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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
only cares about her international profile
which she has managed remarkably well...I am sure you have friends/family in other parts of the world too, for some reason most I know seem to think she is great or is portrayed that way in thier media; all smoke and mirrors
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
only cares about her international profile
which she has managed remarkably well...I am sure you have friends/family in other parts of the world too, for some reason most I know seem to think she is great or is portrayed that way in thier media; all smoke and mirrors
Yep, have family in the US that think she’s great. When I press for why it’s like pushing against spiderwebs, no substance
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
only cares about her international profile
which she has managed remarkably well...I am sure you have friends/family in other parts of the world too, for some reason most I know seem to think she is great or is portrayed that way in thier media; all smoke and mirrors
Yep and my parents were just in Canada and were subjected to a couple of the locals thrashwanking about Ardern . When they asked why they felt that way about her it boiled down to one speech and wearing a hijab. Thats effectively all they knew about her, nothing about the sexual assaults and cover ups, the continual policy failures.snd complete lack of substance to her administration. Ffs , no wonder they ended up with a male version of Ardern leading their country.
I’m hoping next year she pushes it too far basing her re-election campaign around her wedding by doing stuff like inviting cuck celebrities such as Colbert and the public see through the cynicism of it and really turn on her come Election Day .
Winston’s humiliation in court is enjoyable to watch too, I see the judge is making him pay for part of Tolley and Bennett’s legal costs.
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Listening to Yasmine Mohammad on a recent Sam Harris podcast, and Adern came up in conversation.
Yasmine is an apostate, ( escaped her Al Quada husband), and highlighted how repugnant it was for Adern to promote attire that plainly and effectively renders the wearer to being completely beneath society and devoid of ANY free will.Yasmine mentioned it does untold harm to burkha'ed women when western women glorify this insane subjugation of innocent women.
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@Siam i heard her on the Jamie Kilstein podcast . She said she was appalled that western women think it’s a gesture of solidarity when women in Iran get beatings for refusing to wear one and worse in other places. Her rant about Hijab barbie was world class .
Obviously she’s not trying to get a UN job in New York though .
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
Based on this I expect Ardern to visit a pad wearing a patch
Reminds me of that stuff article a whiles back which was equating the removal of guns as part of Jacinda's de-arming of the country as racism when the gangs said they wouldn't hand over their guns.
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@Rembrandt said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
Based on this I expect Ardern to visit a pad wearing a patch
Reminds me of that stuff article a whiles back which was equating the removal of guns as part of Jacinda's de-arming of the country as racism when the gangs said they wouldn't hand over their guns.
Hone Harawira said the same thing in his usual ingnorant fuckwitted way . Many thanks to Kimdotcom for removing this stain from parliament
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Weep harder lads, your tears are delicious. I urge you to keep screaming into the void so that Jacinta hears you!
More to the point, the PM is New Zealand's chief international cheerleader, and I don't begrudge any of them travelling overseas or hosting anyone with the profile to increase tourism and other benefits. Sir John Key went on Letterman and offered him the same deal (come to NZ and he'd pick him up from the airport), and it's a shame it didn't happen.
It's also a lot cheaper than the America's Cup or other major sporting events, but they're all part of the same overall strategy, to increase the visibility of New Zealand overseas and get more tourists, trade deals, better access to markets and other economic development options.
The recent improvements to the NZ - China FTA are welcome, the RCEP agreement is a good effort, and Labour and National continue to build on each other's good work.
Agree that Kiwibuild has gone poorly - should have been given to Housing NZ to actually build the houses since that's something they're good at (currently well ahead of their government expectations, unlike Kiwibuild). Also has awful settings since it does nothing for the working poor unless they get a large inheritance or similar to afford the massive deposits required.
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@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Weep harder lads, your tears are delicious. I urge you to keep screaming into the void so that Jacinta hears you!
More to the point, the PM is New Zealand's chief international cheerleader, and I don't begrudge any of them travelling overseas or hosting anyone with the profile to increase tourism and other benefits. Sir John Key went on Letterman and offered him the same deal (come to NZ and he'd pick him up from the airport), and it's a shame it didn't happen.
It's also a lot cheaper than the America's Cup or other major sporting events, but they're all part of the same overall strategy, to increase the visibility of New Zealand overseas and get more tourists, trade deals, better access to markets and other economic development options.
The recent improvements to the NZ - China FTA are welcome, the RCEP agreement is a good effort, and Labour and National continue to build on each other's good work.
Agree that Kiwibuild has gone poorly - should have been given to Housing NZ to actually build the houses since that's something they're good at (currently well ahead of their government expectations, unlike Kiwibuild). Also has awful settings since it does nothing for the working poor unless they get a large inheritance or similar to afford the massive deposits required.
Started badly by misspelling The Jassiahs name , faded terribly in the middle and the less said about the end the better.
Once again the fact you keep refusing actually address almost all the points her detractors made about her and her parties policy failures says volumes about her.
I’d imagine labour would go into an absolute meltdown if it turned out a friend and colleague of Nationals finance minister was sexually assaulting staff and the party covered it up .
I guess after Darren Hughes and swissballgate we shouldn’t be surprised to find out labour turns a blind eye to this kind of stuff though .
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Weep harder lads, your tears are delicious. I urge you to keep screaming into the void so that Jacinta hears you!
More to the point, the PM is New Zealand's chief international cheerleader, and I don't begrudge any of them travelling overseas or hosting anyone with the profile to increase tourism and other benefits. Sir John Key went on Letterman and offered him the same deal (come to NZ and he'd pick him up from the airport), and it's a shame it didn't happen.
It's also a lot cheaper than the America's Cup or other major sporting events, but they're all part of the same overall strategy, to increase the visibility of New Zealand overseas and get more tourists, trade deals, better access to markets and other economic development options.
The recent improvements to the NZ - China FTA are welcome, the RCEP agreement is a good effort, and Labour and National continue to build on each other's good work.
Agree that Kiwibuild has gone poorly - should have been given to Housing NZ to actually build the houses since that's something they're good at (currently well ahead of their government expectations, unlike Kiwibuild). Also has awful settings since it does nothing for the working poor unless they get a large inheritance or similar to afford the massive deposits required.
Started badly by misspelling The Jassiahs name , faded badly in the middle and the less said about the end the better.
Once again the fact you keep refusing actually address almost all the points her detractors made about her and her parties policy failures says volumes about her.
It's my birthday and I'm posting on my phone (autocorrect is a pain), so the only volumes spoken are that I bothered at all. Yes, I am a tragic...
And, if I agree that the policy failures are failures, what's to address here as a supporter? I'd rather spend my time as a member actually attempting to address them with the party.
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@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Weep harder lads, your tears are delicious. I urge you to keep screaming into the void so that Jacinta hears you!
Fair call actually. The only way she might hear is when she loses an election.
I dont lose much sleep over her to be honest, and actually think she is probably quite a good person, I just think she is professionally incompetent. Same reason I ignore so much of politics, all the gotcha stuff over trivial shite is pathetic. I don't like the govt because the actual policies are shit, to much talk not enough action and just seem like wasters. -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Weep harder lads, your tears are delicious. I urge you to keep screaming into the void so that Jacinta hears you!
Fair call actually. The only way she might hear is when she loses an election.
I dont lose much sleep over her to be honest, and actually think she is probably quite a good person, I just think she is professionally incompetent. Same reason I ignore so much of politics, all the gotcha stuff over trivial shite is pathetic. I don't like the govt because the actual policies are shit, to much talk not enough action and just seem like wasters.Agree with most of that . I thought at first she might be a good person out of her depth . My initial thought was she should have sat this one out , forced Winston on national , learned more about being a leader and returned with a decent enough majority to actually be an effective administration.
After seeing the way she behaved after the youth camp and the young Labour Party sexual assaults I think she’s just a venal shell spitting sound bites approved by her comms team like so many career politicians that are inflicting themselves on the west . It’s no surprise people are rejecting them and outsiders like Trump , sanders and Corbyn are popular.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback I have a friend who knows her and this fits his description. Genuinely nice person, he had concerns about her competence to do the job. The person who is most to blame is Winston, for getting them in there in the first place. I'm sure his increasingly senile constituency will forgive and forget by the time the election rolls around
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Bank records, details of political donations transferred to the account and what the money was spent on have been uncovered in a Stuff investigation.
How were they 'uncovered'? Assume someone gave the info, or they hacked the information??
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@taniwharugby probably via an OIA?? I recall that NZ First's party president stepped down saying there wasn't sufficient transparency of activity for him to sign off on their financial statement for 2019 (unsure about earlier stuff). That kind of starts the smoke billowing from NZ First HQ!
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
Labour primed for an election year lolly scramble on the back of solid financial work from the previous government
“I’ve taken too much of your money and now I’m only going to give it back to people who will vote for me to take more of it”
When you read how they came up with that figure it’s a tad dubious
TBF I didn’t look. I just assumed he was bullshitting. What have they revalued this time?
Mikeys trainset was revalued and added $2.8 billion to the books . Seems legit
“KiwiRail, a state-owned enterprise, now has its assets valued based as a public benefit entity, taking into account the benefits that it provides at a community level, rather than a purely profit-oriented entity.
A valuation for the rail freight network that only reflected its cash-generating potential was no longer appropriate," the Treasury said in its Financial Statements.“
So basically because it’s not financially viable it’s real value is to the community or something, it’s the vibe of the thing.
I'm surprised they went for only $2.8 billion. Surely someone in the meeting suggested more.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
Bank records, details of political donations transferred to the account and what the money was spent on have been uncovered in a Stuff investigation.
How were they 'uncovered'? Assume someone gave the info, or they hacked the information??
There’s been leaks going on for a few months , the president resigned because he didn’t want to sign off on their years financials . Also when Winston was in hospital getting an old rugby injury seen too/having half a lung removed there was rumours of people trying to position themselves for promotion if he didn’t come back .
The names of the donors are known apparently but stuff decided not to reveal them . One of the people running the trust also runs a lobbying firm so you can probably guess a couple of them by the policies NZ first has been pushing . Cameras for mpi to monitor catches being taken off fishing boats for example .
Arderns best option might be to call an early election while her party is still polling well instead of a year of leaks and infighting in NZ first going into an election campaign .
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