2020 Rugby Championship in Oz
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@KiwiMurph said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
@Stargazer said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
@sparky said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
@antipodean No Ash Dixon, no Luke Jacobson, no Lachlan Boshier, No Josh Ioane, no TJ Faine.
And again, no David Havili. FFS
perhaps they saw his game on the weekend....
Yeah he’s not playing well, and well behind other options at fullback. Not a surprise at all.
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@Stargazer said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
@Kirwan said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
Yeah he’s not playing well, and well behind other options at fullback. Not a surprise at all.
Typical haha.
Not alone in that opinion, you might be in yours though
As an Auckland fan, was pretty happy with his performance.
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@Kirwan I don't think I'm the only one who thinks "he's not playing well" is an exaggeration. I think many will agree that he had one bad game in an otherwise very good season. He's not "well" behind the other fullbacks. He may be the next to be called up if a fullback/second five goes down and they want a replacement. He might even have been in the squad if he hadn't been so unlucky with his injuries.
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@Kirwan If he hadn't been unlucky with injuries and had played a full SRA and North v South, he had a good chance to be in the squad from the beginning, either ahead of Dmac (who had an awful year) or Will Jordan (who wouldn't have had much game time at fullback).
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If he was a better player he might have had a chance too.
I get it, your a fan and you like cheerleading him. Just pointing out your opinion isn’t matching what the AB selectors have seeing for the past few years.
I’d expect to be mocked if I was pumping Trainor as hard you are Havilli.
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Havili was in excellent form last year but given he was a fringe AB squad player, you need a lot of things to go right to cement that spot.
He looked good again at the start of the year particularly in the Tahs and Blues games before the bowel surgery. Then the fracture.
He comes back he looks about 70-80% of the pre-injured player. Again not being a first or second choice, and coming back from injury you need the stars to align, so no surprise he didn’t get the call up. Better him playing regularly to get that game fitness up should that emergency call up come.
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@ACT-Crusader I think he's been more than 70 - 80% for the Mako. He had one bad game and has been excellent in others. But you're right, the stars have to align when you've been unlucky all year. And they clearly didn't.
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@Kirwan said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
If he was a better player he might have had a chance too.
I get it, your a fan and you like cheerleading him. Just pointing out your opinion isn’t matching what the AB selectors have seeing for the past few years.
I’d expect to be mocked if I was pumping Trainor as hard you are Havilli.
Of course you would be mocked. Trainor isn't even SR level.
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@antipodean said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
The All Blacks travelling squad for the Investec Tri Nations is as follows:
Forwards
Hookers: Asafo Aumua, Dane Coles and Codie Taylor.
Props: George Bower, Alex Hodgman, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, and Ofa Tuungafasi.
Locks: Scott Barrett, Mitchell Dunshea, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa'i and Samuel Whitelock.
Loose Forwards: Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Cullen Grace, Akira Ioane, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Dalton Papalii, Ardie Savea and Hoskins Sotutu.
Backs:
Halfbacks: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith and Brad Weber.
First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo'unga.
Midfielders: Jack Goodhue, Rieko Ioane, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown and Peter Umaga-Jensen.
Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, Damian McKenzie and Sevu Reece.
So Bridge not replaced and Ngani added = Roane covering wing. Radical thought, I know.
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@ACT-Crusader doona? Away with your Australian slang.
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@Stargazer said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
@Kirwan said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:
If he was a better player he might have had a chance too.
I get it, your a fan and you like cheerleading him. Just pointing out your opinion isn’t matching what the AB selectors have seeing for the past few years.
I’d expect to be mocked if I was pumping Trainor as hard you are Havilli.
Of course you would be mocked. Trainor isn't even SR level.
Both are fullbacks not playing well at NPC level that haven’t been selected for the ABs.
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I'm in the surprised by Kirifi over Boshier camp. Great in a shit team - better than Cane - throughout Super rugby. Lifted like class players do in big games for the shield, best on ground by a mile - with a lot of ABs on the same ground.
Also in the pick the big ginger camp. The way he throws himself around he'll be retiring due to injury in a couple of years, so better pick him now. There's no combination of other players in a forward pack that would see me selecting S Barrett ahead of him on the flank. And he doesn't shirk the tight stuff, so if he can scrum he can lock.
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I'm curious if there will be NH or SA refs for any of these games, given the Covid-19 situation. I think we may end up with only NZ and Aust refs again. Williams/O'Keeffe and Gardner could do the Bledisloe Cup games again and they can use neutral refs for the games against Argentina. The likes of Berry could be added to the refereeing pool.
The rescheduled 6N games only have European refs.
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@Bovidae I think you're right and that we'll have Australian & NZ refs only, unless Federico Anselmi has come over from Argentina and has done his quarantine. I just checked and he's not officiating games of the South American 4 Nations.
Not only the 6Nations games, but also the Autumn Nations Cup games and other test matches in Europe all have European refs only. It's strange that the RC appointments aren't published on the WR website, yet.
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With there being 2 new community cases (in Auckland I presume), will this allow the Auckland based ABs to travel to Australia? I think under the current travel bubble conditions, there can only be travel to NSW from an NZ location that has had no community cases for 3 days.
