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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

    @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

    less understanding from the rugby public if he's seen to have picked his favourites and ignored form picks

    again, this has always happened, although favorites probably not right, more that the coaches see things a bit different when trying to build thier team.

    Yep and the coaches know the players a lot better than the public and will think they can get the best out of whoever they select.

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    replied to Frank on last edited by
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to sparky on last edited by
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    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

    Hoskins is probably the favourite for it

    According to who or whom?

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  • FrankF Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Frank on last edited by
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    If the rumoured squad is true it's basically what you would do if you named a squad without having to make a tough decision.

    He refuses to select a 4th lock

    He refuses to drop a winger of the 4

    He refuses to name a captain

    He refuses to drop a high profile Crusader

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  • FrankF Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

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    replied to Frank on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #272

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    I'm not outraged by the way - I feel sorry for Sotutu but I can understand the logic of him not being selected.

    Some of the other rumoured selections (Havili and Bell).... not so much

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by Frank
    #273

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.

    Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
    And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald don't want him either.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Frank on last edited by
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

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    Victor Meldrew
    replied to Frank on last edited by
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    We need a Tight 5/Loose 3 coordination coach. The coaching team is clearly under-resourced.

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  • FrankF Offline
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    Frank
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

    And look how that went..................

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    replied to Frank on last edited by
    #277

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
    And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald (and Wayne Smith) don't want him with either.

    Hold on you said Razor selects the loosies. Now you've moved the goal posts. Nice one.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

    And look how that went..................

    As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

    My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

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  • FrankF Offline
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    Frank
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
    And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald (and Wayne Smith) don't want him with either.

    Hold on you said Razor selects the loosies. Now you've moved the goal posts. Nice one.

    He does.

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    Frank
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by Frank
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

    And look how that went..................

    As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

    My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

    For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
    Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

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    At the end of the day, it comes down to Ardie v Hoskins and it would be a big call not to have Ardie in the starting XV.

    So the question is whether Hoskins is in the 23 and covers 6 or replaces Ardie who moves to 7 ?

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

    And look how that went..................

    As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

    My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

    For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
    Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

    We are going around in circles here. I'll stop derailing the thread and think about the squad I'd name

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Grooter on last edited by
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    @Grooter said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph I'm not sure why Bower would be there, we can carry 5 props as Ofa & Tamaiti cover both sides, definitely think we need 4 locks incase S Barrett or Patrick were to get injured in the lead upto a Test

    Ofa and De groot have injury concerns,If they are unable to train 100% for a while it leaves 3 fit props, I can see why they have included a 6th prop in Bower.
    Live scrummaging etc can carry on to rest the props with niggles.

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  • FrankF Offline
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

    And look how that went..................

    As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

    My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

    For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
    Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

    We are going around in circles here. I'll stop derailing the thread and think about the squad I'd name

    Fair enough.
    Be sure to remember to name Sotutu.

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