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A reasonable article about the situation
I think this comment after the article hits on a solution that deserves exploring.
No matter how long we had to think about the Irish question. there is no rational answer. There either has to be a policed border between North and South, or in the Irish Sea; neither of which are acceptable. Jo Johnson is right - we find ourselves between the proverbial rock and hard place. The only alternative seems to be going back, tail between legs and staying in. But isn't there another alternative, which would allow all to come out with dignity in tact, which is to say we will withdraw Article 50 and stay in, at the top table, but only if the conditions of our membership are significantly improved ... insert your own list of rule changes and vetoes here. This is surely a really good moment to renegotiate our membership on our terms. And then let's go back to the people and see which route they favour.
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Brexit in many ways is a catastrophic fuck up, but I share the view of others that the EU not the long term position of strength that it portrays itself to be. To be frank, rich countries working together under one umbrealla of terms, works fine. Poorer countries, probably too. But not wealthy and poor. Free movement of people between UK & Romania ... hardly going to be a two-way trade is it.
But I'm really bored of Boris Johnson. He's got this ideal that nobody in Europe will ever agree to, and seems to have just forgotten about the land border with Ireland. He's talking tough, but just coming across like a floppy haired buffoon.
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@majorrage said in Brexit:
Not for the first time, the daily mash has nailed it.
I liked the next story better:
THE finalised Brexit deal imposes full EU rules on Northern Ireland, changes its official language to Flemish, bans religion and renames it West Belgium.
The deal also creates a 190-mile tidal barrier down the length of the Irish Sea which UK citizens can only cross via a customs point on the Isle of Man but EU citizens can pass through wherever they like.
EU negotiator Michel Barnier said: “I don’t think anyone can have any problem with this.
“In Belfast, or New Bruges, we’ll eliminate sectarian divides with automated drones set to destroy all religious texts and recite the 800 pages of regulations against it to any attempted practitioners.
“An 800ft Manneken Pis in Ghent II, formerly Derry, will provide all drinking water for the region which is not anything the natives could be insulted by, and we’ll house the auxiliary European Parliament on the site of the bulldozed Stormont.
“The colours orange and green will be banned, as will the colours red, white and blue. But there’ll still be a Royal family. I’m sure you’ll really take to King Philippe.”
DUP leader Arlene Foster said: “On reflection, maybe we could accept a little compromise.”
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I'm honestly confused by wtf is going on.
The political shenanigans are the primary driver with the details being secondary.Where it appears to have landed (so far) is an interim situation so that May can declare that she triggered the exit as per the wishes of the people but has now negotiated a much longer period to actually make change.
On the face of it this is reasonable as they had no plan, no idea and no research/ analysis done when the vote came in.Looking back, the sensible and logical thing to do would have been to accept the result, tell the voters that this is going to require careful planning and put the EU on notice that once the UK had worked out what it actually wanted
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@crucial Looking back, the sensible and logical thing to do would be ensure the people on the leave side actually have some sort of actual plan as to how the exit would work without fucking over the country and causing years of angst. Oh yeah, and not let all those who created this clusterfuck just skip away and leave others to try and salvage something from the ruins.
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