Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@voodoo what a steaming pile of manure.
Pushing the economy off a cliff isn't reporting it's an opinion. No problem with it as an op ed but its pretending to be a balanced piece of reporting.
The govt's forecasts are all wrong because these other people say so. Lets get a quote from Roger Douglas and throw in every negative stat we can possibly conjure up.
Per capita going into the pandemic NZ and Australia had pretty much the same number of ICU beds.
NZ is approaching normality now - Australia sometime in July, August, September....
Talking about borrowing and then talking up Japan who have the highest debt to GDP in the world is just lazy.
Don't get me wrong there's kernel of truth in everything written but its so skewed as to be pretty much bog paper IMO.
Reads like its written by an embittered right winger - "smashing civil liberties" " get the left attention"
At least it proves NZ isn't alone in having a pathetic fourth estate
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I'm bemused that people still proclaim "New Zealand police can now enter people's homes without a warrant" like it's a new thing: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2012/0024/latest/whole.html#DLM2136636
Roger Douglas is always worth listening to, but then I remember his track record on unemployment too.
As for labour market productivity, unfortunately the stats cited by Michael Reddell are nothing new. I remember first encountering them in 2006, and among the data was cited a Cabinet paper from 1978 lamenting exactly the same thing. The 1978 crew didn't solve it, and neither did we...
On the borrowing, most rhetoric from the National party seems to be that they have a better plan. But they don't seem to say much about not borrowing themselves. Both major parties seem to be more Keynesian than austerity focused.
I started writing this, the phone rang, and then I see @dogmeat has done a better critique
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo what a steaming pile of manure.
Pushing the economy off a cliff isn't reporting it's an opinion. No problem with it as an op ed but its pretending to be a balanced piece of reporting.
The govt's forecasts are all wrong because these other people say so. Lets get a quote from Roger Douglas and throw in every negative stat we can possibly conjure up.
Per capita going into the pandemic NZ and Australia had pretty much the same number of ICU beds.
NZ is approaching normality now - Australia sometime in July, August, September....
Talking about borrowing and then talking up Japan who have the highest debt to GDP in the world is just lazy.
Don't get me wrong there's kernel of truth in everything written but its so skewed as to be pretty much bog paper IMO.
Reads like its written by an embittered right winger - "smashing civil liberties" " get the left attention"
At least it proves NZ isn't alone in having a pathetic fourth estate
Contradicts itself massively.
Scoffs at the 4 day week idea floated without understanding that it meant 'same productivity over less time' the says that Labour has no ideas except throwing money at problems.
How about getting companies thinking about 4 day weeks if possible? Costs the govt nothing but creates more opportunity for travel to regions and consequent spreading of spend, in turn creating jobs in places under pressure.
It may only be one small idea, but an exaple that disproves hi assertion. -
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
In one year, New Zealand has blown 30 years of hard-fought Âfiscal rectitude. Its public debt will explode from the equivalent of 19 per cent of gross domestic product last year to 54 per cent by 2022, on the government’s own figures.
This is just a silly comment, unless you're pretending that Covid-19 doesn't exist.
I just read some of the comments on the Australian ... some of them are comedy gold. They make this place seem like a left wing hang out in comparison.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Nepia yeah the Australian has gone massively right wing in its readership and to a lesser extent (but still noticeably) the writing
About as much as The AGE and SMH went left.
The Australian has PvO and that raving loon Phillip Adams.
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I wouldn't give Adam Creighton's writing much critical thought. He's an ideologue who has campaigned vigorously that lockdowns are a bad idea, and now spends his days furiously trawling the internet to find 'experts' who support his view.
Unlike the majority of economic writers, he at least knows what he's talking about:
He started his career at the Reserve Bank of Australia and the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority. He holds a Bachelor of Economics with First Class Honours from the University of New South Wales, and Master of Philosophy in Economics from Balliol College, Oxford,
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Jeez, I didn't write the thing! Just thought some of you might like to see what the australian press is saying. For the record, Creighton is always negative IMO, and I would certainly class him as an opinion writer rather than a reporter.
I don't think anyone was taking a shot at you - more the garbage in the piece itself (and the hilarious comments section from me).
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@barbarian said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I wouldn't give Adam Creighton's writing much critical thought. He's an ideologue who has campaigned vigorously that lockdowns are a bad idea, and now spends his days furiously trawling the internet to find 'experts' who support his view.
Unlike the majority of economic writers, he at least knows what he's talking about:
He started his career at the Reserve Bank of Australia and the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority. He holds a Bachelor of Economics with First Class Honours from the University of New South Wales, and Master of Philosophy in Economics from Balliol College, Oxford,
You would have thought that after all that study he had learned the value of proper research instead of firing half cocked
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@Hooroo I'm guessing that demand has dropped off for them, with reduced respiratory infections, fewer arrivals, and fewer hospital workers in contact with patients. However, it would be good to continue random testing and antibody testing, to get good data and stay on top.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Tim see I would have just thought along the same lines as @Hooroo about lower testing numbers, but what you say makes perfect sense.
Yeah I see more pressure being mounted about L1 too.
Is L1 'normal' or is it announced as 'normal' without a Level indicator (ie L zero)
L1 is one level from normal
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@Tim Bloomfield talked about this last week and the need for increased sentinel testing. Every DHB was supposed to put a plan for this in place. He also spoke to increased testing of the most at risk - international air crew, people at the border and health workers - even if it meant they al got tested, repeatedly.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Is L1 'normal' or is it announced as 'normal' without a Level indicator (ie L zero)
I think it's normal enough to have crowds at the rugby again! Now that IS normal Can't wait to stop talking about BBQ and politics on here, and get back to the game they play in heaven.