Jacinda resigned
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@Smudge said in Jacinda resigned:
@mariner4life said in Jacinda resigned:
@Smudge said in Jacinda resigned:
But I'm in Queenstown for a wedding
not quite a humble brag, but maybe a subtle brag?
I try not to be humble about anything.
But yes, basically my Friday is better than yours (even if I'm working while here).
Just did the Lake Dunstan cycle trail. Really really good one day ride, strongly recommend. So yeah, Friday not bad either😀
Central Otago is superb... well, the whole South Island really. Great part of the world
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@mariner4life said in Jacinda resigned:
@Smudge said in Jacinda resigned:
But I'm in Queenstown for a wedding
not quite a humble brag, but maybe a subtle brag?
She did say it was time to get married.
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@nzzp said in Jacinda resigned:
Central Otago is superb... well, the whole South Island really. Great part of the world
That drive from Dunners to Queenstown via the Clutha Valley is absolute fucking magic - did it back in early 2019 and it was a great way to spend a summer's day. Family got sick of me wanting to pull over and just look at the scenery.
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Hey all, Jegga here. Forgot my passwod and wanted to join in the celebrations.
There was an exchange between Amber Heard and Johnny Depps lawyer during their recent trial which I thought summed up Ardern nicely. His lawyer was asking if she ever actually gave the money to the ACLU and she kept replying that she had "pledged it" . Basically she'd told everyone she was going to do it, soaked up all the praise but never bothered with the messy business of actually following through. Ardern made lots of "pledges" during her reign of error .
She pledged to build 10000 houses a year, there's around 1800 kiwibuild houses now. when they should be 40000 plus. She pledged to get 1 billion trees planted , that went the way of kiwibuild . She pledged to build Auckland light rail and have it completed by 2023 -it hasn't even started
She said ending child poverty was the reason she got into politics and we have kids who've never known anything but living in the festering sores that are the social housing motels. and child poverty got worse under her watch. Being able to claim a refund on rental interest was effectively a subsidy on rent, Labours hatred of landlords is second only to their loathing of farmers and rents have skyrocketed since the removed the refund .
In the meantime whenever there was a photo op of her dishing out a hug she was always front and centre . Particularly if it was going to get international coverage. The cynicism of her tearing up when she decided to have a press conference about Grace Millanes death only to lose interest when it came out that she was travelling the world hooking with strangers for b and d sessions was pretty gross and I'll never be convinced that she ever held that press conference for any other reason that to push her brand overseas where she was lauded as the "anti Trump".
Key being on Letterman was regarded as cringe by the same people who had no problem with her sucking up to Colbert and even flying him out here at taxpayers expense .She was always looking for that international audience despite the fact she shamelessly tried to pretend she was uncomfortable with it.
The Branch Ardernians who have spent the past 24 hours distraught over her resigning have made utter fools of themselves saying things like "no pm has faced the challenges she did" .
Christchurch shootings- made one speech you'd expect of any western world leader , wore a hijab and rushed through legislation that overnight created a lucrative black market for firearms.
White island - no idea why she gets credit for this, apart from getting photographed hugging some rescue workers she deserves nothing for this. The son of a guy at work was involved in the body recovery, I'll ask on tuesday but I'm fairly certain he would have mentioned if Ardern was there helping scoop up the disintrgrating corpses.
Covid,- almost fucked up isolating one of the most isolated countries on earth to get international attention with the march 19 commemoration the Muslim community didn't want. . Forgot to set up miq until well into the lockdown when Simon Bridges forced her to then fucked up the vaccine rollout which resulted in the preventable 2021 lockdown .
A real leader of the calibre people claim she is would have fronted and taken the hit for the continual fuckups at the border rather than throw the likes of a kfc worker under the bus and would have visited Auckland during their extended lockdown.Its a continuing theme of Arderns reign that when she avoided fronting up and tainting her brand and the media she doled out millions to prop up certainly helped her avoid the tough questions. She never fronted at Ihumatao, when David Clark was caught mountain biking she missed her first 1 pm press conference for an emergency zoom chat with Nigel Latta, the list just goes on.
I think she knew she was going to lose the next election when the parliament protests happened . She was always really the pm for the laptop class who could work from home and think posting a black square on instagram is an actual protest. Here she was confronted by the poors who'd left their homes to work in level 3 and in some cases level 4 and they loathed her government .Stuff and the rest of the media soiled themselves calling them white supremacists and far right when they themselves were never able to crop their photos hard enough to exclude the brown people there and a curia poll showed 45% of them voted Labour/green. As usual she never fronted while her mates in the media lied and lied about the protesters
I'm not surprised she quit, like Key she's too much of a narcissist to take an election loss . The threats she faced as pm being used an excuse are no worse than the crap Key got thrown his way and she leaves behind a country in far worse shape than the one she took over in 2017. We're more divided than any time since the Springbok tour trust in institutions has plummeted -particularly the media .
We live in a country now where a serial rapist gets 6 months home detention , gangs are effectively NGOs and violent crime is rampant, the health system is in freefall as nurses and doctors leave and preteens make tictocs of themselves ramraiding vape shops. Her supporters in the laptop class seem oblivious to this reality that her leadership is responsible for .
Hers was a government for the professional managerial class who she gave subsidised Teslas to paid with a tax on tradies and farmers work vehicles, she gave $650 million to business to decarbon but couldn't be bothered bringing in free dental care which cost the same amount .I hope Labour are soundly beaten at the next election and are out of office until they expunge the career politicians like Ardern that have never worked a day outside of politics ,.I hope National strip the media of the PJIF and Stuff goes bankrupt because few people have helped prop up Ardern more than Sinead Boucher . I'm not expecting much from National, I don't care if Luxon doesn't make inspiring speeches. or talk utter bullshit about "kindness " or "well being". I'd happily settle for a base level of administrative competence ,
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@dogmeat said in Jacinda resigned:
I didn't vote for Adern and probably wouldn't have this year. The fact I say probably illustrates how shit I think National still are.
I do get the criticism of the angst-ridden, hand wringing persona but I think, on balance, I'd rather have a 'compassionate' leader than a callous one.
What I don't quite get is the criticism that she's done nothing when the reality is that in amongst all the Mosque attacks, White Island, Covid, Inflation crisis there has been major reform of employment law - including minimum wage sick leave and collective bargaining, the health sector, climate policy, three waters, co-governance, Te Arawhiti. That's off the top of my head. That's actually a lot of quite substantive changes. The issue is she hasn't taken the country with her and the response from a minority has been quite polarising and divisive.
The issue for Ardern is she hasn't done enough to satisfy the Labour Party's left wing, but way too much for the general electorate to stomach.
The reality is that if there had been time for the changes to bed in it is possible that people would have discovered they didn't mean the end of days, but she was never going to get that time because people want to draw a line under the last three years and one way of closure is to change the government.
Nice to have a contrary view but some of these policies are utter garbage and ifyou point me to some successes in health I'd be interested hearing them. My current client is in charge of the neo natal unit at Wellington hospital and what shes told me about staff shortages was frankly terrifying
Ultimately like Key she was too much of a coward to use up her considerable political capital on making hard calls one way or the other in a lot of cases and thats 100% on her. I don't see how any objective analysis. If you take out the short termers like Palmer, Moore, Shipley and English she's the worst pm since Muldoon and its not even close.
Hard to believe we went from 18 years of reasonably stable effective governance with Key and Clark to this tragicomic farce.
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@paremata said in Jacinda resigned:
Hey all, Jegga here. Forgot my passwod and wanted to join in the celebrations.
There was an exchange between Amber Heard and Johnny Depps lawyer during their recent trial which I thought summed up Ardern nicely. His lawyer was asking if she ever actually gave the money to the ACLU and she kept replying that she had "pledged it" . Basically she'd told everyone she was going to do it, soaked up all the praise but never bothered with the messy business of actually following through. Ardern made lots of "pledges" during her reign of error .
She pledged to build 10000 houses a year, there's around 1800 kiwibuild houses now. when they should be 40000 plus. She pledged to get 1 billion trees planted , that went the way of kiwibuild . She pledged to build Auckland light rail and have it completed by 2023 -it hasn't even started
She said ending child poverty was the reason she got into politics and we have kids who've never known anything but living in the festering sores that are the social housing motels. and child poverty got worse under her watch. Being able to claim a refund on rental interest was effectively a subsidy on rent, Labours hatred of landlords is second only to their loathing of farmers and rents have skyrocketed since the removed the refund .
In the meantime whenever there was a photo op of her dishing out a hug she was always front and centre . Particularly if it was going to get international coverage. The cynicism of her tearing up when she decided to have a press conference about Grace Millanes death only to lose interest when it came out that she was travelling the world hooking with strangers for b and d sessions was pretty gross and I'll never be convinced that she ever held that press conference for any other reason that to push her brand overseas where she was lauded as the "anti Trump".
Key being on Letterman was regarded as cringe by the same people who had no problem with her sucking up to Colbert and even flying him out here at taxpayers expense .She was always looking for that international audience despite the fact she shamelessly tried to pretend she was uncomfortable with it.
The Branch Ardernians who have spent the past 24 hours distraught over her resigning have made utter fools of themselves saying things like "no pm has faced the challenges she did" .
Christchurch shootings- made one speech you'd expect of any western world leader , wore a hijab and rushed through legislation that overnight created a lucrative black market for firearms.
White island - no idea why she gets credit for this, apart from getting photographed hugging some rescue workers she deserves nothing for this. The son of a guy at work was involved in the body recovery, I'll ask on tuesday but I'm fairly certain he would have mentioned if Ardern was there helping scoop up the disintrgrating corpses.
Covid,- almost fucked up isolating one of the most isolated countries on earth to get international attention with the march 19 commemoration the Muslim community didn't want. . Forgot to set up miq until well into the lockdown when Simon Bridges forced her to then fucked up the vaccine rollout which resulted in the preventable 2021 lockdown .
A real leader of the calibre people claim she is would have fronted and taken the hit for the continual fuckups at the border rather than throw the likes of a kfc worker under the bus and would have visited Auckland during their extended lockdown.Its a continuing theme of Arderns reign that when she avoided fronting up and tainting her brand and the media she doled out millions to prop up certainly helped her avoid the tough questions. She never fronted at Ihumatao, when David Clark was caught mountain biking she missed her first 1 pm press conference for an emergency zoom chat with Nigel Latta, the list just goes on.
I think she knew she was going to lose the next election when the parliament protests happened . She was always really the pm for the laptop class who could work from home and think posting a black square on instagram is an actual protest. Here she was confronted by the poors who'd left their homes to work in level 3 and in some cases level 4 and they loathed her government .Stuff and the rest of the media soiled themselves calling them white supremacists and far right when they themselves were never able to crop their photos hard enough to exclude the brown people there and a curia poll showed 45% of them voted Labour/green. As usual she never fronted while her mates in the media lied and lied about the protesters
I'm not surprised she quit, like Key she's too much of a narcissist to take an election loss . The threats she faced as pm being used an excuse are no worse than the crap Key got thrown his way and she leaves behind a country in far worse shape than the one she took over in 2017. We're more divided than any time since the Springbok tour trust in institutions has plummeted -particularly the media .
We live in a country now where a serial rapist gets 6 months home detention , gangs are effectively NGOs and violent crime is rampant, the health system is in freefall as nurses and doctors leave and preteens make tictocs of themselves ramraiding vape shops. Her supporters in the laptop class seem oblivious to this reality that her leadership is responsible for .
Hers was a government for the professional managerial class who she gave subsidised Teslas to paid with a tax on tradies and farmers work vehicles, she gave $650 million to business to decarbon but couldn't be bothered bringing in free dental care which cost the same amount .I hope Labour are soundly beaten at the next election and are out of office until they expunge the career politicians like Ardern that have never worked a day outside of politics ,.I hope National strip the media of the PJIF and Stuff goes bankrupt because few people have helped prop up Ardern more than Sinead Boucher . I'm not expecting much from National, I don't care if Luxon doesn't make inspiring speeches. or talk utter bullshit about "kindness " or "well being". I'd happily settle for a base level of administrative competence ,
Welcome back bro
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@paremata said in Jacinda resigned:
Hey all, Jegga here. Forgot my passwod and wanted to join in the celebrations.
There was an exchange between Amber Heard and Johnny Depps lawyer during their recent trial which I thought summed up Ardern nicely. His lawyer was asking if she ever actually gave the money to the ACLU and she kept replying that she had "pledged it" . Basically she'd told everyone she was going to do it, soaked up all the praise but never bothered with the messy business of actually following through. Ardern made lots of "pledges" during her reign of error .
She pledged to build 10000 houses a year, there's around 1800 kiwibuild houses now. when they should be 40000 plus. She pledged to get 1 billion trees planted , that went the way of kiwibuild . She pledged to build Auckland light rail and have it completed by 2023 -it hasn't even started
She said ending child poverty was the reason she got into politics and we have kids who've never known anything but living in the festering sores that are the social housing motels. and child poverty got worse under her watch. Being able to claim a refund on rental interest was effectively a subsidy on rent, Labours hatred of landlords is second only to their loathing of farmers and rents have skyrocketed since the removed the refund .
In the meantime whenever there was a photo op of her dishing out a hug she was always front and centre . Particularly if it was going to get international coverage. The cynicism of her tearing up when she decided to have a press conference about Grace Millanes death only to lose interest when it came out that she was travelling the world hooking with strangers for b and d sessions was pretty gross and I'll never be convinced that she ever held that press conference for any other reason that to push her brand overseas where she was lauded as the "anti Trump".
Key being on Letterman was regarded as cringe by the same people who had no problem with her sucking up to Colbert and even flying him out here at taxpayers expense .She was always looking for that international audience despite the fact she shamelessly tried to pretend she was uncomfortable with it.
The Branch Ardernians who have spent the past 24 hours distraught over her resigning have made utter fools of themselves saying things like "no pm has faced the challenges she did" .
Christchurch shootings- made one speech you'd expect of any western world leader , wore a hijab and rushed through legislation that overnight created a lucrative black market for firearms.
White island - no idea why she gets credit for this, apart from getting photographed hugging some rescue workers she deserves nothing for this. The son of a guy at work was involved in the body recovery, I'll ask on tuesday but I'm fairly certain he would have mentioned if Ardern was there helping scoop up the disintrgrating corpses.
Covid,- almost fucked up isolating one of the most isolated countries on earth to get international attention with the march 19 commemoration the Muslim community didn't want. . Forgot to set up miq until well into the lockdown when Simon Bridges forced her to then fucked up the vaccine rollout which resulted in the preventable 2021 lockdown .
A real leader of the calibre people claim she is would have fronted and taken the hit for the continual fuckups at the border rather than throw the likes of a kfc worker under the bus and would have visited Auckland during their extended lockdown.Its a continuing theme of Arderns reign that when she avoided fronting up and tainting her brand and the media she doled out millions to prop up certainly helped her avoid the tough questions. She never fronted at Ihumatao, when David Clark was caught mountain biking she missed her first 1 pm press conference for an emergency zoom chat with Nigel Latta, the list just goes on.
I think she knew she was going to lose the next election when the parliament protests happened . She was always really the pm for the laptop class who could work from home and think posting a black square on instagram is an actual protest. Here she was confronted by the poors who'd left their homes to work in level 3 and in some cases level 4 and they loathed her government .Stuff and the rest of the media soiled themselves calling them white supremacists and far right when they themselves were never able to crop their photos hard enough to exclude the brown people there and a curia poll showed 45% of them voted Labour/green. As usual she never fronted while her mates in the media lied and lied about the protesters
I'm not surprised she quit, like Key she's too much of a narcissist to take an election loss . The threats she faced as pm being used an excuse are no worse than the crap Key got thrown his way and she leaves behind a country in far worse shape than the one she took over in 2017. We're more divided than any time since the Springbok tour trust in institutions has plummeted -particularly the media .
We live in a country now where a serial rapist gets 6 months home detention , gangs are effectively NGOs and violent crime is rampant, the health system is in freefall as nurses and doctors leave and preteens make tictocs of themselves ramraiding vape shops. Her supporters in the laptop class seem oblivious to this reality that her leadership is responsible for .
Hers was a government for the professional managerial class who she gave subsidised Teslas to paid with a tax on tradies and farmers work vehicles, she gave $650 million to business to decarbon but couldn't be bothered bringing in free dental care which cost the same amount .I hope Labour are soundly beaten at the next election and are out of office until they expunge the career politicians like Ardern that have never worked a day outside of politics ,.I hope National strip the media of the PJIF and Stuff goes bankrupt because few people have helped prop up Ardern more than Sinead Boucher . I'm not expecting much from National, I don't care if Luxon doesn't make inspiring speeches. or talk utter bullshit about "kindness " or "well being". I'd happily settle for a base level of administrative competence ,
It makes me feel very happy to hear that some stranger from 10,000 odd miles away is back around (and still alive) on here again.
Welcome back and good on Jacinda for getting you back posting
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@gt12 said in Jacinda resigned:
@paremata said in Jacinda resigned:
Hey all, Jegga here. Forgot my passwod and wanted to join in the celebrations.
There was an exchange between Amber Heard and Johnny Depps lawyer during their recent trial which I thought summed up Ardern nicely. His lawyer was asking if she ever actually gave the money to the ACLU and she kept replying that she had "pledged it" . Basically she'd told everyone she was going to do it, soaked up all the praise but never bothered with the messy business of actually following through. Ardern made lots of "pledges" during her reign of error .
She pledged to build 10000 houses a year, there's around 1800 kiwibuild houses now. when they should be 40000 plus. She pledged to get 1 billion trees planted , that went the way of kiwibuild . She pledged to build Auckland light rail and have it completed by 2023 -it hasn't even started
She said ending child poverty was the reason she got into politics and we have kids who've never known anything but living in the festering sores that are the social housing motels. and child poverty got worse under her watch. Being able to claim a refund on rental interest was effectively a subsidy on rent, Labours hatred of landlords is second only to their loathing of farmers and rents have skyrocketed since the removed the refund .
In the meantime whenever there was a photo op of her dishing out a hug she was always front and centre . Particularly if it was going to get international coverage. The cynicism of her tearing up when she decided to have a press conference about Grace Millanes death only to lose interest when it came out that she was travelling the world hooking with strangers for b and d sessions was pretty gross and I'll never be convinced that she ever held that press conference for any other reason that to push her brand overseas where she was lauded as the "anti Trump".
Key being on Letterman was regarded as cringe by the same people who had no problem with her sucking up to Colbert and even flying him out here at taxpayers expense .She was always looking for that international audience despite the fact she shamelessly tried to pretend she was uncomfortable with it.
The Branch Ardernians who have spent the past 24 hours distraught over her resigning have made utter fools of themselves saying things like "no pm has faced the challenges she did" .
Christchurch shootings- made one speech you'd expect of any western world leader , wore a hijab and rushed through legislation that overnight created a lucrative black market for firearms.
White island - no idea why she gets credit for this, apart from getting photographed hugging some rescue workers she deserves nothing for this. The son of a guy at work was involved in the body recovery, I'll ask on tuesday but I'm fairly certain he would have mentioned if Ardern was there helping scoop up the disintrgrating corpses.
Covid,- almost fucked up isolating one of the most isolated countries on earth to get international attention with the march 19 commemoration the Muslim community didn't want. . Forgot to set up miq until well into the lockdown when Simon Bridges forced her to then fucked up the vaccine rollout which resulted in the preventable 2021 lockdown .
A real leader of the calibre people claim she is would have fronted and taken the hit for the continual fuckups at the border rather than throw the likes of a kfc worker under the bus and would have visited Auckland during their extended lockdown.Its a continuing theme of Arderns reign that when she avoided fronting up and tainting her brand and the media she doled out millions to prop up certainly helped her avoid the tough questions. She never fronted at Ihumatao, when David Clark was caught mountain biking she missed her first 1 pm press conference for an emergency zoom chat with Nigel Latta, the list just goes on.
I think she knew she was going to lose the next election when the parliament protests happened . She was always really the pm for the laptop class who could work from home and think posting a black square on instagram is an actual protest. Here she was confronted by the poors who'd left their homes to work in level 3 and in some cases level 4 and they loathed her government .Stuff and the rest of the media soiled themselves calling them white supremacists and far right when they themselves were never able to crop their photos hard enough to exclude the brown people there and a curia poll showed 45% of them voted Labour/green. As usual she never fronted while her mates in the media lied and lied about the protesters
I'm not surprised she quit, like Key she's too much of a narcissist to take an election loss . The threats she faced as pm being used an excuse are no worse than the crap Key got thrown his way and she leaves behind a country in far worse shape than the one she took over in 2017. We're more divided than any time since the Springbok tour trust in institutions has plummeted -particularly the media .
We live in a country now where a serial rapist gets 6 months home detention , gangs are effectively NGOs and violent crime is rampant, the health system is in freefall as nurses and doctors leave and preteens make tictocs of themselves ramraiding vape shops. Her supporters in the laptop class seem oblivious to this reality that her leadership is responsible for .
Hers was a government for the professional managerial class who she gave subsidised Teslas to paid with a tax on tradies and farmers work vehicles, she gave $650 million to business to decarbon but couldn't be bothered bringing in free dental care which cost the same amount .I hope Labour are soundly beaten at the next election and are out of office until they expunge the career politicians like Ardern that have never worked a day outside of politics ,.I hope National strip the media of the PJIF and Stuff goes bankrupt because few people have helped prop up Ardern more than Sinead Boucher . I'm not expecting much from National, I don't care if Luxon doesn't make inspiring speeches. or talk utter bullshit about "kindness " or "well being". I'd happily settle for a base level of administrative competence ,
It makes me feel very happy to hear that some stranger from 10,000 odd miles away is back around (and still alive) on here again.
Welcome back and good on Jacinda for getting you back posting*
Damn right, if there’s one thing Cindy should be lauded for, it’s digging Jegga out from his self imposed exile.
All hail Queen Cindy.
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@paremata said in Jacinda resigned:
Hey all, Jegga here. Forgot my passwod and wanted to join in the celebrations.
There was an exchange between Amber Heard and Johnny Depps lawyer during their recent trial which I thought summed up Ardern nicely. His lawyer was asking if she ever actually gave the money to the ACLU and she kept replying that she had "pledged it" . Basically she'd told everyone she was going to do it, soaked up all the praise but never bothered with the messy business of actually following through. Ardern made lots of "pledges" during her reign of error .
At least Ardern didn't pledge to be in Aquaman. Amber sank that turkey.
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Ah the jeggameister.
Welcome back bro.
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@paremata said in Jacinda resigned:
Ultimately like Key she was too much of a coward to use up her considerable political capital on making hard calls one way or the other in a lot of cases and thats 100% on her.
Welcome back... Surely the Mods can hook you up with your old username.
Your point above is tough; MMP drives incrementalism. Key mastered it... Back down in anything unpopular like mining, and push death by a thousand cuts elsewhere. Clark arguably the same, but it was early days. Adern arguably did it too, with capital gains tax... Maybe some caucus intransigence on three waters and other major policies drove her decision.
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Politics everywhere is largely the same. Bulldoze through what you can, sneak through what you can't, and use your favourite media outlet to push your point (or distract from your failings).
Try to limit any departure from the middle ground, outwardly, at least.
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@NTA said in Jacinda resigned:
@MN5 said in Jacinda resigned:
Woohoooo ! He’s back.
Love the username by the way, best suburb on FUCKEN EARTH !
Maori version of Parramatta?
Fucken love the mata bro, it’s choice !
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@NTA said in Jacinda resigned:
@MN5 said in Jacinda resigned:
Woohoooo ! He’s back.
Love the username by the way, best suburb on FUCKEN EARTH !
Maori version of Parramatta?
British troops were stationed here in the 1840s, they named the barracks after the Parramatta barracks where they came from and then it got changed to what it is now
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@sparky said in Jacinda resigned:
Chris Hipkins to be the next Prime Minister of New Zealand. His is the only name nominated for the Labour Party leadership.
Some continuity in the level of integrity in the leadership then . This is the stain that released Charlotte Belliss details to the media to smear her and then only apologised the day after he stepped down from that ministry. If he had apologised the day before cabinet rules meant he would have had to resign . Where was the "empathy" and "kindness" when they illegally blocked her and more than 50 other women from returning to NZ to have their babies?
According to David Farrer polling suggests he's the only Labour mp with a positive approval rating , its a staggering 1% net approval though.
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@paremata said in Jacinda resigned:
@NTA said in Jacinda resigned:
@MN5 said in Jacinda resigned:
Woohoooo ! He’s back.
Love the username by the way, best suburb on FUCKEN EARTH !
Maori version of Parramatta?
British troops were stationed here in the 1840s, they named the barracks after the Parramatta barracks where they came from and then it got changed to what it is now
Over round the pauahatanui inlet aye ?
We get lovely views over that way