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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Syria:
Massive win for Trump on the political side.
It is almost tailor made to show that he is a stronger president than Obama, sends a message to other countries... and was a pretty limited strike.There's definitely some political positives.
However he is going against some clear statements from his campaign.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Syria:
Massive win for Trump on the political side.
It is almost tailor made to show that he is a stronger president than Obama, sends a message to other countries... and was a pretty limited strike.There's definitely some political positives.
However he is going against some clear statements from his campaign.
I think a chemical weapons attack on children is the best (most sellable) reason he could get for changing position.
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To his credit he has been anti-intervention in civil wars (especially against the recognised government) for years and right up until this week. It was a position that I endorse, and I think that he would do well to continue with it.
I do not think that taking military action against both ISIS and Assad's military is in the interest of anyone in the west.
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Did Trump say that he would not get involved in Syria under any circumstances? If so, he's a massive hypocrite. On the other hand, should he do nothing?
That is the conundrum represented by the cluster fuck that is Syria. There is no good versus bad. The current regime is probably preferable to the guys they're fighting, but they use chemical weapons. It would seem that any course of action will have tragic consequences.
As an aside, I watched a doco on Saudia Arabia last night. Fark the middle east is a shit box.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel Military intervention is not the only option.
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To his credit he has been anti-intervention in civil wars (especially against the recognised government) for years and right up until this week. It was a position that I endorse, and I think that he would do well to continue with it.
I do not think that taking military action against both ISIS and Assad's military is in the interest of anyone in the west.
I agree in all aspects of that, but I dont have an issue with him changin his position, that doesnt make him a hypocrite. Those tweets are meaningless.
If people want to criticise intervening, that is a worthy discussion, but tweets from 4-5 years ago?
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It's easy to make a humanitarian argument in favour of military action. However he campaigned against this type of intervention just months ago
He borrowed the America First doctrine from Buchanan and now he's ditched that and adopted an 'establishment' Republican position that he was demonising
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I think Nicky Hagar should write a book about this attack, apparently people died!
especially as NZ knew about the attack prior...
•The US launched a cruise missile attack on Syrian government forces at about 12.30pm (NZT).
•The attack is in retaliation to a suspected chemical weapons attack against Syrian civilians earlier this week.
•Local Syrian governor says the missile strike resulted in deaths.
•This is the first direct attack on the Syrian government from the US.•US allies, including NZ, were notified before the attack.
•Bill English says he supports the US action.
•59 Tomahawk missiles, fired from warships in the Mediterranean Sea, targeted a Syrian air base believed to have been connected with the suspected chemical attack. -
The Middle East is farked. Assad doesn't do shit unless Putin says it's OK. Putin won't allow his man to go down
Which makes this move doubly interesting - depending entirely on who they're targeting - when Trump is Putin's rent boy.
A missile strike is a bit more token than boots on the ground. Hell of a token though....
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I thought the deal was that Iran was in control of Syria as they provide the majority of combat-ready soldiers on the ground (including Hezbollah and Shi’ite militia fighters).
It remains to be seen how effective this missile strike actually was. Trump warned Putin, who I'm sure warned Assad.
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