Harvey Weinstein
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@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
list of what? Women he propositioned? I hope the LA Times doesn't write a list of the women I've propositioned.
Some of the allegations aren't just propositioning. Rape, sexual assault and indecent exposure
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@duluth Perhaps @Salacious-Crumb could have linked to the source...
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@tim said in Harvey Weinstein:
Here's a fun read:
The bio for 30 year Republican Congressman and eight year House Republican leader Dennis Hastert:
Oh, he was also a child abuser who had been paying hush-money to victims.
Incredibly ---- today tone-deaf idiots Newsweek published a commentary from this sick child rapist. They're taking justified abuse from all sides.
Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert explains what's wrong with Trump's Congress
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List is growing. I'll update soon....
Not about Weinstein, but since we keep hearing about this being the "tip o' the iceberg," I highly recommend this absorbing documentary from 2014 called "An Open Secret" about child pedo rings in Hollywood, and not just beacuse it features a pitch-perfect length of Nick Cave's "Beautiful Creatures" from Murder Ballads. Bryan Singer, who did Usual Suspects, X-Men, etc. is busted.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
(Rose McGowan must be their worse nightmare about now...)
McGowan has thrown away the Non-Disclosure Agreement she was paid off $100K; says Harvey raped her.
Word is the Weinstein Company is nearing financial collapse, with-or-without the name-change. McGowan probably knows they won't have the money, let alone nerve, to slap a lawsuit on her for breach of the NDA.
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Looks like Amazon Studios honcho Roy Price will be facing his own set of allegations of sexual impropriety and his head is on the chopping block. Not sure whether his division is connected to that All Blacks doco series and/or bidding for future rugby test broadcasts. (Anybody...?). Interesting to see how deep this rabbithole goes...
Amazon Studios’ Roy Price Suspended Amid Sexual Harassment Claims; COO Albert Cheng Named Interim Boss
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The news comes as Hackett Dick, the daughter of Philip K. Dick, detailed to the Hollywood Reporter today exactly how and where Price propositioned her during Comic-Con 2015 in San Diego.
[...]"Propositioned"...? Very vague. I'd hate to think asking politely for a girl's phone number is now considered sexual harrassment, but we'll see how the details develop...
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@Salacious-Crumb I don't want my comment below to be in any way construed as an apologist defence of these creeps but in some quarters having a dick is considered sexual harassment
Just as some dicks consider having one is a licence to sexually harrass
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@dogmeat I'm totally underwhelmed by the apparent revelation that the casting couch still existed. The only thing I give a shit about is allegations of assault. And then only in a generic; "this shouldn't happen to anyone and the perpetrator should get what's coming" type of way.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
"Propositioned"...? Very vague. I'd hate to think asking politely for a girl's phone number is now considered sexual harrassment, but we'll see how the details develop...
Whoa. According to the Hollywood Reporter, that proposal Price made was, "You will love my dick," which sounds more like a command, but more likely a lame joke PUN if they happened to have been discussing a project based upon a work by her father Philip K. DICK (gettit?).
But uh-oh -- it gets worse...
[...] Hackett says she made clear to Price she was not interested and told him that she is a lesbian with a wife and children.
Hackett says Price did not relent in the cab or once they arrived at the Amazon party. As she talked with other executives, she says that Price stepped close to her and loudly said, “Anal sex!” in her ear. [...]
Loudly? In her ear? That does sound a little ... odd.
Btw Philip was a real nut in his later life, completely loony tunes, and maybe some of that genepool is making daughter paranoid and she didn't get the joke (?).
See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick#Paranormal_experiences_and_mental_health_issues
EDit: Even better, check out the genius comic book version, "The Religious Experience of Philip K. Dick" by Robert Crumb.
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As mentioned, Weinstein is just the tip of the iceberg and I wonder if this will be a Catholic Church style tsunami of allegations against the entire industry. I certainly hope so. Some justice for the victims and comeuppance to those hypocritical piston wristed gibbons who preach moral virtue for everyone else but themselves.
If these people were willing to defend and work together with a guy who analy raped a 13 year old then no wonder they were "ignorant" of Weinstein's antics.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
LA Times has come out with their preliminary list.
Asia Argento
Rosanna Arquette
Jessica Barth
Zoe Brock
Emma de Caunes
Cara Delavingne
Dawn Dunning
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
Louisette Geiss
Judith Godreche
Heather Graham
Angelina Jolie
Ashley Judd
Katherine Kendall
Rose McGowan
Emily Nestor
Lauren O'Connor
Gwyneth Paltrow
Tomi-Ann Roberts
Lauren Sivan
Mira Sorvino
Lucia StollerLook for it to grow...
Add:
An unnamed female assistant
Laura Madden
Zelda Perkins
An unnamed female employee
Lucia Evans
An unnamed actress
Romola Garai
Liz Campbell
Jessica Hynes
Kate Beckinsale
Louise Godbold
Lea Seydoux
Claire Forlani
Florence Darel
Sophie Dix37 and counting, w/ 4 accusations of rape.
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The world seems to be falling over the "outspoken" Emma Thompson's BBC Newsnight interview in which she mentions "the wider problem in the industry."
From the article linked below:
Asked whether there were other men like Weinstein hiding in the entertainment industry, Thompson said there were "many".
"Maybe not to that degree," she continued.
So why doesn't she live up to her "outspoken" nature and just go on and name some of the "many"? Even just the single worst one she knew of (after Weinstein)?
You can't tell me that, right now, if she named someone else whose behaviour was like Weinstein's and her allegations were true, many victims' stories would be flushed out. Surely any actor who'd been harassed in any way is currently effectively immune to career repercussions.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11932907
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Oliver Stone, come on down... you're next.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
(Rose McGowan must be their worse nightmare about now...)
McGowan has thrown away the Non-Disclosure Agreement she was paid off $100K; says Harvey raped her.
Word is the Weinstein Company is nearing financial collapse, with-or-without the name-change. McGowan probably knows they won't have the money, let alone nerve, to slap a lawsuit on her for breach of the NDA.
Genuine questiin can there be an enforceable agreement to suppress information about a crime?
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We're going to find out.
Disturbingly -- almost unbelievably -- Harvey had a sexual harrassment exemption WRITTEN INTO HIS EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT, and next week will be on video from his sex-therapy clinic in Arizona appealing to the Board of Directors to keep his job for wrongful dismissal.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11933171
This is the kind of thing victims are up against. The stakes are high and if you feel the chance of winning your day in court is minimal and the risk is loss of livelihood, reputation, everything, I can understand why everyone has kept quiet about HW this long. A prosecutor friend and I were chatting about something like this a while back and he said his firm did not waste top resources, ie their best barristers, on sexual assault he said she said cases because the win rate was so low. Sad but true
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@canefan said in Harvey Weinstein:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11933171
This is the kind of thing victims are up against. The stakes are high and if you feel the chance of winning your day in court is minimal and the risk is loss of livelihood, reputation, everything, I can understand why everyone has kept quiet about HW this long. A prosecutor friend and I were chatting about something like this a while back and he said his firm did not waste top resources, ie their best barristers, on sexual assault he said she said cases because the win rate was so low. Sad but true
Good. Because the alternative is even more of a nightmare.
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Not read full thread, but several random thoughts:
I may be being harsh, but to me many of the industry players coming out now to criticise HW seems a bit like the boy in Schindler's List who volunteers that the dead man stole the chicken. Instead they are culpable as they 'knew' many years ago and said nothing. That was the horrible reality of the Saville parallel.
Likewise, it is plain that HW is the tip of the iceberg. If there was a genuine desire to say something worthwhile insiders should now rather be taking the opportunity to come forward about the many others in the industry who do similar, even if maybe not as extreme as HW.
I can't help but wonder about the women who said yes to HW. There is a sizable list of no thanks, but you can bet your bottom dollar that the list of 'aspiring' ladies who took one for their careers runs in to the high hundreds. If that is right, it would be the case that he had a 'line' but it was much higher that most's and condoned the unacceptably forceful.
However, I suspect the dirty secret is that actresses as a whole have always been willing to put it about to further themselves, and that non-PC aspect is something the sisterhood is very quiet on.
Hope HW sees jail time.
And other similar types get named...