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<p>Interesting article about the guy behind brietbart, the site that makes Fox News look restrained and nuanced <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2015-steve-bannon/'>http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2015-steve-bannon/</a></p>
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<p>I have no problem with partisans that proclaim their leanings and stand behind them, and ideally criticize their side when necessary. Bannon comes right out and says he wants to destroy Hillary and Jeb. He seems kinda honest about his motivation. By contrast, Fox News is a far more powerful arm of the GOP, yet masquerades as "Fair & Balanced" impartiality and "We Report You Decide" propaganda bullshit. And Fox isn't the least bit hesitant to use any of Bannon's garbage material, scandals, hidden camera video exposes, etc., and dress it up beautifully then drag Krauthammer and Kristol in to give it the Washington DC seal of approval and sell junk jewelry as hard-hitting Pulitzer-worthy Journalism.</p> -
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<p>I have no problem with partisans that proclaim their leanings and stand behind them, and ideally criticize their side when necessary. Bannon comes right out and says he wants to destroy Hillary and Jeb. He seems kinda honest about his motivation. By contrast, Fox News is a far more powerful arm of the GOP, yet masquerades as "Fair & Balanced" impartiality and "We Report You Decide" propaganda bullshit. And Fox isn't the least bit hesitant to use any of Bannon's <span style="color:#ff0000;">garbage material,</span> scandals, hidden camera video exposes, etc., and dress it up beautifully then drag Krauthammer and Kristol in to give it the Washington DC seal of approval and sell junk jewelry as hard-hitting Pulitzer-worthy Journalism.</p>
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<p>What do you mean by this. Are you saying its true but not a good look or not true?</p>
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<p>And all the papers and news channels are propaganda bullshit now. Its only a matter of degree</p>
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<p>This is the way it is and has always been. This issue is many do not understand this yet.</p> -
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<p>What do you mean by this. Are you saying its true but not a good look or not true?</p>
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<p>Distorted. Context & facts.</p>
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<p>SEE:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.fox5ny.com/news/36071935-story'>Fox News’ <strong>Ed Henry </strong>is reporting</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(248,248,248);"> that sources close to Vice President </span><strong>Joe Biden</strong><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(248,248,248);"> have told him that Biden will definitely run for president in 2016.</span></p>
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<p>And Webb drops out. Not surprising. Looked like he was at the wrong debate the other day. Hillary should romp it now. I'm not convinced Biden's poll numbers will transfer to votes if or when he becomes a proper candidate.</p>
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<p>And Webb drops out. Not surprising. Looked like he was at the wrong debate the other day. Hillary should romp it now. I'm not convinced Biden's poll numbers will transfer to votes if or when he becomes a proper candidate.</p>
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<p>Weeb looked like a book tour - or an application to get a book optioned. Which is probably what it was.</p> -
Bidens not running <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/73263406/Vice-President-Joe-Biden-will-not-seek-2016-US-Democratic-presidential-nomination'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/73263406/Vice-President-Joe-Biden-will-not-seek-2016-US-Democratic-presidential-nomination</a>
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Good to see CNN focussing on the important issues like finding out whether Ben Carson was actually as mean a kid as he claimed he was. Ffs. Obama used a bloody composite girlfriend in his autobiography and nobody gave a shit.
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<p>Good to see CNN focussing on the important issues like finding out whether Ben Carson was actually as mean a kid as he claimed he was. Ffs. Obama used a bloody composite girlfriend in his autobiography and nobody gave a shit.</p>
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<p>Carson's a nutjob and a lot of the incredibly stupid shit he's said over the years (the pyramids were used to store grain, guys!) has really seemed to fly under the radar, so it's not much of a surprise he's coming under extra scrutiny now that he's somehow managed to hit the lead in the Republican Wacky Races.</p> -
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Carson's a nutjob and a lot of the incredibly stupid shit he's said over the years (the pyramids were used to store grain, guys!) has really seemed to fly under the radar, so it's not much of a surprise he's coming under extra scrutiny now that he's somehow managed to hit the lead in the Republican Wacky Races.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Yes its vitally important to know if he was actually a nice kid and of course his views on the pyramids. Much more important than a secretary of state illegally using an email server or what went down in Bengazi.</p>
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<p>Wow, Fox News fan, huh? A couple of things:</p>
<p>1. The rules about external email servers came in AFTER Clinton's term, when Kerry started. She did nothing illegal. Nor did Colin Powell, by the way, who did the exact same thing during his term as Secretary of State (though weirdly enough, there's no controversy over that).</p>
<p>2. Benghazi?! You mean the controversy the Republicans publicly admitted was entirely politically based, wasting millions of US tax payers money to run a Hillary smear campaign? That Benghazi? The thing they just had a hearing on where they had NOTHING, was widely mocked and helped give Clinton a boost in the polls? Yeah, okay.</p>
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<p>But no, it's totally irrelevant that Carson may have lied about attacking his mum with a hammer and stabbing a relative (why you'd lie about that, I have no idea) and has already admitted lying about being accepted into a military academy. Stop scrutinising him, guys! Bengazi! Emails!</p>
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<p>And hey, why stop at the pyramid quote, here's some more wise words of wisdom from Republican front runner Ben Carson:</p>
<p></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing to happen to the nation since slavery, And it is slavery, in a way.</blockquote>
<p></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed. I'm telling you there is a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first.</blockquote>
<p></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeye’s. A guy comes in, put the gun in my ribs. And I just said, ‘I believe that you want the guy behind the counter.’</blockquote>
<p></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">There's only two paragraphs in there about George Washington ... little or nothing about Martin Luther King, a whole section on slavery and how evil we are, a whole section on Japanese internment camps and how we slaughtered millions of Japanese with our bombs. I think most people when they finish that course, they'd be ready to go sign up for ISIS ... We have got to stop this silliness crucifying ourselves.</blockquote>
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Wow, Fox News fan, huh? A couple of things:<br>- The rules about external email servers came in AFTER Clinton's term, when Kerry started. She did nothing illegal. Nor did Colin Powell, by the way, who did the exact same thing during his term as Secretary of State (though weirdly enough, there's no controversy over that).<br>
- Benghazi?! You mean the controversy the Republicans publicly admitted was entirely politically based, wasting millions of US tax payers money to run a Hillary smear campaign? That Benghazi? The thing they just had a hearing on where they had NOTHING, was widely mocked and helped give Clinton a boost in the polls? Yeah, okay.<br><br>
But no, it's totally irrelevant that Carson may have lied about attacking his mum with a hammer and stabbing a relative (why you'd lie about that, I have no idea) and has already admitted lying about being accepted into a military academy. Stop scrutinising him, guys! Bengazi! Emails!<br><br>
And hey, why stop at the pyramid quote, here's some more wise words of wisdom from Republican front runner Ben Carson:</p></blockquote>
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Um sure, it was all just made up by Fox News and the Republicans. Nothing to see here, lets move right along and pretend it didn't happen.<br><br>
Hey, I got a great quote too:<br><br>
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
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<p>Um sure, it was all just made up by Fox News and the Republicans. Nothing to see here, lets move right along and pretend it didn't happen.<br><br>
Hey, I got a great quote too:<br><br>
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."</p>
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<p>Shes obviously a seriously smart woman, I suspect she's also quite deranged . Most politicians have some degree of narcissism, hers must on the upper end of the scale up in the trumposphere. </p> -
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<p>Um sure, it was all just made up by Fox News and the Republicans. Nothing to see here, lets move right along and pretend it didn't happen.<br><br>
Hey, I got a great quote too:<br><br>
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."</p>
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<p>Pretend what happened, exactly? Do you even know? That you think her email server was illegal tells me you don't but if you've got a reputable source saying otherwise, I'd love to read it. Everything I've read has made it pretty obvious they're witch hunts and nothing more. They know they've got no chance against her in a fair fight, not while they're still towing the same far right shit from 2012 that successfully alienated minorities, women and the young.</p>
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<p>I'm not the biggest Clinton fan, she's too hawkish for my liking and is a pretty typical politician, but she's the only reasonable option of the current lineup (Sanders and O'Malley have no chance, the Republicans are all far right nutters who have no interests in minority or women's rights) and she would continue down the same course as the Obama administration. The most important part is that she'll appoint reasonable Supreme Court judges, who'll hopefully revert some of the more fucked up systemic things in the US ("corporations are people" and so on).</p> -
<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;"></span></span></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Pretend what happened, exactly? Do you even know? That you think her email server was illegal tells me you don't but if you've got a reputable source saying otherwise, I'd love to read it. <strong>Everything I've read has made it pretty obvious they're witch hunts and nothing more</strong>. They know they've got no chance against her in a fair fight, not while they're still towing the same far right shit from 2012 that successfully alienated minorities, women and the young. </blockquote>
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<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Really? The NYTimes isnt so sure about that: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=0'>http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=0</a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Even if there is dispute about whether or not what she did was strictly illegal, it was as dodgy as hell and seriously calls into question both her judgement and honesty. Simply labelling this as a storm in a tea cup and a desperate attempt to take out the unbeatable juggernaut that is Hillary is stretching it a bit. Had the shoe been on the other foot, I doubt you’d simply dismiss it as a witch hunt. In fact judging by your post, it’s pretty farking obvious that you’d be raging about it.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'times new roman';"></span></span></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">I'm not the biggest Clinton fan, she's too hawkish for my liking and is a pretty typical politician, but she's the only reasonable option of the current lineup (Sanders and O'Malley have no chance, the Republicans are all far right nutters <strong>who have no interests in minority or women's rights</strong>) and she would continue down the same course as the Obama administration. The most important part is that she'll appoint reasonable Supreme Court judges, who'll hopefully revert some of the more fucked up systemic things in the US ("corporations are people" and so on). </blockquote>
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<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Now that’s more than a little weird. In case you didn’t notice, Cruz and Rubio are Hispanic, Carson is black and Fiorina is a woman. Unless of course you believe the first three are uncle toms and Fiorina is somehow working against the sisterhood. In fact saying someone like Carson has no interest in minority rights is just plain farking stupid.</span></span></p> -
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<p>What's more they're American politicians.</p>
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<p>Being investigated by the media.</p>
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<p>What's more the American media.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Really? The NYTimes isnt so sure about that: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=0'>http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=0</a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Even if there is dispute about whether or not what she did was strictly illegal, it was as dodgy as hell and seriously calls into question both her judgement and honesty. Simply labelling this as a storm in a tea cup and a desperate attempt to take out the unbeatable juggernaut that is Hillary is stretching it a bit. Had the shoe been on the other foot, I doubt you’d simply dismiss it as a witch hunt. In fact judging by your post, it’s pretty farking obvious that you’d be raging about it.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Now that’s more than a little weird. In case you didn’t notice, Cruz and Rubio are Hispanic, Carson is black and Fiorina is a woman. Unless of course you believe the first three are uncle toms and Fiorina is somehow working against the sisterhood. In fact saying someone like Carson has no interest in minority rights is just plain farking stupid.</span></span></p>
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<p>It was obviously a mistake to set up a private email server and she's admitted as much but there's nothing illegal there and if there were, I'm betting you'd have a better source than a fucking eight month old article from way back when the allegations were first being made and the Republicans were hoping to find a scandal. Then the emails were released, they went through them all and they found absolutely nothing.</p>
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<p>If I were to "rage" about it, I'd bring up the fact that Jeb Bush (and a number of other Republican candidates) did the exact same fucking thing:</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/16/politics/hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-email-2016/'>http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/16/politics/hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-email-2016/</a></p>
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<p>Worse, the emails Jeb Bush did release included personal information on thousands of Floridians (some of which included social security numbers):</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/10/8013531/jeb-bush-florida-email-dump-privacy'>http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/10/8013531/jeb-bush-florida-email-dump-privacy</a></p>
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<p>But I didn't because... (drumroll please) No-one gives a shit about any of these "scandals." Hillary isn't going to prison like the Republicans were hoping, she's still going to win the election by a comfortable margin and Republicans will continue to act like babies just like they have for the last eight years.</p>
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<p>Just because someone is part of a minority, that doesn't mean they campaign for them, especially when they're pandering to a far right, almost entirely white base. Cruz and Rubio are <em>Cuban</em>, a completely different demographic than the vast majority of Latino Americans. Carson has spoken out against Black Lives Matter and hasn't provided a single policy to address the issues. Fiorina has campaigned against Planned Parenthood, a pro-women organisation. The only Republican candidate who I don't think is insane is Kasich and even he's further right than most National MPs in NZ.</p>
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<p>You seem really misinformed.</p>
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