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    @catogrande said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @stargazer said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    THE BRITISH & IRISH LIONS

    15 Stuart Hogg (Exeter Chiefs, Scotland) #783
    14 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816
    13 Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822
    12 Robbie Henshaw (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #824
    11 Duhan van der Merwe (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #841
    10 Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821
    9 Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #843

    1 Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842
    2 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) #851
    3 Tadhg Furlong (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #818
    4 Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825
    5 Alun Wyn Jones – captain (Ospreys, Wales) #761
    6 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826
    7 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853
    8 Jack Conan (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #839

    Replacements:
    16 Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829
    17 Rory Sutherland (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #840
    18 Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814
    19 Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838
    20 Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland) #847
    21 Conor Murray (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790
    22 Owen Farrell (Saracens, England) #780
    23 Liam Williams (Scarlets, Wales) #833

    https://www.lionsrugby.com/2021/07/21/lions-team-to-face-springboks-for-first-test/

    Oh and memo to Josh Adams: must try harder. A few tries might help.

    That's the problem with the youth these days, in their rooms online instead of being outside playing.

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    Surprised at that Lions Back Row and Price at Half Back. Might have found a place for Aki. The rest looks spot on. Lions Props all very strong.

    My prediction is the Boks by less than 7.

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    @bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    This feels like a Lions team with the best "spread" across all countries for quite a while - would that be right?

    Can't remember a spread across the four nations like that since 1997 Lions.

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    @bones I mean that Kolbe is a stepper and lightning fast while van der Merwe takes a while to get going and has the turning circle of a tanker.

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    @bovidae said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @bones I mean that Kolbe is a stepper and lightning fast while van der Merwe takes a while to get going and has the turning circle of a tanker.

    Yeah I was about to say that, lookng forward to VDM been shown up for the oil tanker he is!

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    Go Gryffindor

    hogg.jpg

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    @bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Looking at the teams gut feel is Bokke will take this.

    What time is kick off?

    Imagine what an in form Australia England would do to them though.

    FIFY

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    @stargazer said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    What time is kick off?

    Sat 24 July 2021, 6.00pm local time
    Sun 25 July 2021, 4.00am NZT

    Thanks Gazer. Will watch "on demand". But gee a 2am ko

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    @sparky said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Surprised at that Lions Back Row and Price at Half Back. Might have found a place for Aki. The rest looks spot on. Lions Props all very strong.

    My prediction is the Boks by less than 7.

    You like that back 3?

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    @booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Looking at the teams gut feel is Bokke will take this.

    What time is kick off?

    Imagine what an in form Australia England would do to them though.

    FIFY

    But Australia beat France!

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    @gibbonrib Would have gone with Hogg and Watson for sure. Might have had Adams or Williams ahead of VDM but there is no denying that he has some gas for a big man.

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    @bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Looking at the teams gut feel is Bokke will take this.

    What time is kick off?

    Imagine what an in form Australia England would do to them though.

    FIFY

    But Australia beat France!

    France B C

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    @machpants said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @bovidae said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @bones I mean that Kolbe is a stepper and lightning fast while van der Merwe takes a while to get going and has the turning circle of a tanker.

    Yeah I was about to say that, lookng forward to VDM been shown up for the oil tanker he is!

    Pasty Scots and bleached hair are an uneasy mix

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    @sparky That's my big worry. Our proven fatties sits on the bench. Ox will be fine but Trevor is a big worry. Daan Human our scrum guru coached him at the Bulls, so hopefully it's a Rassie trick. If we survive no scrum penalty in the 1st half, the test will be done.

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    @catogrande said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @stargazer said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    THE BRITISH & IRISH LIONS

    15 Stuart Hogg (Exeter Chiefs, Scotland) #783
    14 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816
    13 Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822
    12 Robbie Henshaw (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #824
    11 Duhan van der Merwe (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #841
    10 Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821
    9 Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #843

    1 Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842
    2 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) #851
    3 Tadhg Furlong (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #818
    4 Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825
    5 Alun Wyn Jones – captain (Ospreys, Wales) #761
    6 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826
    7 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853
    8 Jack Conan (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #839

    Replacements:
    16 Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829
    17 Rory Sutherland (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #840
    18 Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814
    19 Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838
    20 Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland) #847
    21 Conor Murray (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790
    22 Owen Farrell (Saracens, England) #780
    23 Liam Williams (Scarlets, Wales) #833

    https://www.lionsrugby.com/2021/07/21/lions-team-to-face-springboks-for-first-test/

    You can make an argument for each selection individually but equally or more so for some of the guys left out. What I don’t like is the balance over the back 5 forwards over the squad. You have Itoje, Lawes and Beirne who can all play lock or 6 but no cover at 8? Sure, Curry has played 8 for England and played well but really just played his usual game.

    Not convinced.

    Oh and memo to Josh Adams: must try harder. A few tries might help.

    I actually like the BIL starting pack. The loose forward trio has a bit of steel to them. The biggest thing will be Itoje not getting penalised off the park by the infamous Nic Berry

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    @act-crusader funny you'd say that, I actually think they got the loose-trio wrong. Curry I agree with, but not so much the other two.

    I don't see what the Lawes selection brings, for all the talk about his physicality and brawn I have never seen him have great game. I have been massively impressed by Beirne on tour and even in the six nations and if I had to choose between the two players it would even be close.

    Conan seems like gimmick selection. Gatland wanted the best athlete he could find but I haven't seen anything so far on tour to suggest that he will be able to impose himself on the Springbok defence. I don't know if Gatland had any better options available to him.

    Having said that there is now 1000 per cent chance those two are going tear it up this weekend.

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    @sidbarret I thought Lawes had a pretty good 6N. I'd pick him over Itoje...

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    @sidbarret said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @act-crusader funny you'd say that, I actually think they got the loose-trio wrong. Curry I agree with, but not so much the other two.

    I don't see what the Lawes selection brings, for all the talk about his physicality and brawn I have never seen him have great game. I have been massively impressed by Beirne on tour and even in the six nations and if I had to choose between the two players it would even be close.

    Conan seems like gimmick selection. Gatland wanted the best athlete he could find but I haven't seen anything so far on tour to suggest that he will be able to impose himself on the Springbok defence. I don't know if Gatland had any better options available to him.

    Having said that there is now 1000 per cent chance those two are going tear it up this weekend.

    Lawes is there if AWJ breaks early

    He'll be warmed up and slip straight into second row.

    On comes Beirne at 6

    If the Lawes (Beirne), Curry, Conan combo isn't working then on comes Watson either as a direct replacement for Curry or in addition to Curry to pick up the tempo

    Second scenario Watson replaces Conan and Curry goes to 8

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    @bones yeah sure, but Itoje was pretty rubbish in the 6n so that isn't saying much

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    @sidbarret said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @bones yeah sure, but Itoje was pretty rubbish in the 6n so that isn't saying much

    Odd you say that. In the two matches where pretty much the whole team went missing -v Scotland and v Ireland, Itoje was our one bright spark, belying all the excuses of either not enough rugby (Sarries boys) or too much rugby (everyone else). He did get pinged a fair bit but that was understandable if he’s the only bugger putting himself about.

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