Le Tour 2018
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@scribe said in Le Tour 2018:
@chris-b I wouldn't be surprised if G beats Dumoulin in the TT; he has recent TT form over a v similar course.
Roglic is no TT mug either and could conceivably end up 2nd overall.
Roglic is certainly doing very well. Not quite the edge needed to win but very very good.
This will make things interesting at TLJ as their trial run at having different lead riders at different events looks sound. Now they can pick which course and which support team suits Bennet best and which suits Roglic and target properly.
My understanding, from a GB interview was that he only had a crack at the Giro because they thought at the time everyone else was targeting the TdF/Vuelta again. The Giro line up turned out to be one of the strongest yet.
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My theory on today is that the Sky train will control the front and any breakaway will only be from the odd also ran looking to gain a stage win. Hardly any sprinters left and Sagan is still uncertain to start.
The scenario could change if Sagan doesn't start as Kristoff has won this stage before and he could look for a repeat to secure the green jersey lead.
Latour looked completely shot after the climb otherwise I'd peg him for a breakaway crack that Sky would allow.
Astana may challenge Sky and try and position Fugslang up the road but if Sagan starts I would put an Ayrton on Roland having a breakaway crack. -
Peter Sagan: “I’m in pain but happy”
July 26 th 2018 - 19:09It could have been worse. I have pain everywhere, but still I am quite happy I can keep racing. My physical condition is a bit worse than it was, but I took advantage of it to live the race from a different perspective. It was a painful ride, but it still was better than it will be tomorrow. But I can’t complain since I am still on the race. The big goal is to finish the Tour de France, to survive the mountain stage and reach Paris. The time trial on Saturday will be fine. The big challenge is the mountain stage of tomorrow. I’m not afraid of anything. I’m going to suffer a little bit, that’s it.
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@mariner4life said in Le Tour 2018:
@crucial i love that bloke. Rock star.
Travesty he got kicked out last year. Bullshit decision.
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The shutdown from Sky has worked. Bardet looking like the only one with potential to decrease his deficit although the possibility exists for Dumoulin to try something in this last climb. 2 minutes is too much to make up in the TT, he needs to bring that down.
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2 mins 5 secs for Thomas going into tomorrow's time trial.
Wales' first Tour Champion is getting ever closer.
As one former-pupil of Whitchurch High School retires from the top flight (Warburton), another hopefully takes his seat at the table.
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@mikethesnow said in Le Tour 2018:
2 mins 5 secs for Thomas going into tomorrow's time trial.
Wales' first Tour Champion is getting ever closer.
As one former-pupil of Whitchurch High School retires from the top flight (Warburton), another hopefully takes his seat at the table.
I will give him credit as a worthy champ if it happens. Unlike the horrid Wiggins days he hasn’t spent the tour in the middle of the peloton with his team blocking the front. He has taken on everything thrown at him.
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Classic impartial reporting from the BBC
Thomas and Poulter
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@mikethesnow In future I think the ABs should play "Western Province" when we tour the NH, since we never get to play them in Jaapieland anymore.
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@mikethesnow To be fair Mike, that might be something to do with the particular sport. it was always GB's Bradley Wiggins not England's. Nor Kenya's Chris Froome come to that. However in golf Woosnam for instance is nearly always referred to as Wales' Ian Woosnam.
But yeah it still grates seeing the contrast like that.
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@catogrande said in Le Tour 2018:
@mikethesnow To be fair Mike, that might be something to do with the particular sport. it was always GB's Bradley Wiggins not England's. Nor Kenya's Chris Froome come to that. However in golf Woosnam for instance is nearly always referred to as Wales' Ian Woosnam.
But yeah it still grates seeing the contrast like that.
😁
Try telling Murray that 😉
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Thomas looking to do this in style
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And there it is
Chwarae teg Geraint Thomas
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@catogrande Bradley Wiggins wasn't born in Britain and is the son of an Australian.
He's British, but any "Englishness" would be based on moving to London as a kid. I can see why people refer to him as British but not as English. (I have a British passport and two English parents, but would never describe myself as "English", even though I am technically British.)
Geraint Thomas is the first TdF winner born in the British Isles, I was informed today by a TV commentator. I wonder how Stephen Roche feels about that!
(My wife and I always refer to Colin Montgemerie was "Scott Colin Montgomerie", so often did they call him that. It seems random really, who gets to be British and who doesn't.)
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@chester-draws said in Le Tour 2018:
@catogrande Bradley Wiggins wasn't born in Britain and is the son of an Australian.
Only the Father counts? Sexist. I am triggered.
He's British, but any "Englishness" would be based on moving to London as a kid. I can see why people refer to him as British but not as English. (I have a British passport and two English parents, but would never describe myself as "English", even though I am technically British.)
Britishness is a funny one to try and rationalise - as @MiketheSnow alluded, take Andy Murray. Scottish whiner when he loses. British hero when he wins. Wiggins though is pretty much a nailed on Englishman, notwithstanding his bread stealing Father. Froome on the other hand...
You have English parents and a British passport but do not identify as English? So do you identify as British or are you now assimilated into another country? (NZ I presume).
Geraint Thomas is the first TdF winner born in the British Isles, I was informed today by a TV commentator. I wonder how Stephen Roche feels about that!
Classic
(My wife and I always refer to Colin Montgemerie was "Scott Colin Montgomerie", so often did they call him that. It seems random really, who gets to be British and who doesn't.)
He would have been British if he'd won a major.
What is really random is how people change from being British to English/Welsh/Scots depending on mostly sport related stuff, though to be fair to our Celtic cousins that is more common in England, though not exclusive.