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    @Machpants said in Springboks v Pumas RC WK 3-:

    Kirwan had an interesting take on how to card this, and high tackles, on Breakdown

    what was that?

    My initial reaction was 'red' - but then I kinda got the argument that he charged down the ball. I didn't necessarily agree, but could see it.

    It is a weird one; seems like there's only 'Red' or 'Play on' with nothing in between. There are some weird rules about players jumping though, highlighted in Lions 2 2017 with the final penalty...

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    The league rules where you have to aim at the feet with a dive, not leap into the air and turn your hip into their head. The tackle one was make the card basically based on how low the tackler is. Not sure I totally agree. It's on YouTube, last ten mins or so

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    So the Argentinian fullback got 2 week ban for cleaning out the Bokke 9.

    Basically, they concluded that while he smoked the kicker, he charged the ball down, so it was a low end penalty. Honestly don't know what I think about it; it feels like a weird zone in the laws.

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    @nzzp said in Springboks v Pumas RC WK 3-:

    So the Argentinian fullback got 2 week ban for cleaning out the Bokke 9.

    Basically, they concluded that while he smoked the kicker, he charged the ball down, so it was a low end penalty. Honestly don't know what I think about it; it feels like a weird zone in the laws.

    Jesus, they really need to make their fucking minds up

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    They have to sort out the risk reward ratio

    Pronto

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    @MiketheSnow said in Springboks v Pumas RC WK 3:

    They have to sort out the risk reward ratio

    Pronto

    World Rugby just want to look like they're doing something, not actually doing something

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    First time I've seen it.

    Makes me think about players competing under a high ball.

    Player jumping in has responsibility to protect players in position to catch the ball. You don't get a free pass just for keeping your eye on the ball.

    Similar in a tackle. Players have responsibility to avoid the head.

    Not sure if I have articulated That well.

    That was reckless. Red and 4 weeks.

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    such a shambles really, he actually made the charge down too, yet he has knocked someone out...

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    @booboo said in Springboks v Pumas RC WK 3:

    Player jumping in has responsibility to protect players in position to catch the ball. You don't get a free pass just for keeping your eye on the ball.

    Yeah - wondering if the degree of responsibility needs to be tied to horizontal velocity. If you are stationary or moving slowly/jumping upwards, then you introduce low risk. People flying in at full speed and jumping are where the real risks happen - maybe that should be a contributing factor to responsibility.

    Have not thought this through, just musing. The high ball work seems an absolute lottery at the moment.

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    actually, following up my post, maybe that's a way of dealign with the risk elements. If you go in hard, you have some responsibilty - so standing and 'soaking' is a mitigation compared to flying in shoulder first.

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