Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby ha! Welcome to the world. How many rules/laws do we have as some folks can't manage their shit 😁
I was in a meeting with HR recently and said something to the effect of most corporate policies exist because someone breached them before they were written down - there was a lot of nodding of heads at that.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We had a known potential date for lockdown to end, and all businesses should have been working towards that.
FIFY
It was pretty clearly stated all along that L4 was for an initial period to be re-assessed toward the end to decide what and how to do after that.
There was never a stated end that was then extended.
Many people I know expected that any reduction would probably make sense to happen after the long weekend, especially after seeing how some people reacted over Easter.
I think when the pros and cons of changing to L3 Tonight rather than last week were added up the former won out.Sure, but, as a business owner, surely you'd be negligent if you weren't working towards bring ready for the earliest possible date. You can't be sitting there waiting for the announcement a few days out.
Imagine you still had your restaurant. You would have been using lockout to work out plans for delivery (if viable), speaking to key staff, contacting key supply chain etc - you wouldn't be sitting still waiting for Cindy to give you the green light right?
That's simplistic in my view. The situation is fluid in terms of what is and isn't ok. It's easy to say that businesses should be ready to go, but they have staff to deal with and suppliers and possibly specific rules to follow.
Some businesses won't care that much and will be so desperate to open that they ll open with or without thinking it through. There is potential for additional clusters to open up because a business/staff don't know or care about what they're doing. The people affected are not necessarily the business or staff themselves.
A bit of extra time for the guidelines and rules to be clear is not a bad thing. Hell, if the courts didn't know what they were doing until Friday, how can a small business?
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See Jucy Rentals had about 100 cars stolen from thier depot over the weekend.
That is a large scale co-ordinated theft for a bunch of Suzuki Swift's and Mazda 3s...
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
See Jucy Rentals had about 100 cars stolen from thier depot over the weekend.
That is a large scale co-ordinated theft for a bunch of Suzuki Swift's and Mazda 3s...
if they are painted like they are here, how in the fuck do you hide them?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
See Jucy Rentals had about 100 cars stolen from thier depot over the weekend.
That is a large scale co-ordinated theft for a bunch of Suzuki Swift's and Mazda 3s...
if they are painted like they are here, how in the fuck do you hide them?
Nah these ones aren’t painted like typical jucy cars.
Crazy thing is they all had their keys left inside them.Assume all involved watched a particular Nick Cage film before commencing the heist
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@mariner4life nah I dont think all the cars are painted the green/purple like the campers/vans
Apparently multiple arrests and about a dozen cars located some damaged.
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@Bones I was trying to figure out how long it'd take them to shift 60 bloody cars! Gotta be an inside job - or possibly gangs? you'd also think the cars would have hidden gps or something as well. Probably better off nicking one or two and taking the stereos and gas from the rest... or take all the wheels or some shit.
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@Paekakboyz oh it's only 60 now? That's pretty messed up still. Where do you hide that many cars!
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bones I suspect we aren't dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here lol. Just read that they've found 35 so far. Hmm do you think they got car-ried away?
Oh dear....😬
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bones I suspect we aren't dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here lol. Just read that they've found 35 so far. Hmm do you think they got car-ried away?
No.
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@Bones I suspect @Paekakboyz was a bit swift on his dad jokes...
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bones I suspect @Paekakboyz was a bit swift on his dad jokes...
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@taniwharugby oh car, car, very punny
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We had a known potential date for lockdown to end, and all businesses should have been working towards that.
FIFY
It was pretty clearly stated all along that L4 was for an initial period to be re-assessed toward the end to decide what and how to do after that.
There was never a stated end that was then extended.
Many people I know expected that any reduction would probably make sense to happen after the long weekend, especially after seeing how some people reacted over Easter.
I think when the pros and cons of changing to L3 Tonight rather than last week were added up the former won out.Sure, but, as a business owner, surely you'd be negligent if you weren't working towards bring ready for the earliest possible date. You can't be sitting there waiting for the announcement a few days out.
Imagine you still had your restaurant. You would have been using lockout to work out plans for delivery (if viable), speaking to key staff, contacting key supply chain etc - you wouldn't be sitting still waiting for Cindy to give you the green light right?
I would have been planning for different scenarios for sure. But the fact that I would have been living 10kms away from the business which had been closed up for weeks would also have meant that we would have needed a couple of days minimum to be able to clean and prepare for any opening. In the example of a food business you run on a hell of a lot of prepped items that are continuously rotated. Starting after a break takes a while. It isn’t anywhere near as simple as having some goods arrive at the back door and giving the tables a wipe.
I also imagine that suppliers would also need to push the buttons to start gearing up to even get those supplies around.
A weeks notice to all parties is about right.(Not saying that’s the same for all businesses but you asked for my example)
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Crucial I don't get it....don't you just open later if that's the case?
Yeah, but the question was about about not needing much lead in time because you would be planned up and ready to move at short notice.
I was asked what situation I would have been In and answered.
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Crucial I don't get it....don't you just open later if that's the case?
Yeah, but the question was about about not needing much lead in time because you would be planned up and ready to move at short notice.
I was asked what situation I would have been In and answered.
It was a useful response, and thanks for it. Of course, it was entirely personal to you, nothing else you could have provided.
But I still think my general point remains, that you would have done everything in your power to be able and ready to hit the button and get to whatever level of ops was possible as soon as you could. I didn't say 2 or 4 or 6 days was the right number, just that every business ought to try and shrink that number as much as possible.
For some it might be easier than others - say a local butcher with frozen stock or local farm supply to hand, or a cafe that deals mostly in coffee and simple food that doesn't need lots of staff or a complex supply chain.
I simply don't understand why these businesses should be disadvantaged over others.
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