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The only thing the MP's have less confidence in than May is Corbyn
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As I thought, and now Corbyn won’t talk until she takes no deal Brexit off the table.
That means no deal Brexit then, I assume, unless May bottles it and asks for more time.
Listening to the Beeb this morning most ppl interviewed only wanted a no deal Brexit done and dusted or a no Brexit.
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They can do a no deal Brexit if they want, just please delay it until I leave.
You think the trying to work out a deal has been an incompetent clusterfuck? Just wait until all the bits they haven’t even thought to cover off come out of the woodwork after a no deal.
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@Rembrandt said in Brexit:
Dear God, O'Brien is insufferable as an interviewer, just no interest in any answers?
It's bizzare, is he paid to be a complete piston wristed gibbon or is he just so EU possessed that he can't consider an alternative point of view?That's shocking. What a waste of everyone's time. When these gotcha interviews don't go the way they they planned, they can do nothing but resort to insults. Unprofessional and pathetic.
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@Rembrandt said in Brexit:
Dear God, O'Brien is insufferable as an interviewer, just no interest in any answers?
It's bizzare, is he paid to be a complete piston wristed gibbon or is he just so EU possessed that he can't consider an alternative point of view?@Rembrandt said in Brexit:
Dear God, O'Brien is insufferable as an interviewer, just no interest in any answers?
It's bizzare, is he paid to be a complete piston wristed gibbon or is he just so EU possessed that he can't consider an alternative point of view?What the....
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@Rembrandt said in Brexit:
Dear God, O'Brien is insufferable as an interviewer, just no interest in any answers?
It's bizzare, is he paid to be a complete piston wristed gibbon or is he just so EU possessed that he can't consider an alternative point of view?You can see why that's a phone interview. In real life he'd get thumped. Rude prick.
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Latest yougov polls make for interesting reading.
Remain / Leave - 56/44
Remain / No Deal - 59/41
Remain / Mays Deal - 65/35Poses an interesting point now about democracy. UK voted to leave in 2016, and leave it must. But in 2018, if opinion polls have changed, is it still democratic? Was an article in the Guardian the other day too, about how the demographic changes on a daily basis due to older people passing on and younger people joining the voting ranks. Using the averages from the vote, the UK would have naturally swung to Remain.
I really can't see any other result other than another referendum. If this happens, it's a massive watershed moment in British politics, British democracy and the country as a whole.
We will see.
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@MajorRage said in Brexit:
Latest yougov polls make for interesting reading.
Remain / Leave - 56/44
Remain / No Deal - 59/41
Remain / Mays Deal - 65/35Poses an interesting point now about democracy. UK voted to leave in 2016, and leave it must. But in 2018, if opinion polls have changed, is it still democratic? Was an article in the Guardian the other day too, about how the demographic changes on a daily basis due to older people passing on and younger people joining the voting ranks. Using the averages from the vote, the UK would have naturally swung to Remain.
I really can't see any other result other than another referendum. If this happens, it's a massive watershed moment in British politics, British democracy and the country as a whole.
We will see.
Wait.. what?
You are basing all that on polling?Cause polls can be trusted since?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
Latest yougov polls make for interesting reading.
Remain / Leave - 56/44
Remain / No Deal - 59/41
Remain / Mays Deal - 65/35Poses an interesting point now about democracy. UK voted to leave in 2016, and leave it must. But in 2018, if opinion polls have changed, is it still democratic? Was an article in the Guardian the other day too, about how the demographic changes on a daily basis due to older people passing on and younger people joining the voting ranks. Using the averages from the vote, the UK would have naturally swung to Remain.
I really can't see any other result other than another referendum. If this happens, it's a massive watershed moment in British politics, British democracy and the country as a whole.
We will see.
Wait.. what?
You are basing all that on polling?Cause polls can be trusted since?
Wait ... what?
You are saying that people shouldn't comment on polls?
I am not stating anything as fact. I am pointing out what yougov polls, which are widely listened to in both governement and media are stating.
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@MajorRage said in Brexit:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
Latest yougov polls make for interesting reading.
Remain / Leave - 56/44
Remain / No Deal - 59/41
Remain / Mays Deal - 65/35Poses an interesting point now about democracy. UK voted to leave in 2016, and leave it must. But in 2018, if opinion polls have changed, is it still democratic? Was an article in the Guardian the other day too, about how the demographic changes on a daily basis due to older people passing on and younger people joining the voting ranks. Using the averages from the vote, the UK would have naturally swung to Remain.
I really can't see any other result other than another referendum. If this happens, it's a massive watershed moment in British politics, British democracy and the country as a whole.
We will see.
Wait.. what?
You are basing all that on polling?Cause polls can be trusted since?
Wait ... what?
You are saying that people shouldn't comment on polls?
I am not stating anything as fact. I am pointing out what yougov polls, which are widely listened to in both governement and media are stating.
You said that if opinion polls have changed is it still democratic didnt you? Democracy does not hinge on opinion polls, especially ones that already got it wrong.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
Latest yougov polls make for interesting reading.
Remain / Leave - 56/44
Remain / No Deal - 59/41
Remain / Mays Deal - 65/35Poses an interesting point now about democracy. UK voted to leave in 2016, and leave it must. But in 2018, if opinion polls have changed, is it still democratic? Was an article in the Guardian the other day too, about how the demographic changes on a daily basis due to older people passing on and younger people joining the voting ranks. Using the averages from the vote, the UK would have naturally swung to Remain.
I really can't see any other result other than another referendum. If this happens, it's a massive watershed moment in British politics, British democracy and the country as a whole.
We will see.
Wait.. what?
You are basing all that on polling?Cause polls can be trusted since?
Wait ... what?
You are saying that people shouldn't comment on polls?
I am not stating anything as fact. I am pointing out what yougov polls, which are widely listened to in both governement and media are stating.
You said that if opinion polls have changed is it still democratic didnt you? Democracy does not hinge on opinion polls, especially ones that already got it wrong.
That's a parliamentary decision. I asked a question, as I'm interested in people's thoughts on the issue, hence posting. If you think that poll's are baseless, then thats fine. But do you think all polls should be? What if it had swung to 90/10? Are poll's still baseless then?
I can see both sides. First and foremost, democracy should be upheld. However this situation is huge, with far reaching consequences for a lot of people. There are a lot of people who are strongly strongly against leave, and have already faced some economic consequences because of it. They read these polls, and make no mistake these gaps are very wide in favour of the Remain side, you can't blame them for kicking up a stink can you?
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