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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat Yeah she does. She is actually that bad.
Doesn't she have a degree in communications? All style, little substance
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Not defending Cindy for a second but
Morrison, Turnbull, Abbott, Rudd, Gillard - not really the lucky country eh?Mind you Adern \ Bridges ain't all that either.
NZ Labour Leaders since Aunty Helen; Goff, Shearer, Silent T, Little, Cindy isn't eactly Savage/Fraser/Nash either
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
TBF if you look at the successive line of fucknuckles Oz have had for PM's the Blessed St Cindy doesn't look too bad
Hmm , it’s funny how quickly we forget things once they drop out of the news cycle
Shit running down the walls of Middlemore
Czech drug dealers
Abandoning health targets because the couldn’t achieve them
Abandoning kiwibuild targets because they couldn’t reach them
Using taxpayer funds to make a video for her future in job
Numerous counts of rape and sexual assault by party members
Fucking over Taranaki and actually increasing our greenhouse gases when we have to import more
Fucking over the mining industry in Coromandel
Not being able to fire Meka the mussThat’s off the top of my head and only in 2 years ffs . The problem is until Ardern took over labour were a spent force and broke so couldn't attract good people and settled for dross as staff and MPs . Even when she did take over they still only got 35% , she got a bump in March 15 but there’s no escaping the lack of competence throughout her administration and that Ardern is out of her depth .
Winston’s absence is interesting, three weeks for an old rugby injury.......
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@Mokey said in NZ Politics:
@canefan suspended pending full investigation at the very least, the moment all the allegations came to light. Fark this reeks.
Howarth told the victim he was too important to the party to fire .
Let that sink in . Ok so he’s a rapist but if we sack him we might not get re-elected next year .
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Not defending Cindy for a second but
Morrison, Turnbull, Abbott, Rudd, Gillard - not really the lucky country eh?Mind you Adern \ Bridges ain't all that either.
NZ Labour Leaders since Aunty Helen; Goff, Shearer, Silent T, Little, Cindy isn't eactly Savage/Fraser/Nash either
I think Ardern is worse than all if them. And most of them were terrible
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@Toddy said in NZ Politics:
Isn't he an alleged rapist/sex offender. Or are we assuming guilty unless proven innocent now.
Couldn't agree more. Innocent until proven guilty still applies to those you don't like. It is the lies from Ardern and her mates that irk me.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NZ Politics:
@Toddy said in NZ Politics:
Isn't he an alleged rapist/sex offender. Or are we assuming guilty unless proven innocent now.
Couldn't agree more. Innocent until proven guilty still applies to those you don't like. It is the lies from Ardern and her mates that irk me.
The victims should be listened to, not knee jerk believed.12 alleged victims , I agree with you but we are getting into Bill Cosby territory here.
However, Newstalk ZB political reporter Barry Soper said the allegations involved not only sexual assault but rape, offers to pay for sex and that there were 12 alleged complainants.
"What they're saying is, the party is telling them not to comment. They say people incredibly high up are on the side of the accused in the Beehive."
Soper said those allegedly affected were "frightened" of talking to the media as they claimed they would have their support withdrawn if they spoke out.
"They talked about not just sexual assault but rape, they said that this person worked in the Beehive for two years, he was offering promotions for sex. They said there was a huge power imbalance, they said the person was well known to Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson.
"They said one victim was hospitalised, two were still working at Parliament, six others were junior party members and there were 12 victims in all."
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NZ Politics:
@Toddy said in NZ Politics:
Isn't he an alleged rapist/sex offender. Or are we assuming guilty unless proven innocent now.
Couldn't agree more. Innocent until proven guilty still applies to those you don't like. It is the lies from Ardern and her mates that irk me.
The victims should be listened to, not knee jerk believed.12 alleged victims , I agree with you but we are getting into Bill Cosby territory here.
However, Newstalk ZB political reporter Barry Soper said the allegations involved not only sexual assault but rape, offers to pay for sex and that there were 12 alleged complainants.
"What they're saying is, the party is telling them not to comment. They say people incredibly high up are on the side of the accused in the Beehive."
Soper said those allegedly affected were "frightened" of talking to the media as they claimed they would have their support withdrawn if they spoke out.
"They talked about not just sexual assault but rape, they said that this person worked in the Beehive for two years, he was offering promotions for sex. They said there was a huge power imbalance, they said the person was well known to Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson.
"They said one victim was hospitalised, two were still working at Parliament, six others were junior party members and there were 12 victims in all."
Wow, hope it all comes out.
Lets all now spare a moment for the poor editors at Stuff.co.nz who are in a tough position trying to bury a story that is just so juicy that if they don't put it up even their most head-in-the-sand readers would start to doubt their journalistic integrity.
You'd get whiplash looking for the scandal headline today, back to the top right now...but for how long?
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