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What about this<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/10/pravda-putin-threatens-to-release-satellite-evidence-of-911/">http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/10/pravda-putin-threatens-to-release-satellite-evidence-of-911/</a><br></p></blockquote>
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Winger, why did they bother blaming Bin Laden for 9/11 and then wait two years and concoct all that nonsense about wmds as a pretext for going into Iraq? Surely it would have far easier to blame Saddam for 9/11 in the first place?<br><br>
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<p>the wood is nowhere near as hard, therefore will never get to the same size.</p>
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If anyone used terrorist acts to further thier own ambition it's likely to be Putin anyway . The question of why the Chechins would start bombing after all their demands were met is a decent one and it's embarrassing to condemn a bombing at a session in parliament before it actually happened <br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://reprints.longform.org/putin-conspiracy-banned-story-anderson'>http://reprints.longform.org/putin-conspiracy-banned-story-anderson</a> -
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<p>Winger, why did they bother blaming Bin Laden for 9/11 and then wait two years and concoct all that nonsense about wmds as a pretext for going into Iraq? Surely it would have far easier to blame Saddam for 9/11 in the first place?<br><br><strong>Also that's dated February , why has nothing happened about this yet?</strong></p>
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<p>Putin's holding back just in case. To keep the US leadership in line and a bit on edge</p>
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<p>If anything happens to Putin it will be released(is this good enough)</p>
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<p><span style="color:#ff0000;">Just to be clear I just posted this to liven up this thread. I will do this only on this thread</span></p> -
<p>What interest me is how did building 7 just fell down. WTF. This doesn't make any sense. Why would one building just happen to fall down in sympathy with two others. And how did the BBC know about this before it happened?</p>
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<p>And what happened to the pentagon plane. And how did Bush know so quickly who was responsible?</p>
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<p>And while we are in the US what about the magic bullet.</p>
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<p>If anyone used terrorist acts to further thier own ambition it's likely to be Putin anyway . The question of why the Chechins would start bombing after all their demands were met is a decent one and it's embarrassing to condemn a bombing at a session in parliament before it actually happened<br><br><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://reprints.longform.org/putin-conspiracy-banned-story-anderson'>http://reprints.longform.org/putin-conspiracy-banned-story-anderson</a></p>
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<p>Even the date is significant</p>
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<p><span style="color:#ff0000;">September</span> 4, 1<span style="color:#ff0000;">999, </span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">That's all the proof you need</span></p> -
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An example of a plausible doubt based on evidence being "discredited" by a nutcase made-up favourite<br><br>
You do this a lot jegga.</p></blockquote><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Winger" data-cid="528603" data-time="1444983954"><p>
An example of a plausible doubt based on evidence being "discredited" by a nutcase made-up favourite<br><br>
You do this a lot jegga.</p></blockquote>
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<p>When I say you are all over the place jegga. You can't even keep vaccine stuff to the right thread.</p>
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<p>Please try to do this</p>
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<p>No long vaccine stuff or AGW on these threads. There are other threads for this. This surely can be keep as a light hearted thread to discuss nutty conspiracy theories</p> -
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<p>It didn't collapse out of sympathy it was on fire and structurally compromised . The fire fighters were rather busy that day and didn't put out the fire . The BBC knew before it happened ? Really?</p>
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<p>But fires hardly ever bring down buildings. Especially so quickly. Some even claim the heat of the twin tower buildings would not be enough to melt steel</p>
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<p>But put this to one side. How did building 7 catch fire esp on this day. And then why did it fall down so quickly.</p> -
Chem trails are by far my favourite form of lunacy
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<p>The BBC knew before it happened ? Really?</p>
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<p>It's a certified classic. BBC reporter announces the collapse of WTC 7 while the building is on camera still standing over announcer's shoulder. There could be a number of good explanations for this, but... still waiting.</p>
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<p>The owner of the building Larry Silverstein is also on camera telling an interviewer he told NYFD to "pull" the building. Suspicious stuff...!!! Steel framed skyscrapers around the world have been torched like "Towering Infernos" many times and will burn for days, but to date only three of them collapsed from fire, all three collapsed in the same plaza, on the same day, in the same "free-fall" with dickall resistance, and only one of them was not hit by a plane.</p>
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<p>Statistically impossible, or so the Architects and Engineers and Fire Departments For Truth say in their explanations. Then again, who/what are these guys qualifications & credentials? </p>
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<p>Then again-then again, until the president and Congress un-redacts the classified 28 Pages of the official 9/11 Report, all of us who aren't members of the Royal House of Saud might want to read them before drawing more conclusions.</p>
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<p>How did building 7 catch fire esp on this day. And then why did it fall down so quickly.</p>
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<p>Silverstein's explanation:</p>
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<p>1) Fire started by debris.</p>
<p>2) In consultation with Fire Department, he agreed they should "pull it" (demolish, collapse building). </p>
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<p>Silverstein paid $14 million dollars of his own money to purchase WTC complex only 2 months prior to 9/11 and then cashed-in nearly $4-billion in insurance when the buildings collapsed. (He was disappointed, he wanted more.)</p>
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<p>And of course, as most property owners and architects and engineers recommend, he quickly re-furbished his new properties by installing into his skyscrapers thermite and pre-fabricated shake-charges so that if what Condaleeza Rice claimed was <em>unimaginable</em> actually happened and planes flew into buildings hundreds of yards away, he could immediately "pull" the nearby building that hadn't been hit for faster plaza re-development. </p>
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<p>It's a certified classic. BBC reporter announces the collapse of WTC 7 while the building is on camera over announcer's shoulder. There could be a number of good explanations for this, but... still waiting. The owner of the building Larry Silverstein is also on camera telling an interviewer he told NYFD to "pull" the building. Suspicious stuff...!!!</p>
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<p>The simplest answer is almost always the right one, experts were saying that building was almost certain to drop, with 24/7 news channels the key is to report things exactly when they happen, so every reporter there would have been briefed on that building & what would happen when it went etc. And from there its a hair trigger to be "first!!". Add to that things were a wee bit chaotic.</p>
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<p>Its no different to the BBC announcing that the Queen had died. MSBNC tweeted that Obama had been killed. Before then correcting it to Osama... Fox News announced it (Obama shot). No one gave a shit because there wasn't anything after. </p>
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<p>The process is literally "we have 10 prepared stories that we cannot miss (Obama shot, Queen dead, Pope dead, Russia invades Estonia, Kim Kardashian haircut etc) and the news agencies are on a hair trigger for any of those.</p>
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<p>You can go back all the way to "Dewey Defeats Trueman" probably the most famous presidental news headline. Or the way all the US news networks called the 2000 election.</p>
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<p>Sometimes the press just feck up -</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/new-zealand-herald-apologises-using-photo-jackass-star-ryan-dunn-story-about-killed-israeli-1458718'>http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/new-zealand-herald-apologises-using-photo-jackass-star-ryan-dunn-story-about-killed-israeli-1458718</a></p> -
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<p>Silverstein's explanation:</p>
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<p>1) Fire started by debris.</p>
<p>2) In consultation with Fire Department, he agreed they should "pull it" (demolish, collapse building). </p>
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<p>Silverstein paid $14 million dollars of his own money to purchase WTC complex only 2 months prior to 9/11 and then cashed-in nearly $4-billion in insurance when the buildings collapsed. (He was disappointed, he wanted more.)</p>
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<p>And of course, as most property owners and architects and engineers recommend, he quickly re-furbished his new properties by installing into his skyscrapers thermite and pre-fabricated shake-charges so that if what Condaleeza Rice claimed was <em>unimaginable</em> actually happened and planes flew into buildings hundreds of yards away, he could immediately "pull" the nearby building that hadn't been hit for faster plaza re-development. </p>
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<p>So the story goes...</p>
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<p>OK that seems plausible :mocking:</p> -
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<p>Its no different to the BBC announcing that the Queen had died. MSBNC tweeted that Obama had been killed. Before then correcting it to Osama... Fox News announced it (Obama shot). No one gave a shit because there wasn't anything after.</p>
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<p>True, big news agencies have Obituary Departments where they construct long-form pieces for events they know like death & taxes will transpire, guaranteed, 100%. Those stories are prepared in advanced and retained on file.</p>
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<p>I suspect "WTC #7 will collapse under it's own weight from some falling debris" is not one of those prepared stories. So maybe it's a <span style="font-size:10px;">teeny</span>-bit different.</p>
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<p>Then again, I just watched the 7th-inning of the Jays-Rangers elimination Game 5 only two days ago, so nothing would surprise me any more.</p> -
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<p>True, big news agencies have Obituary Departments where they construct long-form pieces for events they know like death & taxes will transpire, guaranteed, 100%. Those stories are prepared in advanced and retained on file.</p>
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<p>I suspect "WTC #7 will collapse under it's own weight from some falling debris" is not one of those prepared stories. So maybe it's a <span style="font-size:10px;">teeny</span>-bit different.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#ff0000;">Then again, I just watched the 7th-inning of the Jays-Rangers elimination Game 5 only two days ago, so nothing would surprise me any more.</span></p>
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<p>There you go. These things do happen. Like bullets that kill very important people do not travel in straight lines. Or men in caves ...</p> -
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<div><br><p>I suspect "WTC #7 will collapse under it's own weight from some falling debris" is not one of those prepared stories. So maybe it's a <span style="font-size:10px;">teeny</span>-bit different.</p>
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<p>No, its not</p>
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<p>It was flagged as coming down for several hours, so all the news prep there was "what is going to happen now? how do we prepare? What is the next story here?"</p>
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<p>and all the experts said "well that one is VERY likely to come down any minute" so they were preping for that.</p>
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<p>Same deal with "the queen has died", she had gone into hospital for a checkup, so the second she went in they prep'd for her to be dead. </p>
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