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    Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021)

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    • Kiwiwomble
      Kiwiwomble last edited by Stargazer

      we can hope

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      • Stargazer
        Stargazer last edited by

        Apparently, George Bridge played very well for Crusaders Development XV, last weekend, and will be available for this game as well.

        Bit of a conundrum for Razor; who do you leave out if you bring him in? 🤔

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        • Kiwiwomble
          Kiwiwomble @Stargazer last edited by Kiwiwomble

          @stargazer probably safest to avoid the confrontation and rest them all

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          • Chris
            Chris @Stargazer last edited by

            @stargazer said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

            Apparently, George Bridge played very well for Crusaders Development XV, last weekend, and will be available for this game as well.

            Bit of a conundrum for Razor; who do you leave out if you bring him in? 🤔

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            • Bones
              Bones @Chris last edited by

              @chris said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

              @stargazer said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

              Apparently, George Bridge played very well for Crusaders Development XV, last weekend, and will be available for this game as well.

              Bit of a conundrum for Razor; who do you leave out if you bring him in? 🤔

              Some of your best work bro 😁

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              • Chris
                Chris @Bones last edited by

                @bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

                @chris said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

                @stargazer said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

                Apparently, George Bridge played very well for Crusaders Development XV, last weekend, and will be available for this game as well.

                Bit of a conundrum for Razor; who do you leave out if you bring him in? 🤔

                Some of your best work bro 😁

                Thanks Mate 😂

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                  cgrant @Chris last edited by

                  @chris
                  Have him return to the bench first.

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                  • Chris
                    Chris @cgrant last edited by

                    @cgrant said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

                    @chris
                    Have him return to the bench first.

                    I think that’s what will happen Bridge on the bench

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                    • Stargazer
                      Stargazer last edited by

                      It wouldn't surprise me at all if Razor comes with a few selection surprises, this week. Like starting Burke, or something like that. And maybe a rookie forward in the 23, for example Tamaiti Williams.

                      I think McLeod is going to lose his spot in the 23 to Bridge.

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                      • Kiwiwomble
                        Kiwiwomble last edited by

                        jesus, we havent played the same fullback two games in a row, Sio finally gets dropped though. im assuming Ioane has a niggle as Makene on the bench

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                        • Stargazer
                          Stargazer last edited by

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                          • Kiwiwomble
                            Kiwiwomble @Stargazer last edited by

                            @stargazer freedom out for the season? bugger

                            whats the difference between "unavailable due to Injury" and "Unavailable"?

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                              Gunner last edited by

                              I like that backline.

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                              • Kiwiwomble
                                Kiwiwomble @Gunner last edited by

                                @gunner Think i would rather see Gregory in the midfield but yeah in general its interesting, still no Aliamalo though

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                                • Chris
                                  Chris last edited by Chris

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                                  It be seems 6 players stood down for the Highlanders
                                  Ioane again

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                                  • Bovidae
                                    Bovidae last edited by

                                    Freedom Vahaakolo fractured his left foot at training.

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                                    • Kiwiwomble
                                      Kiwiwomble @Chris last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                      @chris said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

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                                      It be seems 6 players stood down for the Highlanders
                                      Ioane again

                                      "Brown explained that the players had "broken the code" of the team and were dropped as a result.

                                      "There's six guys who are unavailable through letting the team down around their standards; broke the code that we live by and it's all around their professional habits," he said."

                                      damn it, ioane hasn;t been playing well enough to take the piss and people like MMT should be looking at stepping up

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                                      • Chris
                                        Chris @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                        @kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

                                        @chris said in Highlanders v Crusaders (2 April 2021):

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                                        It be seems 6 players stood down for the Highlanders
                                        Ioane again

                                        *"Brown explained that the players had "broken the code" of the team and were dropped as a result.

                                        "There's six guys who are unavailable through letting the team down around their standards; broke the code that we live by and it's all around their professional habits," he said."*

                                        damn it

                                        Seems to be a culture problem at the Highlanders
                                        Josh Ioane seems to be involved a lot in that stuff
                                        Good on Tony Brown for putting his foot on it.

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                                        • Kiwiwomble
                                          Kiwiwomble @Chris last edited by

                                          @chris yeah, its pretty disappointing, culture was one of the things the Highlanders have normally been proud of but it definitely looks like there are some trouble makers

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                                          • Stargazer
                                            Stargazer last edited by

                                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124709101/super-rugby-aotearoa-highlanders-drop-six-players-for-breaching-team-standards

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                                            • Chris
                                              Chris last edited by Chris

                                              Bridge starting this week Reece on the bench
                                              [link text](linkhttps://www.crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/george-bridge-returns-crusaders-team-named-to-play-the-highlanders/ url)

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                                              • Kiwiwomble
                                                Kiwiwomble @Chris last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                                @chris damn...that backline

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                                                • Chris
                                                  Chris @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                  @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                  @chris damn...that backline

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                                                  Yeah surprised we didn't rest many players Hall and Reece on the bench.

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                                                  • taniwharugby
                                                    taniwharugby @Stargazer last edited by

                                                    @stargazer Ioane was benched last year for breaching Otago rules

                                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300140000/mitre-10-cup-otago-axe-josh-ioane-vili-koroi-after-alcoholrelated-incident

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                                                    • Chris
                                                      Chris @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                      @taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                      @stargazer Ioane was benched last year for breaching Otago rules

                                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300140000/mitre-10-cup-otago-axe-josh-ioane-vili-koroi-after-alcoholrelated-incident

                                                      Turned up pissed at training with Koro

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                                                        nostrildamus @Chris last edited by

                                                        Ioane! It is not like the ABs have a wagonload of 10s...these incidents aren't going to build him a great rep.. as for MMT, what a shame, I thought he had higher potential.

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                                                        • taniwharugby
                                                          taniwharugby last edited by taniwharugby

                                                          some fans on FB see the team, and rip into the coaches for chopping and changing and rip into the players selected, clearly having not read why the team is understrength, was a couple who read it saying they should deal with these guys internally and not punish the fans by not selecting the strongest team.

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                                                          • Bovidae
                                                            Bovidae last edited by

                                                            DLB is injured so wasn't going to be picked anyway. But he still ends up on the naughty boys list.

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                                                            • Kiwiwomble
                                                              Kiwiwomble @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                              @taniwharugby i wont bag the coaches for not selecting these guys but i do want to know what the deal with Aliamalo is though, he was a big signing but we've only seen him once

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                                                              • Stargazer
                                                                Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                                                We have no idea what the breach of protocol was and the role in that from each individual player involved, so let's not jump to conclusions. MMT still has high potential. Josh Ioane, okay, he's a repeat offender, but he can still redeem himself by playing well. The others will probably never be All Blacks, but can still be good SR players.

                                                                Let's not pretend that other players (including ABs) are saints and have never done anything wrong. This has come out because the Highlanders coaches have decided to make public there was a breach of protocol, but coaches of other squads may face the same issues and chose to deal with it differently and behind closed doors.

                                                                No need to make a mountain out of a molehill (based on limited info).

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                                                                  MN5 @Stargazer last edited by MN5

                                                                  @stargazer said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                                  We have no idea what the breach of protocol was and the role in that from each individual player involved, so let's not jump to conclusions. MMT still has high potential. Josh Ioane, okay, he's a repeat offender, but he can still redeem himself by playing well. The others will probably never be All Blacks, but can still be good SR players.

                                                                  Let's not pretend that other players (including ABs) are saints and have never done anything wrong. This has come out because the Highlanders coaches have decided to make public there was a breach of protocol, but coaches of other squads may face the same issues and chose to deal with it differently and behind closed doors.

                                                                  No need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

                                                                  Mils pissed in a bar.....Sivi hit his wife.....Zac got nude, punched someone and pissed in a bar......they all had great AB careers.

                                                                  Well, one definitely did anyway.

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                                                                    bobily2 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                    @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                                    @taniwharugby i wont bag the coaches for not selecting these guys but i do want to know what the deal with Aliamalo is though, he was a big signing but we've only seen him once

                                                                    Brown said neither Alaimalo nor Milner-Skudder were in the selection picture for the Hurricanes game, with Alaimalo “unwell” and a few weeks away from playing.

                                                                    “He's still a few weeks off coming back in and being at his best,” Brown said of Alaimalo. “He's actually a bit unwell at the moment, so we're not able to select him.”

                                                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124638867/super-rugby-aotearoa-highlanders-hopeful-wing-jona-nareki-can-face-hurricanes

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                                                                    • Kiwiwomble
                                                                      Kiwiwomble @Stargazer last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                                                      @stargazer i get the sentiment but i think getting stepped down for a game does suggest its more than a molehill

                                                                      i don't think anyone on here is calling for them to be sacked or something, as i a highlanders fan im just a bit disappointed they done something thats got them excluded from a big game, reminds me of highlanders teams of old, they get to the point where theyre too far off the pace and so just give up on the season

                                                                      @bobily2 oh yeah, forgot about that, wonder what he has to know he'll be unwell for weeks

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                                                                      • Stargazer
                                                                        Stargazer @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                        @kiwiwomble I remember how the Hurricanes stood down a few of their players during their South Africa tour, including Ardie Savea, and left them out of the following game's line-up. IIRC, all they had done was returning to their hotel late (not being drunk). It can be something really simple.

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                                                                        • taniwharugby
                                                                          taniwharugby @Stargazer last edited by taniwharugby

                                                                          @stargazer team rules.

                                                                          Thats where team culture starts.

                                                                          We've all heard plenty of stories about things happening (at all levels) and often this ties in with teams having poor seasons.

                                                                          Just hope these guys are getting the mentoring they need too, I mean Ioane now has 2 marks on his career already (if he plays well enough, it wont stop him making the step into Black again) with 2 different teams

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                                                                          • Chris
                                                                            Chris last edited by

                                                                            Party at Ioanes place got out of hand cops were called etc

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                                                                            • taniwharugby
                                                                              taniwharugby @Chris last edited by taniwharugby

                                                                              @chris must be a 1st 5 thing, used to be party's at Tony Browns

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                                                                              • Chris
                                                                                Chris @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                                @taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                                                @chris must be a 1st 5 thing, used to be party's at Tony Browns

                                                                                Good point

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                                                                                • Yeetyaah
                                                                                  Yeetyaah last edited by

                                                                                  Ridiculous call. Jordan should be in the bin.

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                                                                                  • KiwiMurph
                                                                                    KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                                    What the actual fuck

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