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    Machpants
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    It's a real pity no one tracks penalty advantages as well

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    @Machpants said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Gunner said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    I’d like to see the penalty count.

    Really surprised no one else is talking about how shocking the Blues discipline was.

    For me it was the biggest difference, if the Blues didn’t give away so many penalties, they’d have won.

    13 v 8, according to ESPN

    That surprises me, I feel like the Blues gave away a lot more than that.

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    Blues are still top I guess on points difference

    Crusaders kept their chances alive

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    @Gunner That's because our scrum was under real pressure for the first time this year.

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    @Gunner said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Machpants said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Gunner said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    I’d like to see the penalty count.

    Really surprised no one else is talking about how shocking the Blues discipline was.

    For me it was the biggest difference, if the Blues didn’t give away so many penalties, they’d have won.

    13 v 8, according to ESPN

    That surprises me, I feel like the Blues gave away a lot more than that.

    Perhaps some advantages that didn't eventuate in pens?

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    @KiwiMurph said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Gunner said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Machpants said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Gunner said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    I’d like to see the penalty count.

    Really surprised no one else is talking about how shocking the Blues discipline was.

    For me it was the biggest difference, if the Blues didn’t give away so many penalties, they’d have won.

    13 v 8, according to ESPN

    That surprises me, I feel like the Blues gave away a lot more than that.

    Perhaps some advantages that didn't eventuate in pens?

    Yes definitely, a couple of advantages ended in tries.

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    @African-Monkey said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    Thankfully we shouldn't encounter another scrum as good again, they beat us badly there.

    Canes if we get Lomax back. And no more injuries

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    Well I think you have to be a bit pleased for Crusaders win for their supporters'
    And I mean the ones that go to game, they have had good crowds all yearm and that's what proper supporters do, go and cheer support their team by being there regardless of how teams results are.

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    @Winger I still think our scrum will hold its own against Lomax as good as he is.

    Newell is the best scrummager in the country.

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    @African-Monkey lol Lomax is better than Newell. I’d take the Canes front row of Numia, Aumua and Lomax over the Saders front row any day.

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    @Dan54 said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    Well I think you have to be a bit pleased for Crusaders win for their supporters'
    And I mean the ones that go to game, they have had good crowds all yearm and that's what proper supporters do, go and cheer support their team by being there regardless of how teams results are.

    I care for them as much as I care for Brumbies supporters, which is to say not at all.

    Probably a welcome relief for Penney though to come out the other side with a deserved victory against the team on top of the table.

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    @Machpants said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Gunner said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    I’d like to see the penalty count.

    Really surprised no one else is talking about how shocking the Blues discipline was.

    For me it was the biggest difference, if the Blues didn’t give away so many penalties, they’d have won.

    13 v 8, according to ESPN

    14-6 according to JK during the aftermatch…

    How can the stats vary so much between providers?

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    @Canes4life said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @African-Monkey lol Lomax is better than Newell. I’d take the Canes front row of Numia, Aumua and Lomax over the Saders front row any day.

    @Canes4life said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @African-Monkey lol Lomax is better than Newell. I’d take the Canes front row of Numia, Aumua and Lomax over the Saders front row any day.

    I was waiting for you to come in and say that lol, very predictable.

    I like your front row, I just think Newell's the best scrummager in the country. Big deal.

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    @antipodean said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @African-Monkey said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    Well played Crusaders. Good wake up call for the Blues.

    Ta'avao is a bench scrummager despite his size. Eklund is too small to start when Riccitelli is available. Choat and Sotutu were poor. Perofeta stunk up the place.

    To expand on this, the Blues power game requires their biggest, most powerful bodies to create a platform where the likes of Choat and Eklund can add something off the bench. They're just not dominating enough to play that game to start with.

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    Well done Crusaders. Blues will rue starting several second stringers.

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    @African-Monkey Lomax is clearly no 1. He’s arguably the best in the world with the form he’s been in.

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    @Canes4life I'd start him over Newell and think he's a better player overall, but at scrumtime, I prefer Newell, big deal, and I think Lomax is also a very good scrummager.

    If Lomax didn't play for the Canes you wouldn't even react to what I'm saying lol, you don't have to act like a staunch one eyed Wellingtonian every time someone says something not in favour of one of your players haha.

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    @ARHS Good test to see where they're at. Not really fussed about losing, good to find out about some players and who our best side will be for next week onwards.

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    @Gunner said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    How can the stats vary so much between providers?

    I think Sky uses opta too? I know opta’s stats keep shifting after full time and settle down the following day

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    @African-Monkey said in Crusaders vs Blues:

    @Canes4life I'd start him over Newell and think he's a better player overall, but at scrumtime, I prefer Newell, big deal, and I think Lomax is also a very good scrummager.

    If Lomax didn't play for the Canes you wouldn't even react to what I'm saying lol, you don't have to act like a staunch one eyed Wellingtonian every time someone says something not in favour of one of your players haha.

    Newell ain’t bad at all but Lomax is the best scrummaging prop in NZ. It’s got nothing to do with being a Wellingtonian, he’s clearly shown that the last two seasons. The Blues were lucky he was pulled before the Canes game the other week.

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