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The guy has been named on twitter.
He worked alongside Ardern everyday , he was considered invaluable to the party as part of their election campaigns and media management . It looks like they hired him after the first complaint, if that’s proven - that they knew he was a predator but still hired him anyway that’s incredibly appalling.
#metoo must become #wetoo unless of course you’re one of the best in the country at your job and it took us years to convince you to come back and work for us .
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brilliant, a must read
http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/the-moment-i-found-out-that-you-found-out-i-acted-swiftly/
Favourite quote,
"But it was only on Monday that I learned that you had learned that Paula Bennett had learned that others had learned, and the moment I heard that others had heard, and that Grant had heard, and that Mike had heard and Rob had heard, then I acted swiftly to wait for Nigel to resign."
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Two things I've heard in last 12 hours.
RNZ had a very long very detailed report on the details of the allegations. Ironically one of the most knowledgeable interviewees who had seen all the documents it appears at the time was a Stuff journalist.
Then this morning they had a piece with a Young Labour volunteer who effectively said he felt betrayed and found it hard to believe Cindy didn't know. Labour are in deep doggy doo if the troops are turning. There's a longer interview with the Young Labour guy to come later in the morning
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How does this story tie in with the alleged sexual predator that was discussed by The Speaker a few months ago? The implication then was it was a National employee.
And he was virtually named and convicted in the media.
Are these separate cases or was he unfairly accused in place of this creep?
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
How does this story tie in with the alleged sexual predator that was discussed by The Speaker a few months ago? The implication then was it was a National employee.
And he was virtually named and convicted in the media.
Are these separate cases or was he unfairly accused in place of this creep?
Different people . This guy is one of the inner circle .
He was hired after and in spite of the first sexual assault allegation against him too.
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@taniwharugby she should be practicing saying “ chicken salt or plain?”
82% of people on a news hub poll don’t believe her
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I think she is playing fast and not so clever about exactly what details were shared with her, so she can stick to her 'timeline'.
If she didn't know, why not? If she did, why no action? I can get that party leadership might have wanted to keep her insulated while they 'dealt with it', but this is a grim situation that's looking worse by the day. -
@Paekakboyz the problem with theory party leaders wanting to give her deniability on the allegations, is that she claims she asked specific questions about the nature of the allegations, meaning there are some blatant lies from someone involved.
More so that given the 'rumours' that have been about for weeks now, if she asked specific questions, they responded with lies, but 'rumours' continued, surely she should have pushed harder?
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@taniwharugby yeah it doesn't really stand up when you start to pick apart the narrative aye. That latest Civilian article hit the nail on the head. A shambles was happening in the back room and not much better in the front of the house.
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Considering she was asked about it at the start of August and sexual nature of the allegations was mentioned it’ll be interesting to see how long she can try and pretend she didn’t know .
If she does get backed into a corner and is forced to admit it she is well and truly fucked.
Pretty much every media outlet in the country has turned on her and the accused name is all over twitter.
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
Considering she was asked about it at the start of August and sexual nature of the allegations was mentioned it’ll be interesting to see how long she can try and pretend she didn’t know .
If she does get backed into a corner and is forced to admit it she is well and truly fucked.
Pretty much every media outlet in the country has turned on her and the accused name is all over twitter.
And only really screwed as the moral high ground was seized with 'you don't have to lie to be in politics'. Don't do that, and don't say one thing and do another with #metoo and there are paths out of this mess. Right now it looks ugly for the short term, and probably the medium and long term too.
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
Considering she was asked about it at the start of August and sexual nature of the allegations was mentioned it’ll be interesting to see how long she can try and pretend she didn’t know .
If she does get backed into a corner and is forced to admit it she is well and truly fucked.
Pretty much every media outlet in the country has turned on her and the accused name is all over twitter.
And only really screwed as the moral high ground was seized with 'you don't have to lie to be in politics'. Don't do that, and don't say one thing and do another with #metoo and there are paths out of this mess. Right now it looks ugly for the short term, and probably the medium and long term too.
She could have learned a lot from John Key. Don't categorically state facts on record. This is starting to take on a Turei/Greens type feel. The government won't collapse, but they will take a hit for this. The only saving grace for them is this is not election year, so release a few puff pieces about the first child later and try to distract the public
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@nzzp just so I'm clear, this is the woman fawning all over the world telling people how to live right? NZ should be a safe space. Controversial speakers are not allowed. Ban people from the internet. Be nice and inclusive to everyone.
Just checking...
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@Siam said in NZ Politics:
@nzzp just so I'm clear, this is the woman fawning all over the world telling people how to live right? NZ should be a safe space. Controversial speakers are not allowed. Ban people from the internet. Be nice and inclusive to everyone.
Just checking...
You just didn’t understand her when she said metoo should become wetoo
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@Siam said in NZ Politics:
just so I'm clear, this is the woman fawning all over the world telling people how to live right? NZ should be a safe space. Controversial speakers are not allowed. Ban people from the internet. Be nice and inclusive to everyone.
Just checking...Too many words:
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@Siam said in NZ Politics:
@nzzp just so I'm clear, this is the woman fawning all over the world telling people how to live right? NZ should be a safe space. Controversial speakers are not allowed. Ban people from the internet. Be nice and inclusive to everyone.
Just checking...
#doasIsaynotdoasIdo
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@Rembrandt said in NZ Politics:
Will be very interesting to see if Jacinda does survive this. Anyone else in the party with at least some popularity that can take the reigns?
Or anybody in the party that thinks they are popular who is happy to knife Jacinda? Probably more the key point.
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