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    • Machpants
      Machpants last edited by Duluth

      Quite like the school yard pick idea!

      Rugby finally returns in South Africa with a schedule that includes 'schoolyard pick' Springboks showdown

      Rugby finally returns in South Africa with a schedule that includes 'schoolyard pick' Springboks showdown

      It has been frustrating for South Africa officials to watch rugby return quicker in rival countries, but the home of the Springboks now has a fixtures list.

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      • OomPB
        OomPB last edited by Duluth

        Hi all, its been some time since I have been in my root forum and good to see most of the old timers still going strong.

        The Springboks have made us all very proud and are looking forward to the future.

        After we won the previous two WC's we lost control via coaches and players loss but this time Rassie will still control after he build us some real player depth.

        Our player movement are:
        Confirmed out:
        Schalk Brits (38), Beast Mtawarira (34), Flo Louw (34)

        Possibly out before RWC 2023:
        Bongi Mbonambi (30), Vincent Koch (29), Trevor Nyakane (30), Duane Vermeulen (33), Cobus Reinach (29), Elton Jantjies (29), Frans Steyn (32), Makazole Mapimpi (29), Willie le Roux (30)

        This leave is with :
        Malcolm Marx (25), Thomas du Toit (24), Steven Kitshoff (27), Frans Malherbe (28), Lood de Jager (26), Eben Etzebeth (27), Franco Mostert (28), RG Snyman (24), Pieter-Steph du Toit (27), Siya Kolisi (28), Kwagga Smith (26), Faf de Klerk (27), Herschel Jantjies (23), Handré Pollard (25)
        Damian Willemse (21), Lukhanyo Am (25), Damian de Allende (27), Jesse Kriel (25), Cheslin Kolbe (25), S'busiso Nkosi (23), Warrick Gelant (24)

        Players that got close:
        Coenie Oosthuizen (30), Marcell Coetzee (28), Jan Serfontein (26) Dillyn Leyds (27)
        Curwin Bosch (22), Wilco Louw (25) Ox Nché (24) André Esterhuizen (25), Sikhumbuzo Notshe (26), Akker van der Merwe (28), Marvin Orie (26), Marco van Staden (24), Rynhardt Elstadt (29)
        Lizo Gqoboka (29), Scarra Ntubeni (28)

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        • Billy Webb
          Billy Webb @OomPB last edited by

          @OomPB Welcome back PB.

          Interesting to see the relative ages. Quite a bunch of them are going to be a bit long-in-the-tooth come 2023. Let's hope they either retain great form like Beast, or some new youngsters come through strongly.

          The next target though will be the BIL's tour in 2021. I expect a good core group to at least make it that far.

          What will be interesting to see is whether Rassie is left free from interference to direct rugby in what he believes is the right direction.
          Or whether, since everybody loves a winner, we have a bunch of bandwagon jumpers both from inside and outside rugby who suddenly feel it is their duty to impose their "wisdom". Let's hope not. Otherwise it is going to be at least another 12 year drought.

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          • OomPB
            OomPB @Billy Webb last edited by

            @Billy-Webb Thanks Billy. Our pack was our strength in the WC. Fatties are like red wine only start to peak in their 30s. We'll still able to field the likes of Ginga, Tank, Marx, Frans, RG, Eben, Lood for many years in our tight 5.

            Our structures is still solid. However it will change because of the dropping of the u19CC. This years top schoolboys are all leaving for France.

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            • MajorRage
              MajorRage last edited by

              And he returns ... odd timing, why would you come back now? 🙂

              Had enough of the Sydney private school love in that is GAGR?

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              • OomPB
                OomPB @MajorRage last edited by

                @MajorRage 😕 I tried a few years back but wasnt welcome. Diversity is a very good thing. My english improved in Sydney.

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                • Catogrande
                  Catogrande @OomPB last edited by

                  @OomPB said in Springboks moving forward:

                  @MajorRage 😕 I tried a few years back but wasnt welcome. Diversity is a very good thing. My english improved in Sydney.

                  That's not something you hear everyday. 😉

                  Welcome back Uncle PB

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                  • OomPB
                    OomPB @Catogrande last edited by

                    RWC Squad in 2020:

                    Retired :Schalk Brits, Tendai Mtawarira

                    Japan: Malcolm Marx, RG Snyman & Damian de Allende - Munster?, Kwagga Smith, Duane Vermeulen, Jesse Kriel, Willie le Roux

                    S15:
                    Stormers: Bongi Mbonambi (Kings), Steven Kitshoff, Frans Malherbe, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi, Herschel Jantjies, Damian Willemse
                    Sharks: Thomas du Toit, Lukhanyo Am, Makazole Mapimpi, S'busiso Nkosi
                    Bulls: Trevor Nyakane, Warrick Gelant ,
                    Lions: Elton Jantjies

                    England
                    Vincent Koch - Saracens, Lood de Jager - Sale, Franco Mostert - Gloucester, Francois Louw - Bath, Faf de Klerk - Sale Sharks, Cobus Reinach - Northampton

                    France:
                    Eben Etzebeth - Toulon, Handré Pollard - Montpellier, François Steyn - Montpellier, Cheslin Kolbe - Toulouse,

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                    • dogmeat
                      dogmeat last edited by

                      Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?

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                      • Machpants
                        Machpants @dogmeat last edited by

                        @dogmeat said in Springboks moving forward:

                        Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?

                        Rassie is going to Director of Rugby role, not hands on coaching - I wonder how much he wil stick his oar in, can cause problems for a new, esp inexperienced like the favourite to take the role, coach to take ownership.

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                        • OomPB
                          OomPB @Machpants last edited by

                          @Machpants Nienaber is the favourite to take over the coaching role.

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                          • Bovidae
                            Bovidae last edited by

                            Heyneke Meyer needs a job again. 🙂

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                            • Machpants
                              Machpants @OomPB last edited by

                              @OomPB said in Springboks moving forward:

                              Nienaber

                              Yeah and he has no head coaching experience. So will it just be a head coach in name only? Otherwise he is far too inexperienced

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                              • Stargazer
                                Stargazer last edited by

                                It looks like Kolbe prefers playing sevens next year (because of the Olympics, end of July), so possibly not available for (some of) the Springboks tests.

                                Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the current French season with Toulouse.
                                
                                ‘I want to be a European champion with Toulouse and we can maybe do it this season,’ Kolbe added. ‘This is my next goal, with the one, I hope, to represent South Africa with the national team at sevens at the Tokyo Olympics in 2020.’
                                
                                Kolbe last played sevens in the 2016-17 World Series and was part of the Blitzboks team that finished with a bronze medal in the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.
                                
                                SA Rugby magazine  /  Nov 19, 2019  /  Sevens

                                Cheslin Kolbe targeting Blitzbok place in 2020 Tokyo Olympics squad

                                Cheslin Kolbe targeting Blitzbok place in 2020 Tokyo Olympics squad

                                Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the season with Toulouse.

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                                • Billy Webb
                                  Billy Webb @Stargazer last edited by

                                  @Stargazer said in Springboks moving forward:

                                  It looks like Kolbe prefers playing sevens next year (because of the Olympics, end of July), so possibly not available for (some of) the Springboks tests.

                                  Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the current French season with Toulouse.
                                  
                                  ‘I want to be a European champion with Toulouse and we can maybe do it this season,’ Kolbe added. ‘This is my next goal, with the one, I hope, to represent South Africa with the national team at sevens at the Tokyo Olympics in 2020.’
                                  
                                  Kolbe last played sevens in the 2016-17 World Series and was part of the Blitzboks team that finished with a bronze medal in the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.
                                  
                                  SA Rugby magazine  /  Nov 19, 2019  /  Sevens

                                  Cheslin Kolbe targeting Blitzbok place in 2020 Tokyo Olympics squad

                                  Cheslin Kolbe targeting Blitzbok place in 2020 Tokyo Olympics squad

                                  Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the season with Toulouse.

                                  Will be interesting to see how this managed by SA Rugby.
                                  The SA Sevens setup generally shies away from "XV's imports" for these events (although it does happen) because Sevens has become such a specialist game. But Kolbe did spend a long time with them before, so it is not new to him.
                                  But I suspect, they'd like him with the Sevens team pretty exclusive of any other commitments.

                                  If he goes that route, it opens up opportunities elsewhere. S'bu Nkosi would get back to show his skills, which are not unimpressive.

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                                  • Daffy Jaffy
                                    Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                                    For want of a better place to put this:

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                                    • Joan and Mary
                                      Joan and Mary @OomPB last edited by

                                      @OomPB Hi OomPB long time no hear, how are you doing?

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                                      • OomPB
                                        OomPB @Joan and Mary last edited by

                                        @Joan-and-Mary said in Springboks moving forward:

                                        @OomPB Hi OomPB long time no hear, how are you doing?

                                        Great to see you are still around, my tipping team mate.

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                                        • Stargazer
                                          Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                          Jacques Nienaber was named as the new Springbok coach on Friday as part of a revised coaching panel, that will report directly to Rassie Erasmus, South Africa’s director of rugby.
                                          
                                          Nienaber is promoted from an assistant coach’s role to carry the day-to-day responsibility while Erasmus will continue to direct strategy in a tweaking of a panel that is heavily accented on continuity.
                                          
                                          Both Nienaber and Erasmus emphasised that continuity will be paramount for the Boks in 2020.
                                          
                                          Mzwandile Stick has been reappointed as an assistant coach while in an innovative inclusion, Felix Jones will continue but in a new role as a European-based coaching consultant.
                                          
                                          There are two new appointments with Deon Davids appointed forwards coach while Daan Human – the Vodacom Bulls’ scrum coach – takes up the same role with the Springboks on a shared basis.
                                          
                                          ...
                                          
                                          Jan 23, 2020

                                          Continuity the key as Nienaber named as new Springbok coach

                                          Continuity the key as Nienaber named as new Springbok coach

                                          Jacques Nienaber was named as the new Springbok coach on Friday as part of a revised coaching panel, that will report directly to Rassie Erasmus, South Africa’s director of rugby.

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                                          • Kruse
                                            Kruse @Machpants last edited by Kruse

                                            @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                            Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                            Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                            Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                            ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                            Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

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                                            • Machpants
                                              Machpants @Kruse last edited by

                                              @Kruse yeah sounds very painful, even with watered pitches

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                                              • Tim
                                                Tim last edited by

                                                Pollard breaks silence after his devastating injury

                                                Pollard breaks silence after his devastating injury

                                                The Springboks were dealt a huge blow with the serious injury Handre Pollard picked up last weekend in the Top 14 with Montpellier.

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                                                • Kiwiwomble
                                                  Kiwiwomble @Kruse last edited by

                                                  @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                                  @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                                  Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                                  Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                                  Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                                  ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                                  Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                                  yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

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                                                  • pukunui
                                                    pukunui @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                    @Kiwiwomble said in SA Rugby:

                                                    @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                                    @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                                    Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                                    Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                                    Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                                    ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                                    Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                                    yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

                                                    It would be an interesting exercise to do on here. Two people could face off and go pick for pick. You could probably do multiple match ups and each pair would come up with very different sides depending on preference.

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                                                    • Kruse
                                                      Kruse @pukunui last edited by Kruse

                                                      @pukunui said in SA Rugby:

                                                      @Kiwiwomble said in SA Rugby:

                                                      @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                                      @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                                      Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                                      Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                                      Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                                      ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                                      Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                                      yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

                                                      It would be an interesting exercise to do on here. Two people could face off and go pick for pick. You could probably do multiple match ups and each pair would come up with very different sides depending on preference.

                                                      Unless one of the pair was @ACT-Crusader ...

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                                                      • Kiwiwomble
                                                        Kiwiwomble @pukunui last edited by

                                                        @pukunui id be despertey hoping one of them would miscount and have to stick a prop on the wing

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                                                        • OomPB
                                                          OomPB @Kruse last edited by

                                                          @Kruse Our PRO14 sides played in that period the last few years. Games @ 19h00 is perfect for live TV coverage

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                                                          • OomPB
                                                            OomPB @Machpants last edited by

                                                            @Machpants Currie Cup will be intense. Teams fighting for top 4 positions plus possibility of Springbokke inclusion.

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                                                            • Stargazer
                                                              Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                                              Below are a few quotes from media releases on the Springboks website. They show what's going on with the squad in terms of selection:


                                                              16 September 2020

                                                              The battle lines are being drawn for a Castle Lager Springbok Showdown, which will pit the best local stars and top, up-and-coming talent against each other on 3 October, as SA Rugby announced its plans today to reignite an exciting four-month local season.
                                                              
                                                              Springbok assistant coaches Mzwandile Stick and Deon Davids will coach Springbok Green versus Springbok Gold teams for the match at DHL Newlands in Cape Town on Saturday 3 October, with Rassie Erasmus (Director of Rugby) and Jacques Nienaber (Springbok coach) acting as the two Team Commissioners.
                                                              
                                                              The selection process will take the form of a draft pick from an enlarged squad of 60 players with Green and Gold team bosses taking alternate turns in an old-style ‘school yard pick’ to assemble their match-day squads of 25 players each.
                                                              
                                                              “This will not only be an opportunity to see the best of the best available talent in South Africa square off against each other in what promises to be something never seen before, but it will also provide the players with another valuable opportunity to shake of the rust and get the legs and lungs going after not playing any rugby in the last six months,” said Erasmus.
                                                              
                                                              “The players will be encouraged to showcase their skills – individually and in their teams – and while it will be full-on, we’re expecting to see a highly competitive match of quality players against each other.
                                                              
                                                              “It will be exciting – from the moment we select the squads, with a number of twists thrown in for good measure – through the build-up to the match and the actual encounter in Cape Town.”
                                                              


                                                              19 September 2020:

                                                              Thirty-two capped Springboks – 13 of whom were part of the Rugby World Cup-winning squad in Japan a year ago – a number of Blitzboks and recent Junior Boks are among a roster of 93 players in the draft squad for the historic Castle Lager Springbok Showdown in Cape Town on Saturday 3 October.
                                                              
                                                              Fifty of these players will end up in the two squads – Green and Gold – for the momentous match scheduled for DHL Newlands in two weeks’ time.
                                                              
                                                              The players, all of whom are based in South Africa, will be drafted into two squads of 25 each by the respective team commissioners and coaches, with equal representation amongst all positions.
                                                              
                                                              Furthermore, each squad will be augmented by seven rookies, all of whom will return to their provinces the day before the match if they are not required to step into either squad as replacements.
                                                              

                                                              Castle Lager Springbok Showdown draft squad:
                                                              
                                                              Props: Frans Malherbe*, Thomas du Toit*, Steven Kitshoff*, Trevor Nyakane*, Lizo Gqoboka^, Ox Nche^, Marcel van der Merwe^, Ruan Dreyer^, Dylan Smith, Carlu Sadie, Gerhard Steenekamp, Luan de Bruin, Sti Sithole, Nathan McBeth, Mzamo Majola, Johannes Jonker, John-Hubert Meyer.
                                                              
                                                              Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi*, Scarra Ntubeni^, Dylan Richardson, Johan Grobbelaar, Schalk Erasmus, Fez Mbatha, Dan Jooste.
                                                              
                                                              Locks: Jason Jenkins^, Marvin Orie^, Oupa Mohoje^, JD Schickerling, Emile van Heerden, Le Roux Roets, Hyron Andrews, Ruben van Heerden, Salmaan Moerat, Sintu Manjezi, Walt Steenkamp, Reinhard Nothnagel, Ruan Vermaak, Ruben Schoeman.
                                                              
                                                              Looseforwards: Siya Kolisi*, Duane Vermeulen*, Sikhumbuzo Notshe^, Arno Botha^, Marco van Staden^, Nizaam Carr^, Jaco Kriel^, Ernst van Rhyn, Celimpilo Gumede, Jaco Coetzee, James Venter, Junior Pokomela, Phepsi Buthelezi, Thembelani Bholi, Vincent Tshituka, Elrigh Louw, Jeandré Rudolph, Juarno Augustus, Muller Uys, Len Massyn.
                                                              
                                                              Scrumhalves: Herschel Jantjies*, Embrose Papier^, Ivan van Zyl^, Jaden Hendrikse, Sanele Nohamba.
                                                              
                                                              Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies*, Damian Willemse*, Curwin Bosch^, George Whitehead, Kade Wolhuter, Manie Libbok.
                                                              
                                                              Centres: Frans Steyn*, Lukhanyo Am*, Burger Odendaal, Jeremy Ward, Clinton Swart, Manuel Rass, Marius Louw, Rikus Pretorius, Wandisile Simelane, Werner Kok, Dan du Plessis, Ruhan Nel.
                                                              
                                                              Outside backs: Warrick Gelant*, Travis Ismaiel^, Cornal Hendricks^, Courtnall Skosan^, Rabz Maxwane, Rosko Specman, Seabelo Senatla, Sergeal Petersen, Yaw Penxe, David Kriel, Gianni Lombard, Malcolm Jaer.
                                                              
                                                              * denotes Springbok RWC squad members
                                                              
                                                              ^ denotes capped Springbok Test players
                                                              


                                                              25 September 2020:

                                                              A raft of Springboks, Blitzboks and Junior Boks made the cut in two 25-man squads after an exciting live draft pick – the first of its kind in South African rugby history – for the Castle Lager Springbok Showdown in Cape Town on Saturday 3 October.
                                                              
                                                              The two squads boast 13 members of the Rugby World Cup-winning squad from last year in Japan, as well as some exciting young players who will get to rub shoulders with established internationals for the eagerly awaited clash at DHL Newlands next Saturday (kick-off at 17h05).
                                                              
                                                              Springbok Green squad:
                                                              Props: Ox Nche*, Thomas du Toit**, Trevor Nyakane**, Luan de Bruin
                                                              Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi**, Schalk Erasmus
                                                              Locks: JD Schickerling, Hyron Andrews, Oupa Mohoje*
                                                              Looseforwards: Siya Kolisi**, Arno Botha*, Duane Vermeulen**, Junior Pokomela, Juarno Augustus
                                                              Scrumhalves: Sanele Nohamba, Embrose Papier*
                                                              Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies**, Manie Libbok
                                                              Centres: Frans Steyn**, Wandisile Simelane, Jeremy Ward
                                                              Outside backs: Seabelo Senatla, Yaw Penxe, Gianni Lombard, Malcolm Jaer
                                                              
                                                              Springbok Gold squad:
                                                              Props: Steven Kitshoff**, Dylan Smith, Frans Malherbe**, Ruan Dreyer*
                                                              Hookers: Scarra Ntubeni*, Dylan Richardson 
                                                              Locks: Salmaan Moerat, Marvin Orie*, Jason Jenkins*
                                                              Looseforwards: Marco van Staden*, Nizaam Carr*, Sikhumbuzo Notshe*; Vincent Tshituka, James Venter
                                                              Scrumhalves: Herschel Jantjies**, Jaden Hendrikse
                                                              Flyhalves: Damian Willemse**, Curwin Bosch*
                                                              Centres: Rikus Pretorius, Lukhanyo Am**, Werner Kok, Manuel Rass
                                                              Outside backs: Sergeal Petersen, Rosko Specman, Warrick Gelant**
                                                              


                                                              26 September 2020

                                                              Sixteen rising South African rugby talents have been named to join the Springbok Green and Gold squads for a training week in preparation for next Saturday’s Castle Lager Springbok Showdown.
                                                              
                                                              The young players – drawn largely form the ranks of the Junior Springboks – will spend the week in camp with the two national selections before returning to their provinces to begin the inter-provincial Under-21 championships.
                                                              
                                                              Green - Props: Nathan McBeth (Emirates Lions), Kudzwai Dube (Emirates Lions). Hooker: Morne Brandon (Emirates Lions). Lock: JJ van der Mescht (Cell C Sharks). Back row: Evan Roos (Cell C Sharks), Phepsi Buthelezi (Cell C Sharks). Scrumhalf: Bernard van der Linde (Vodacom Blue Bulls). Centre: Mnombo Zwelindaba (DHL Western Province).
                                                              
                                                              Gold - Props: Kwenso Blose (DHL Western Province), Asenathi Ntlabakanye (Emirates Lions). Hooker: Fez Mbatha (Cell C Sharks). Lock: Emile van Heerden (Cell C Sharks). Back row: Celimpilo Gumede (Cell C Sharks), Muller Uys (Vodacom Blue Bulls). Scrumhalf: Thomas Bursey (DHL Western Province). Flyhalf: Kade Wolhuter (DHL Western Province).
                                                              
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                                                              • sparky
                                                                sparky last edited by sparky

                                                                It seems unlikely the Springboks who play for English and French clubs will be involved in the Rugby Championship this year.

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                                                                • taniwharugby
                                                                  taniwharugby @sparky last edited by

                                                                  @sparky similarly the SA based Boks

                                                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300118977/springboks-still-uncertain-participants-for-rugby-championship

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                                                                  • Stargazer
                                                                    Stargazer last edited by

                                                                    Line-ups for the Green v Gold match. According to Sky's Facebook page, this game will be LIVE on Sky Sport 1 from 4.00am (at the moment I'm writing this, it isn't in Sky's online tv schedule, yet).

                                                                    Springbok Green:
                                                                    15 – Gianni Lombard
                                                                    14 – Yaw Penxe
                                                                    13 – Wandisile Simelane
                                                                    12 – Frans Steyn
                                                                    11 – Malcolm Jaer
                                                                    10 – Elton Jantjies
                                                                    9 – Sanele Nohamba
                                                                    8 – Duane Vermeulen
                                                                    7 – Arno Botha
                                                                    6 – Siya Kolisi (captain)
                                                                    5 – Hyron Andrews
                                                                    4 – JD Schickerling
                                                                    3 – Luan de Bruin
                                                                    2 – Bongi Mbonambi
                                                                    1 – Ox Nche

                                                                    Replacements:
                                                                    16 – Schalk Erasmus
                                                                    17 – Kwenzo Blose
                                                                    18 – Thomas du Toit
                                                                    19 – JJ van der Mescht
                                                                    20 – Juarno Augustus
                                                                    21 – Junior Pokomela
                                                                    22 – Embrose Papier
                                                                    23 – Manie Libbok
                                                                    24 – Jeremy Ward
                                                                    25 – Kade Wolhuter

                                                                    Springbok Gold:
                                                                    15 – Warrick Gelant
                                                                    14 – Rosko Specman
                                                                    13 – Lukhanyo Am (captain)
                                                                    12 – Rikus Pretorius
                                                                    11 – Courtnall Skosan
                                                                    10 – Damian Willemse
                                                                    9 – Herschel Jantjies
                                                                    8 – Sikhumbuzo Notshe
                                                                    7 – Nizaam Carr
                                                                    6 – Marco van Staden
                                                                    5 – Marvin Orie
                                                                    4 – Salmaan Moerat
                                                                    3 – Ruan Dreyer
                                                                    2 – Scarra Ntubeni
                                                                    1 – Steven Kitshoff

                                                                    Replacements:
                                                                    16 – Dylan Richardson
                                                                    17 – Dylan Smith
                                                                    18 – Carlü Sadie
                                                                    19 – Jason Jenkins
                                                                    20 – James Venter
                                                                    21 – Vincent Tshituka
                                                                    22 – Ivan van Zyl
                                                                    23 – Curwin Bosch
                                                                    24 – Werner Kok
                                                                    25 – Manuel Rass

                                                                    Sep 29, 2020

                                                                    Kolisi and Am to lead Green and Gold teams

                                                                    Kolisi and Am to lead Green and Gold teams

                                                                    Rugby World Cup-winning Springbok captain Siya Kolisi will resume his leadership duties in the national team colours on Saturday for the first time since lifting the Webb Ellis Cup after being named alongside Springbok team-mate Lukhanyo Am as the captains of the Green and Gold teams for the Castle...

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                                                                      booboo @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                      @Stargazer said in Springboks moving forward:

                                                                      Line-ups for the Green v Gold match. According to Sky's Facebook page, this game will be LIVE on Sky Sport 1 from 4.00am (at the moment I'm writing this, it isn't in Sky's online tv schedule, yet).

                                                                      Springbok Green:
                                                                      15 – Gianni Lombard
                                                                      14 – Yaw Penxe
                                                                      13 – Wandisile Simelane
                                                                      12 – Frans Steyn
                                                                      11 – Malcolm Jaer
                                                                      10 – Elton Jantjies
                                                                      9 – Sanele Nohamba
                                                                      8 – Duane Vermeulen
                                                                      7 – Arno Botha
                                                                      6 – Siya Kolisi (captain)
                                                                      5 – Hyron Andrews
                                                                      4 – JD Schickerling
                                                                      3 – Luan de Bruin
                                                                      2 – Bongi Mbonambi
                                                                      1 – Ox Nche

                                                                      Replacements:
                                                                      16 – Schalk Erasmus
                                                                      17 – Kwenzo Blose
                                                                      18 – Thomas du Toit
                                                                      19 – JJ van der Mescht
                                                                      20 – Juarno Augustus
                                                                      21 – Junior Pokomela
                                                                      22 – Embrose Papier
                                                                      23 – Manie Libbok
                                                                      24 – Jeremy Ward
                                                                      25 – Kade Wolhuter

                                                                      Springbok Gold:
                                                                      15 – Warrick Gelant
                                                                      14 – Rosko Specman
                                                                      13 – Lukhanyo Am (captain)
                                                                      12 – Rikus Pretorius
                                                                      11 – Courtnall Skosan
                                                                      10 – Damian Willemse
                                                                      9 – Herschel Jantjies
                                                                      8 – Sikhumbuzo Notshe
                                                                      7 – Nizaam Carr
                                                                      6 – Marco van Staden
                                                                      5 – Marvin Orie
                                                                      4 – Salmaan Moerat
                                                                      3 – Ruan Dreyer
                                                                      2 – Scarra Ntubeni
                                                                      1 – Steven Kitshoff

                                                                      Replacements:
                                                                      16 – Dylan Richardson
                                                                      17 – Dylan Smith
                                                                      18 – Carlü Sadie
                                                                      19 – Jason Jenkins
                                                                      20 – James Venter
                                                                      21 – Vincent Tshituka
                                                                      22 – Ivan van Zyl
                                                                      23 – Curwin Bosch
                                                                      24 – Werner Kok
                                                                      25 – Manuel Rass

                                                                      Sep 29, 2020

                                                                      Kolisi and Am to lead Green and Gold teams

                                                                      Kolisi and Am to lead Green and Gold teams

                                                                      Rugby World Cup-winning Springbok captain Siya Kolisi will resume his leadership duties in the national team colours on Saturday for the first time since lifting the Webb Ellis Cup after being named alongside Springbok team-mate Lukhanyo Am as the captains of the Green and Gold teams for the Castle...

                                                                      I have obviously not been keeping a track of SA rugby. I recognise only 17 of those 50 names.

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                                                                        Stargazer @booboo last edited by

                                                                        @booboo Haha, it's not just you. I only recognise a few more. There are quite a few Blitzboks in the squads.

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                                                                          booboo @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                          @Stargazer said in Springboks moving forward:

                                                                          @booboo Haha, it's not just you. I only recognise a few more. There are quite a few Blitzboks in the squads.

                                                                          Yeah. Some of the names I recognise.

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                                                                            Full time score:

                                                                            Green 25 - 9 Gold


                                                                            Match report and highlights video in this article: https://supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/201003_Many_errors_but_many_lessons_learnt_in_Springbok_Showdown


                                                                            Also, see this quote:

                                                                            But it did also remind us that the Springboks’ chances of going to the Rugby Championship are slim to say the least and a good argument of being underdone can be made on the evidence of Saturday afternoon.

                                                                            I really wonder when they're going to take the decision about their participation in the RC. Surely, they can't wait that long anymore?

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                                                                              booboo @Stargazer last edited by booboo

                                                                              @Stargazer said in Springboks moving forward:

                                                                              Full time score:

                                                                              Green 25 - 9 Gold


                                                                              Match report and highlights video in this article: https://supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/201003_Many_errors_but_many_lessons_learnt_in_Springbok_Showdown


                                                                              Also, see this quote:

                                                                              But it did also remind us that the Springboks’ chances of going to the Rugby Championship are slim to say the least and a good argument of being underdone can be made on the evidence of Saturday afternoon.

                                                                              I really wonder when they're going to take the decision about their participation in the RC. Surely, they can't wait that long anymore?

                                                                              Didn't see the Bokke trial, and have no desire too, but listened to Tony Johnson on Devlin's show over the weekend who made mention of the benefit of NZ making our game a North v South clash, to give it some meaning, rather than a meaningless trial and noted his comment about how it became about individuals wanting to be noticed.

                                                                              Anyone watch the Green v Gold who can comment?

                                                                              What would be the natural split for SA without invoking age old animosity?

                                                                              I suspect Coastal v Veldt is essentially English v Afrikaaner ...

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                                                                                Three fact is, even if the boks are ok to play, they are too precious about their world ranking and won't come. Which is sad, but things like that they actually care about. Foster's idea to can rugby ranking use the best thing to come out off his mouth so far. Stops lame excuses

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                                                                                  Billy Webb @Machpants last edited by

                                                                                  @Machpants said in Springboks moving forward:

                                                                                  Three fact is, even if the boks are ok to play, they are too precious about their world ranking and won't come. Which is sad, but things like that they actually care about. Foster's idea to can rugby ranking use the best thing to come out off his mouth so far. Stops lame excuses

                                                                                  Can't agree with any of this at all.
                                                                                  A couple of facts from the Republic:

                                                                                  1. Everyone, including the players and fans would love for rugby, and test matches in particular to return.
                                                                                  2. But unlike NZ, South Africa had a very strict Covid lockdown in place, for an extended period of time.
                                                                                  3. Rugby has only just resumed here.
                                                                                  4. Many of the Bok 1st choice players are based in the UK, who still are on a restricted travel list to SA - so no chance of them joining up for training.

                                                                                  I don't see it being in anyone's interest to send a sub-strength, under-cooked Bok side to play tests.
                                                                                  Would hardly be a test now would it?

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                                                                                    @Billy-Webb said in Springboks moving forward:

                                                                                    I don't see it being in anyone's interest to send a sub-strength, under-cooked Bok side to play tests.
                                                                                    Would hardly be a test now would it?

                                                                                    Not only that, but it also increases the risk of injury. So it's also a player welfare issue.

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