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@Victor-Meldrew got a mate who is an accredited floor layer. They're flat out to the point where he took his son on as an apprentice. The money is amazing but the physical work is tough.
In Australia the lack of vocational training is becoming an issue
Ditto in the UK. Everything is via University.
My daughter is a Uni-educated nurse and she really struggled with the mental pressure of dealing with patients and the less-glamorous side when she qualified. Big contrast to my sister who spent the 1st year of her nursing training washing patients and emptying bed-pans - nothing fazed her after that and ensured she'd made the right career choice.
Less opportunity for kids and way more pressure these days in many ways.
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@Victor-Meldrew got a mate who is an accredited floor layer. They're flat out to the point where he took his son on as an apprentice. The money is amazing but the physical work is tough.
In Australia the lack of vocational training is becoming an issue
A real problem is people tend to think of it in binary terms. A mate of mine started life as an electrician, put himself through uni to become an electrical engineer and is now doing very well thank you very much for a major mining company.
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Something else which is funny is I find middle aged woman attractive now when I never used too. Mind you I haven't stopped looking at young woman too.
I'm with you there. There is a lot to find sexy about an older woman once you realise you're married to one
However, on the younger crowd: a 40yo mate of mine found himself in a strip club talking to a stripper who just got off shift. Now of course, the caveat is she's there to keep you at arm's length and try to get you to spend, but once they got a couple of drinks in, and just started talking about life in general, he really appreciated her perspective on life.
Not burdened with kids and 20 years together, he found it very refreshing to speak to a woman who wasn't a work colleague or part of the circle of friends.
No midlife crisis just yet.
.... BTW, the youngest (who hijacked my Fern account a while back) sits beside me and when she saw me browsing the Fern the other week announced to them all that JC was back on his incel group. She thinks @Catogrande is funny, so there’s no helping her.
Any chance of a pic and following that an address if deemed appropriate?
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All jokes aside the biggest thing I note about me with getting older is boozing.
My desire just drops and drops. I still love a beer, but a pint or two is generally enough for me these days. I just can’t be bothered with the shit sleep, hangover, hangxiety and The General lousy feelings and demeanor the next day.
A mate got me going on Heineken double zeros and I’m turning for them in a big way. They really do allow you to have a session with your buddies, in a way that water, coke and line Soda don’t.
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@Catogrande said in Aging:
Something else which is funny is I find middle aged woman attractive now when I never used too. Mind you I haven't stopped looking at young woman too.
I'm with you there. There is a lot to find sexy about an older woman once you realise you're married to one
However, on the younger crowd: a 40yo mate of mine found himself in a strip club talking to a stripper who just got off shift. Now of course, the caveat is she's there to keep you at arm's length and try to get you to spend, but once they got a couple of drinks in, and just started talking about life in general, he really appreciated her perspective on life.
Not burdened with kids and 20 years together, he found it very refreshing to speak to a woman who wasn't a work colleague or part of the circle of friends.
No midlife crisis just yet.
.... BTW, the youngest (who hijacked my Fern account a while back) sits beside me and when she saw me browsing the Fern the other week announced to them all that JC was back on his incel group. She thinks @Catogrande is funny, so there’s no helping her.
Any chance of a pic and following that an address if deemed appropriate?
I’m pretty sure there are laws against that or something. She comes from Rotorua and lives in Hastings so she
probablydefinitely would though, probably for a point of meth or whatever it is that passes for a good time amongst the kids these days. And she better get the fuck off my lawn. -
@MajorRage said in Aging:
Heineken double zeros
they must be different to the Heineken low alcohol or zero alcohol shite we get here, which is some of the worst 'beer' I have tasted.
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@MajorRage said in Aging:
I just can’t be bothered with the shit sleep, hangover, hangxiety and The General lousy feelings and demeanor the next day.
Neither can I, so I decided to invest in decent wines and cut back on the daily drinking of supermarket cheapies.
The growing collection of decent wines and continuing production of cheapo emptiies indicates it didn't quite work out the way it as supposed to...
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@taniwharugby said in Aging:
@MajorRage said in Aging:
Heineken double zeros
they must be different to the Heineken low alcohol or zero alcohol shite we get here, which is some of the worst 'beer' I have tasted.
Hold tight though. One of the biggest development and growth areas in beer/spirits is low/no alcohol with decent taste. It will take a while to filter through, especially in NZ where low alcohol anything is a hard sell. Won't take much for a groundswell via social media though.
In the meantime there are some already out there, you just have to track them down.
Seedlip 'Gin' has all the taste of normal gin without the kick and is great to alternate onto during a session. Maybe a real G&T to kickstart then move onto these?
In NZ beer wise Croucher make an excellent IPA at just over 2%. Not zero alcohol but that is at a level that your body can keep up with processing it. Even drinking something like Emerson's Bookbinder without chugging it back won't get you pissed (3.8%) especially if eating as well.
The craft beer scene in Europe is moving away from big beers that you can only drink a couple of. They want to sell more volume and customers want to drink more of it without getting drunk. Lots of experimentation is going on to keep flavours without the esters.
If you start with a cheap/shite beer and remove the booze you remove the only backbone it had. May as well drink water. -
Am I remembering this wrong but did you used to walk into a bottle shop and fill up your own 2l flagon of beer, cant recall seeing that here in Oz. Got stopped by the cops once walking down the street carrying two of them. Think I was 16 and drinking age was 20.
I remember my father bringing flagons home from the local.
So this prompted me to remember that my very first ever job was washing the flagons, then filling them - Lion Brown as well as Lion Red and stacking them in the chiller.
Five flagons to an ABC crate. Great fun. Big long bath thing Line a dozen dirty bottles over a pipe that squirted a pathetic amount of tepid water into them, put them on the bottle brush attachment, keeping your hands well clear if you didn't want really nasty friction burns drain them, fill them, hit the rubber seal on with a mallet, screw the top on.
It was great fun. From memory I'd get a buck for about 3 hrs work which was the cost of a movie ticket with an ice cream at intermission.Looking back my brother and I probably saved the old man half an FTE / week from about age 10 what with stacking crates of empties, doing stock takes, filling shelves, spending hours ringing up the most common cost on the till "to get the assessment right". I'd pretty much forgotten all that. I guess living in a main street with no other kids around or areas to play except the car park it was just what we did. Also made up for never having to make a bed or do any household chores, have restaurant meals (such as they were) three times a day and a kitchen to make us whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted.
Lots of lonely, young female staff too who would dote on you. Damn my parents for splitting up just as that was getting interesting....
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@MajorRage reckon I've gone the other way - I certainly go out less, but my wine consumption at home is higher than ever!
Same here, tend to go out a hell of a lot less but drink a lot more at home.
That has had one rather unexpected drawback. Now being somewhat out of practice, I've found that the last couple of work events, I've ended up shitfaced!
Rather than drinking at a leisurely pace at home, work events tend to get a bit hyper, must be the free booze and the fact that many husbands just want to get as much in as possible before heading home (or so I've been told).
I've had some of the worst hangovers I've ever had in the past decade or two after those work events.
I'm definitely having to work on a better strategy to end up in better shape at the end of the night at a work function.
Problem is, I really enjoy these social drinking situations and TBH, I struggle with impulse control when anyone asks if I want another beer, wine, etc. I often end up double parked and/or two handed drinking which isn't good.
Then, as my wife says, I'm always one of the last ones left standing at the end of the night. My hungover comeback the next day that "I'm not always standing" doesn't go over well.
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@taniwharugby said in Aging:
@MajorRage said in Aging:
Heineken double zeros
they must be different to the Heineken low alcohol or zero alcohol shite we get here, which is some of the worst 'beer' I have tasted.
I bought some of this recently to drink at a poker evening and it is very bland. Served its purpose though as I had to drive home.
Moretti Zero would be choice of the Euro 0% beers.
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Had some low alcohol beer a few months back. Was pleasantly surprised how good it tasted compared to the vile, sweet low strength stuff I tried years ago.
Must try that gin you mentioned this Christmas. We go thru gallons of the stuff and an option of a lighter varierty will go down well.
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@taniwharugby said in Aging:
@RoninWC I have my work Xmas function tomorrow night, but I have also agreed to help my almost 80 year old neighbour sand the bottom of his yacht on Sunday as it is out of the water...so I should take it easy...
Don't bother taking it easy - just think of it as penance. If it's going to be bad, it might as well be awful. The real problem is twofold:
- A marked inability to really back up. Two huge nights in a row and I'm recovering for a week.
- A complete inability to go for a run the next morning and sweat through it. Now it's water, berocca, coffee, dip in the pool, B&E, coffee, KFC. Except the for cold water shock treatment and KFC excursion, it's all laying on the couch.
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@JC Google tells me I'm not the only one suffering nomad-nostalgia!
forgot about these Nomads but I was referring to these
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Gin is basically a crock of herbal shit that gets none of it's flavour from alcohol, so a non alcoholic version should be very similar. Beer not so much. There are some less shit than others and it's better than drinking coke.
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@MajorRage said in Aging:
All jokes aside the biggest thing I note about me with getting older is boozing.
My desire just drops and drops. I still love a beer, but a pint or two is generally enough for me these days. I just can’t be bothered with the shit sleep, hangover, hangxiety and The General lousy feelings and demeanor the next day.
A mate got me going on Heineken double zeros and I’m turning for them in a big way. They really do allow you to have a session with your buddies, in a way that water, coke and line Soda don’t.
oh, so you are transitioning as you age?
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i fucking love beer.
I don't go out much, i drink at home. But i have boozy neighbours, so that's real easy. Afternoon stubbies all weekend. It's fucking grand.
And now that it's hot, afternoon stubbies in the pool, watching the cricket on teh TV. Now this is living.
And yeah, i have put away a shit ton of red wine this year as well.
I am trying very hard not to drink during the week. But that is proving exceedingly difficult.
What has changed is, on the odd occasion i do go out, i don't stay out late. I am basically Cinderella.