year and 2021?
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Can't say that I see the rationale for starting Princep ahead of Fifita.
I haven't paid too much attention to Van Wyk, but Rayasi is a weapon and I'd like to see him playing.
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@Chris-B said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:
Can't say that I see the rationale for starting Princep ahead of Fifita.
Can't say that I see the rationale for starting Prinsep.
The coaches not only start him but keep him on for the full match
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Still no IWL. Is he injured ?
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@cgrant I think he’s just a bit shit
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@Yeahtheboys Stirrer.
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@cgrant We don't know, because the Hurricanes never give injury updates. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just another stupid selection decision.
