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It's a good way to play into China's hands; create an ongoing state of lawlessness to ensure they send in troops. You have to wonder at the intellect of some people.
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@antipodean what alternatives do they have? peaceful protest? wasn't that met with force as well?
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@Paekakboyz said in Hong Kong:
@antipodean what alternatives do they have? peaceful protest? wasn't that met with force as well?
Are they allowed to protest in China? If not, then stay within the confines of the law and you won't be met with a violent govt reaction.
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@Paekakboyz said in Hong Kong:
@antipodean what alternatives do they have? peaceful protest? wasn't that met with force as well?
The extradition bill has been withdrawn. Objective met. Stop poking the bear.
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@antipodean said in Hong Kong:
@Paekakboyz said in Hong Kong:
@antipodean what alternatives do they have? peaceful protest? wasn't that met with force as well?
The extradition bill has been withdrawn. Objective met. Stop poking the bear.
Protestors have crossed a few lines now and are starting to lose a fair bit of support.
I'm not sticking up for the police or anything, as undoubtedly alot of their responses / behaviour has been completely unacceptable. However, all I see is very very one sided. As an example, a protestor has shot a police officer with an arrow, and its' barely reported on.
Petrol bombs, bow and arrows etc etc. Thats just nuts.
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@antipodean said in Hong Kong:
@Paekakboyz said in Hong Kong:
@antipodean what alternatives do they have? peaceful protest? wasn't that met with force as well?
The extradition bill has been withdrawn. Objective met. Stop poking the bear.
That was the original aim. However, the view is that the police response was very "China", in that they could do what they want and face zero repurcussions. The rule / law of state makes them untouchable.
Hence, the aim has now gotten much wider.
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@antipodean said in Hong Kong:
It's a good way to play into China's hands; create an ongoing state of lawlessness to ensure they send in troops.
Have heard a conspiracy theory from some HK folk that some of the "protesters" are mainland plants and or triads sent in to cause civil unrest - hence playing in to China's hands.
Not out of the realms of possibility. Some of this is well out of character for HK people.
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@antipodean said in Hong Kong:
It's a good way to play into China's hands; create an ongoing state of lawlessness to ensure they send in troops.
Have heard a conspiracy theory from some HK folk that some of the "protesters" are mainland plants and or triads sent in to cause civil unrest - hence playing in to China's hands.
Not out of the realms of possibility. Some of this is well out of character for HK people.
Oldest trick in the Asia book that one. Exactly that happened in the Bangkok riots between red and yellow shirts. Protesters running away getting shot face on.
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@MajorRage said in Hong Kong:
Protestors have crossed a few lines now and are starting to lose a fair bit of support.
What's your thoughts on the election? Surprised? Or is the support for the pro democracy parties distinct from the support for the protesters?
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@MajorRage said in Hong Kong:
Protestors have crossed a few lines now and are starting to lose a fair bit of support.
What's your thoughts on the election? Surprised? Or is the support for the pro democracy parties distinct from the support for the protesters?
Directly, pointless. There are already a few articles floating around about how the actual result of the votes is more 60/40.
Indirectly, at least a calming period ahead. Small victories for protesters which don't mean anything in the big scheme of things should help with peace. Carrie Lam should use this time to work out the path forwards. Although I do fear that her well known lack of any actual power will come to the front as Beijing looks to continue to "crack down".
If protesters can cease violence for a while (Police are taking all the criticism, and they may be the main instigators, but protest action has crossed many a line), then a resolution may appear forthcoming.